Day Two of #ghostoberbystump put together by the amazing cookie_the_plushia ( aka. stump) over on Instagram.
Prompt: "monster".
I'll be honest I was kinda stuck on this one... So this is what I ended up doing. IDK if Primo, or the Ghoul he's summoning, counts as the monster! It gave me an excuse to draw my second favourite Papa at least!
And yes you can see on the top left of the second image where I ended up having a fight with my dying pen... I need to order a new set
Hello! Ghost lore question: How old are the papas? Copia's birth year can be placed because of the date in the Kiss The Go-Goat chapter but what about the others? Any thoughts about the brothers' age differences?
made a post about this a while ago, but i'm happy to share again!
Papa Nihil - in Rite Here Rite Now, he tells Cardi “I am almost 80 years old and I’m dead.” it's not clear if he means that he would almost be 80 years old if he were still alive, or if he means that he was almost 80 years old at the time he died, but it kind of gives us a range to work with. he'd have been born in the 1940s.
in my personal headcanon, i place Nihil at the very oldest end of that range, being born in 1940. this is assuming he was talking about his age at death, and assuming he was 79 years old when he died on March 3rd, 2020.
Cardi - we know from Kiss The Go-Goat and RHRN that Sister got pregnant in the later half of 1969, so Cardi and his twin were born in early 1970.
i think Nihil was 29 years old at the time.
Terzo and Secondo - it was stated in several Meliora Era interviews, The Summoning, and Metal Myths that Terzo is only 3 months younger than Secondo. so they’re basically the same age. an interview from 2013 said Secondo was around 50 years old in 2013, and this seems reasonable. so he and Terzo would’ve been born around 1963, give or take a few years.
in my personal headcanon, Secondo and Terzo are about 6 years older than Cardi. i place Secondo being born in November 1963 and Terzo being born in February 1964, when Nihil was 23 years old.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE TRANSFORMATION FROM PAPA EMERITUS, WHO IS CREDITED ON OPUS, TO PAPA II?
NAMELESS GHOUL: Papa I had sat his years and it was time for the succession. The major difference between the two dudes is probably the age: Papa I was in his 80s whereas Papa II is around 50. A little more mojo.
Revolver (May 2013)
Primo - unfortunately, all the info we have on Primo's age is outdated. the above quote says Primo was in his 80s when he was the frontman of Ghost, but that’s not possible since his dad wasn’t even that old. (and yes, Primo is Nihil’s son.) with the new information about Nihil’s age, it seems Primo's age has kinda been silently retconned and we’re just supposed to assume Primo was actually younger than previously thought.
personally, i place Primo as 6 years older than Secondo and Terzo, born in 1958 when Nihil was 17-18 years old. so to me, Secondo and Terzo are right in the middle of Primo and Cardi+twin.
This is just a silly little what-if scenario that I’ll see in my dreams only. I really enjoyed the Ghovie. That’s some core memory shit right there. I had an absolute blast and I’m so happy for Tobias. 🖤🥺
had some fun drawing more stylized versions of my favorite satanic old men. as one does.
(terzo came back wrong, secondo needs to be better about removing his glittery eye makeup, copia is judging you in a sexy way, and primo has never done anything wrong in his life ever.)
Finally started working on the Papas!!! Got a Cardi version and a Popia version, so pick your poison!!!
The final render will come with a timelapse so get excited!!!