#please tumblr tags don't put this in the gen fh tag

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I like FH (though I prefer the toxic variety) but I just have to say, Scott letting Jimmy kill him in Limited Life is not some grand gesture of affection. He'd refused Jimmy earlier, and only agreed to give Jimmy time after he was under 30 minutes. In the same episode he gifted Jimmy 30 minutes, he also took an hour off of Jimmy's life by killing him. (Honestly, neither benefited; they both ended up with a net loss of 30 minutes from their killing/being killed by each other that ep.)

Even before I discovered toxic FH fandom, I was super iffy about all the FH fanfics I found, despite liking the ship, because they didn't feel like Scott and Jimmy, and stuff like this is why! Scott isn't some grand martyr who selflessly sacrifices everything for Jimmy's sake. He teases Jimmy about being a toy ("But I want to play with you, Jimmy") and makes the threat of an arrest into something flirty ("handcuffs? =D"), tells Jimmy he's a "snack" when he's a vampire, says only he's allowed to be mean to Jimmy, etc. That's the dynamic I find appealing - Scott flirting with Jimmy and Jimmy getting flustered and not knowing what to do with it. But that's not the dynamic that exists in, like, 90% of fanworks about them.

It feels like to me that the fandom has seized on the dynamic of super-competent person falling in love with borderline-incompetent person, and just ... stripped most other traits away from the characters. Like, where is Jimmy struggling to be skilled, to be acknowledged, to be respected? Who is this person who has replaced him, who is basically a doormat for everyone, who has accepted his role in the universe of being cursed with misfortune? Where is Scott loving social games, having fun teasing people, and generally being fun? This is the guy who had a blast being an evil vampire in AfterLife, who usurped a cult in X-Life, and who built a black market in Empires season 2.

Like, I know some people seem to legit have problems with toxic FH, but I feel like these posts that praise a dynamic that FH never had are just as damaging to the ship. It makes FH into something that, in fandom/fictional terms, I find worse than toxic - it makes them boring.

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screw it. give me your ten fanfic teams I’ll do it

Hiiii brave soldier in my inbox hiiiiiiii (also if you do end up posting whatever, please don't mention me by name lmao although I feel like some people will figure it out anyway lol)

I think SBI / Purple4 HAS to be top place. Like there's basically no contention. They changed the world. If you sort the MCC tag by kudos, the first page is basically SBI found family with some hermit Tommy / watcher Grian.

[Puts on my hermit bias lenses] (Everything other than the above is hermit / hermit adjacent I know nothing about anything else) Blue9 is second place to me (I'm biased) (they have a dedicated Ao3 tag) (there are 14 fics). Mint19 also deserves high honours because it is SOOOOO Tumblr fandom influenced like we seriously put them in maid dresses?? It became part of Renchanting lore?? Very very sexy??? Hmm????

People have been asking for Boatem team so uhh Grian Scar Impulse Pearl I guess (SORRY MUMBO). Lime Life winners. Grian's various Pride teams. I think Scott Tango Jimmy (someone) would also drive the Ranchers / FH people crazy. [Digging around dynamics with clout on twt] and uhhhh Scar Grian Joel Jimmy. Bad boys plus desert duo I think people are gonna eat it up right. Right. Is that how clout works

You know what, the hermit bias is too much. I'll pull up the stats from the MCC tag on Ao3 and. Oh. Um. [Hermit bias lenses clatter to the ground]

No Romantic Relationship(s) (64) Wilbur Soot & Technoblade & TommyInnit & Phil Watson | Philza (50) Wilbur Soot & TommyInnit (45) Clay | Dream/GeorgeNotFound (Video Blogging RPF) (42) Toby Smith | Tubbo & TommyInnit (35) Clay | Dream & GeorgeNotFound & Sapnap (Video Blogging RPF) (26) Technoblade & Phil Watson | Philza (26) Clay | Dream & Sapnap (Video Blogging RPF) (23) Ranboo & Toby Smith | Tubbo (20) Technoblade & TommyInnit (Video Blogging RPF) (19)

.... If you want stats they're here I guess. Also I'm pretty sure there was at least one Wilbur/Ace Race fic which is soooo funny to me.

Lime14 has three fics (all by me). Pink9 has six fics. I pioneered the Lime11, Purple13, and Mint19 tags (they each have one fic). Shoutout to the tag wranglers and I'm sorry I should've tagged them better 😭 aLSO I just realised they have tags for events?? Like there's 15 fics in the MCC17 tag?? Do I have to tag back everything lmao

Y'know what, regardless of cast it's actually cute that there are so many Gen fics and fics with No Romantic Relationships. We all love that found family friendship shit. And I'm sorry that this wasn't very helpful because I'm throwing spaghetti to the wall and hoping it sticks haha