#overlap with these women entirley or it's passive in that they've been told and don't care... still fucking misogyny though | Explore Tumblr posts and blogs

fiapple · 2 years ago

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do i like jason todd? yes, i think about him far too often.

do i think the section of his fan-base who posit storylines, narrative positioning, & other writing choices for him that either aren't present or are deeply mismanaged/inconsistent in-text, & which have already been canonically given to comic-women (while often also being better written) should at least try branching the scope of their reading out a bit? oh, jesus fucking christ, absolutley.

#like i don't think for *all* the people doing it that it's intentional transference like a) a lot of it is influenced by fanon people who #either do not read comics or only read from new52 on unless they HAVE to & b) they would have to actually care enough about the #women-characters in question to know details about them beyond what is discussed HEAVILY in fan-spaces... and i don't think many do tbh #like i think for at least a good portion of those who exemplify this behaviour it is either like incidental & they just are unaware of the #overlap with these women entirley or it's passive in that they've been told and don't care... still fucking misogyny though #& like there are for sure some people who have read the comics and do it intentionally dgmw like you can tell #and a lot of people tend to respond to criticisms like this by saying “oh well you need to accept characters are going to have overlap”#and like i do. jason does have overlap with quite a few female characters.#but the way that overlap is discussed is- more often than not- more similar to one of the women's *actual canon material* than it is jason'#& i'm not even against wanting to see that overlap explored! but often with jason this overlap is very loose (poor background for ex)#based on an implication (the potential overlap with mia) or based on something that is largely mismanaged in the actual text in a way that #it isn't with the woman it overlaps with (morality)#and taking that into account what's basically being expressed is that you find all these bits & pieces interesting and want to see them #more thouroughly explored... but when that's actually happened with a woman you don't care.#and like again i get wanting to see things in the context of a specific character & that i'm speaking very generally here #but you can't claim that there is an abscene of something in the text just because it isn't on a certain character #and when you ignore the prescence of whatever overlap is in question just because it's on a woman... thats misogyny hun.#and like i said it's not even an “i dont think you actually like jason” thing #i think it's a “you are taking crumbs rather than a whole loaf of bread simply because the crumbs come from a man” thing #and fans of those women (shout out to mia fans you lot seem to be getting a lot of this lately <3) are allowed to feel angry about it #also this isn't a jason exclusive issue either. it happens with every batboy and it makes me want to tear out my eyelashes.#radfems dni #terfs dni #fandom misogyny #dc #helena bertinelli #mia dearden #stephanie brown #jason todd #selina kyle

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