#please for fucks sake. What's it going to take? Someone to unalive themselves? Is that when Moon Guard wakes the fuck up.
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astrofiree · 2 months ago
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Somethings Need to Change
I wasn't going to get my hands involved in this. I initially skilled through harkre's post yesterday and thought nothing of it. Until someone brought it to my attention because there was fighting in the comments. Now while I would like to slug it out in the replies. However...that gets messy. So instead I'm going to put everyone's replies into a reblog and credit them. Cause that's what you're supposed to do when there's drama on tumblr. Make it easier on people to read and know what the fuck is going on. Which will be below the cut.
@dutifullylamps: Summary: A bunch of things that hurt my feelings and I didn’t like so now I’m trying to cause other people to not like this person because I still have a middle school mentality and I’m bitter.
So for those who aren't aware, Harkre's whole post was about how he was signaled out and believed to be a godmodder. I've gone through similar things myself all because for whatever stupid reason people do not know how to communicate on WoW when it comes to rp. Despite it being a major unspoken rule in roleplay in general. Something that's followed on forums, on tumblr, and other mediums. Why it's not enforced on WoW is stupid.
Now when you bring it up, you're treated like shit who have never gotten out of that Mean Girl high school mentality like dutifullylamps has demonstrated. So here let me be helpful and show at least some guides to roleplay since the community seems to neglect that part. These will emphasize on communication.
I would like to point out that ironically one of the ways we learn how to communicate effectively is by pretending we're doing a role and we can talk out what we're going to do, which is different from rp. So why rpers can't communicate is kind of ironic when you think about it in adult type scenarios. Something I was skimming over trying to find the sites above.
Except people will try to say "but it ruins the story. It makes it seem too ooc." My brother in christ you do not work for Blizzard. Who the fuck cares? I don't want you to hit my character without my permission. Though to argue I feel bad for Harkre cause Residiuum events are always clusterfucks. I try not to get involved because they are. Usually someone pre-determines what my character is doing. Sometimes people whisper me what I want to do when I'm the middle of writing my response.
Another thing I don't get with Moon Guard is the need for someone coming forward with clear issues with someone else. The communication line has been dropped or there is none because again...for whatever fucking reason, people on Moon Guard or well....WoW in general never learned how to properly communicate or even roleplay. Which is honestly mind boggling to me as someone who has rped on forums, and tumblr for many many years. I learned how to roleplay. I learned how to communicate. I come to Moon Guard and what I knew about rp was eviscerated. But anyway the thing that ultimately annoys me aside from the lack of proper communication is that people will attack the clear victim, gang up on them, and then support the abuser. And it's always the enablers of narcissists. Why is that?
Then again I that's also a tumblr issue as well. It's happened in other fandoms on tumblr so I shouldn't be surprised. Our reaction shouldn't be "oh I'm sorry that happened." We should be angrier about it and demand more action. We are all in a community and it's up to us to make this community better. One where victims are properly heard and the narcissists gets kicked out and running for the hills and not the other way around.
@onetimeblog: Instead of sending every single residuum member screenshots and claiming how I "stole" your idea for a minecraft server (really?) and thrashing and kicking and just making yourself look even worse?
And now for the moment we've been waiting for. I'm going to break this section by section because oddly, Niklos decided to put this in the replies one at a time and not a reblog. But even then I'd still break it down.
Anyway, the thing is Harkre probably couldn't hold it in any longer because he kept seeing you get away with shit constantly. Usually what happens when you're abused by a narcissist so long. You hold it in, think you're the problem. You try to do things one way, which is the right way. However, that doesn't work. And trying to ignore the problem doesn't work.
You constantly see your abuser handling things normally. While you have to duck out of places because they somehow manipulated everyone around you to make it seem like you're the problem. I wonder if this sounds familiar Niklos cause it's something that you have been doing for years. There's evidence of it. You can only sweet talk your way out of a paper bag for so long. And DARVO only goes for so long. After awhile you finally have the courage to speak up about it.
Problem is you got caught again. Though this time you don't get to talk your way out of it.
When you know damn well Agonyn doesn't listen to anyone. He kicks who he pleases and nobody can say persuade him to, or not to, otherwise. You were kicked out of Midnight Repose because according to THEM, you ran into their voice chat and started yelling loudly and when told to stop, you didn't. I know now, the one that I thought was your friend, was actually you on a second account. And I also know that you have been the one -
I'm going to point out I don't know what point leads to where since reading through the replies is a pain in the ass. So forgive me if this looks wonky.
I honestly doubt that. I seem to remember Brady saying that he was blacklisted from every other guild because of your shit. Honestly another deflection. "Oh they can do what they want." That and the "you have no friends, it's just on another account." Is some serious bullshit. You don't know anything. You're just trying to make someone be your scapegoat.
Find some new material. You suck at this.
when I was AFKing in the cemetery and I got your PM bomb and a link out of nowhere about Tyragonfal and I had to pan my camera around to see Tyragonfal walk by, so far away I couldn't even cast on her. WTF? And now I know - you were stealthing after her, on your lv20 trial, while on your paid account you were PMing everyone she walked by as far as your camera can see, in the same way you did to me for weeks. To a point where you pissed enough randoms off you got -
Tyragonfal doesn't have many people who like her. For all you know it could have been some random that has the same information.
This information that your buddy is a notorious sex pest. Yeah. I too have the dark knowledge of knowing that and I received it from someone else. I can't remember who linked me it. I know for a fact it wasn't Harkre. But Tyragonfal has other people that don't like her and would try to track her down and do the one thing most trials do in Stormwind...and no it's not look for erp.
Inform the public that there is a piece of crap in our midst and maybe they will stop playing the game. But sure let's turn Harkre into the scapegoat cause he's the ONLY person outside of Brady to actually say something against you.
So like… don't blame me. Nobody pushed you out, you pushed yourself out. The people reporting to Agonyn? Not me - it's all the people that fought your toon while your wore the Residuum tag only to see you log out after hours of emote combat - of which I wasn't even involved in. I just was told. And when a player told you that they don't want to RP with you anymore? You told him "You are involved whether you like it or not." And now you are hyper fixating on me.
Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. You're one of the principal people organizing the Residuum events and you're always the stare of every single show. There is NEVER a Residuum event where you're not there. Either as the main star or the supporting actor. Never the extra.
Residuum has to do things exactly as you planned it. For example after the week long attack you had Residuum people at the funeral vigil thing as candles. I thought it was weird when a guildie at the time had to take part in it. Even weirder that they were there again as floating candles. I thought nothing of it.
But it's plainly obvious that you control everything. Much like how you control the Cathedral. Ever thought it's odd on how there's no one else that does their own thing in the Cathedral. Everyone has to tow your line. Gee....I wonder why that is? Maybe because you're a control freak.
I wouldn't put it past you to whisper to Agonyn and tell him to kick Harkre or even complain. You did it with Brady. You did it with the Divine Inquisition. That's your thing and even Irwin said it best. You act as thought the Cathedral is yours. Except it's not yours. It never was.
reported and suspended. So like.. harkre? Find a better hobby at this point. Everything you claim, I have receipts on. And now you just openly outed yourself as the level 1 troll that's been harassing me on two accounts - and I know you have a third account you are happily RPing on as well. Because you just don't hide yourself that well. Why don't you focus on that third, unblemished, untouched character and just enjoy RP -
Oh, bullshit. You have jackshit. You have ZERO receipts. If you did you would have posted them already. That's the thing with narcissists like yourself, Niklos, you talk a lot of hot fucking air. A lot. You bullshit more than a politician. But when it comes down to it, you won't produce shit.
And the best part of it is....there's evidence of you constantly bullshitting.
Even your so called post about Brady's accusations, you came up with no screenshots. No fucking evidence. Give it up, Niklos. You should be the one who should play a different game. You should be the one making a new unblemished character. Maybe start anew on Wyrmrest. You'd be great at it. Best part about it is...
There's no one there that you can abuse. Hell you can move your whole guild there.
Let This Be a Message To ALL Community Leaders:
Your role in a community is to not treat everyone like they're your Barbie.
Your role is to facilitate roleplay in a concise manner that makes it fun for everyone. It is not meant for narcissists.
If you cannot fulfill this role, then maybe it's High fucking time for you to step the fuck down.
I'm sick and fucking tired of narcissists getting away with shit. Getting away with treating people like shit for simply saying no. For standing up for themselves after being doormats.
Moon Guard needs to fucking change and for the better.
Edit: Thanks to @certifiedooc for pulling up the related posts. I added it for clarity.
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thecobraghost · 2 years ago
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I know you were being sarcastic but you should actually kill yourself :) would probably make a lot of people's lives better!
Wow. Just fucking wow.
The fact you don’t even have the fucking guts to say that publicly to me and you are so much of a coward to say it anonymously that I actually laughed.
So I dare you to stop being anonymous and say that to me. Like seriously what are you receiving from saying that shit to people. Do you get off on it? Do you get a high from it? Do you think you’re all tough and clever for telling someone to k*ll themselves but can’t let other know who you are?
I mean you’re probably right, I would make a few lives better if I did unalive myself but just for you baby cakes I’m not!
But on a serious note, if I told any of you Temper Tantrum Toddlers to go k*ll yourself, you’ll all go cry wolf and say I’m either bullying you or it’s a hate crime towards you.
Like I’ve said on a previous post it’s a good job I’m not in a dark headspace and can take this as a joke and with humour for my own sake otherwise a few years back I would’ve and have possibly succeeded after my past failed attempts.
For any of my fellow wizards who were once like me, or are in that headspeace.
Suicide Hotline please call 116 123 or text SHOUT to 85258
Or please contact a trusted person/professional and receive the correct care as quickly as you can. Remember sometimes it takes baby steps to get help and that’s okay.
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thedreadvampy · 3 years ago
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indulging my bad habit of watching YouTube drama videos (I am not proud) but like
what the fuck
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[ID: cropped screenshots of two sets of YouTube subtitles reading "...mental illness and self un-aliving. So if that makes you uncomfortable, um, then don't watch. But also I do censor words and stuff so it's ok. But..."]
this is like. Making explicit something I've felt for a long time is how people think this works? 'I'm going to talk about upsetting things but I censor words and stuff so it's ok.'
like that the thing that makes people uncomfortable are the WORDS "suicide" or "rape" or "mental illness" not the IDEAS. like 'you can't talk about rape because that might trigger someone but you can say "I hope you get r*ped" bc you bleeped out the Bad Word'
the point of censoring words like suicide or rape isn't SOCIAL it's ALGORITHMIC. unbleeped or uncensored versions of "bad words" may get your content flagged or delisted and then people won't see it. but there's this like GROWING belief that bleeping out words describing potentially distressing ideas is for the sake of the viewer, which it just. it isn't. and it really fucks me up that people think talking about 'nonconsensual sex by force' wouldn't upset someone who WOULD be upset by 'rape'.
like I've talked before about how I think censoring words about Bad Things has a net negative result like. words like rape or death or suicide INTRINSICALLY DESCRIBE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE UPSETTING and it's a hard fight to keep the severity of those ideas in sight without finding mealy mouthed cutesy ways to talk around them. but I do get that on platforms like TikTok there's an algorithmic reason to do that. but it's not so it's Ok And Not Triggering to talk about it. It just IS going to be triggering for some people to talk about trauma and mental illness and that's not something you can avoid by saying 'self un-alive' instead of 'suicide'
but also this ties into a thing that's been increasingly annoying over the last 5-10 years imo like. if you use a word you're uncomfortable saying you can just. not say that word. or not talk about a topic you think is going to be harmful. but instead ppl just say whatever the fuck and then bleep it out and say BUT IT'S CENSORED IT'S FINE
like censoring words is for REPORTING OTHER PEOPLE'S SPEECH like if you said "Jeffree Starr uses the n-word a bunch [bleeped out clip of him shouting "you fucking ********"]" that would make sense to me. like you don't want to say that word but you do need to gesture to it to get across what you're trying to report.
but for years now people will say stuff like "why don't you go k*ll yourself you r-word sl*t" and it's like. say it or don't. but you chose to say it knowing those were harmful words so why would you say it to hurt but censor the words YOU CHOOSE TO USE???
like honestly (and this is why I am ashamed of my drama YouTube habit) there are SO MANY VIDEOS where people will fastidiously cut out or self-censor any Bad Triggering Words and then say some shit like "well she said it was r-word but I think she's lying because would a real SA victim do XYZ like honestly I don't think anyone should unalive themselves please don't ****bait anyone but I think it's disgusting that she'd even call that r-word just because she was dr*nk and passed out and couldn't consent to Adult Time"
like it doesn't make it ok! You haven't magically got off the hook for talking about rape and sexual assault and suicide just bc you didn't USE THOSE WORDS. It's good to talk about these things (not in the way that I showed above but in general we SHOULD make those experiences visible) but like. It IS going to be potentially upsetting and YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
Talking about suicide and talking about Making Yourself Unalive. Discussing rape apologist and discussing **** apologism. Calling someone a fucking dyke and calling someone an effing d-slur. are. the same thing. you have solved nothing except your openness to algorithmic deplatforming.
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