#outer moka's father

[a-little-bit-insecure]

I will forever be angry at how thoroughly this dude got screwed over.

This poor, poor guy raised the Outer Moka as his own. Dealing with her anger, her breakdowns, coaching her through the most difficult parts of her life.

He was, for all intents and purposes, her father. The man who cared for her.

And he gets no closure whatsoever. Just sends his daughter off to high school one day and never sees her again. She dies, and he doesn't even get to say goodbye. He doesn't even get anything of hers back.

Akasha gives Outer Moka's rosary to Tsukune instead- After raising Outer Moka as his own, he at the very least deserved to get her rosary back. To at least get back the thing that literally made her a person.

Dude isn't even mentioned again in the story 😭 we get like 3 panels of him total and we never see him again. He doesn't even have a name!

He loses his daughter and he gets nothing from it.

I have this silly little headcanon that Akasha was actually trying to give the rosary to Moka so she could eventually return it to Outer Moka's father, but Tsukune got in the way and ended up with it instead, like that lady at weddings who shoves other women aside to get the bouquet. Tsukune is that lady.

Anyways I desire vengeance for this poor man. This father deserved something to remember his daughter by. Or at least deserved to say goodbye himself rather than having to find out through Akasha's disappearance being broadcasted to the world on tv!

Justice for Mr. Akashiya!!!! I crave justice!!

[welovemonstergirls]

The meeting with s/o's mother could have gone better. Maybe meeting the girls' parents would go better. When s/o meets Moka, Kurumu and Mizore's mother, the girls need to get run an errand. When they get back, they see their mother aggressive flirting with their s/o (sitting on s/o's lap, covering them in lipstick kisses?). s/o is clearly to paralyzed to do anything. Bonus: When the girls pull their mother off, their mother responds: "Ara Ara. You need to learn how to share."

-Moka Akashiya

-Outer Moka’s eyes widen in shock at the sight of her mother all over you. Then, she runs up and starts trying to shove her mother away. “M-MOTHER! STOP! W-WHAT WOULD FATHER SAY?!”

-When told she needs to share, she crosses her arms and huffs. “Uh-uh! I am NOT sharing s/o!”

-Inner Moka may love her mother…But that doesn’t mean she’s going to hesitate to give her a goo swift kick in the face the second she sees her all over you. Her mother is caught off guard and sent flying back, and she holds you in a protective manner. “Mother…Pardon my language, but what the HELL do you think you’re DOING?!”

-When told to share, she just scowls angrily. “I will do no such thing! S/o is mine and mine alone! No one else is allowed to have them!”

-Kurumu Kurono

-She’s very, very indignant at the sight of her mother all over you. “Moooom, stop that! You’re embarrassing me!” She complains. She doesn’t really do anything to stop her, however.

-When told to share, her response is “Eeeew! That’s creepy and gross! You’re my mom, I’m not sharing my s/o with you!”

-Mizore Shirayuki

-She doesn’t really bat an eye. That’s just what her mother is like. However, she does get a bit impatient, because she wants a turn. “Mother, how much longer is this going to take?”

-When told to share, she looks annoyed. “…I’ve shared long enough. Now please give them back.”

[fanfictionlive]

Idea for a R+V fanfic.

So , like the title says , I have an idea for an R+V fanfic . The base is relatively new , but it's like this . Fast forward a few years after the series , Tsukune is now Prince of the Vampires , ruling alongside Issa Shuzen , Moka's father and King of the Vampires. Tsukune has a harem consisting of Moka, Mizore and Kurumu . One fine day , the Bus-Driver ( as the new headmaster of Yokai Academy) calls Tsukune and Issa to the school . Once they arrive there , Nurari reveals to them a visitor who is an escapee from the realm that monsters go to after their death and the only way to reach it is to cross the great red sea near Yokai Academy. The visitor reveals that Akasha ( Issa's second wife ) is there and shows a strand of pink hair as proof that she gave him to show to them so they would believe him . Tsukune is overwhelmed with emotion because even though Outer Moka disappeared , he never stopped loving her and had panic attacks throughout the years where he had nightmares because of her 'death' . Issa is confused and after a VERY long time in his life , he shows emotion and breaks down crying. Okay that's all I kinda have for now , but if there's anyone who'd be interested in helping me write this , please please PM !

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[a-little-bit-insecure]

What Happened To Moka In The Rosario + Vampire Epilogue?

One of the more popular theories in the fandom is that "Inner" Moka and "Outer" Moka are actually the same person which is why they merged in the end- So, are Inner Moka and Outer Moka the same person?

Well we learn from Akasha that "Outer Moka" is really just her with her memories wiped. 

So going by that alone, Outer Moka cannot be Inner Moka, because Outer Moka is Akasha- or rather, it's better to say Akasha is Outer Moka.

Beyond that, Outer Moka and Inner Moka do not share the same "properties" that make them up as people.

The properties that make up a person vary depending on who you ask, but most people believe that memories, experiences, morality, and consciousness make up who they are.

So, do Inner Moka and Outer Moka have the same memories?

No, they do not. From the very second Outer Moka was given life- from the very second Inner Moka was sealed away, these two created very different memories for themselves. Outer Moka created memories of a life in the human world, memories of a different family, memories of a human school, memories of being ostracized by her peers.

During all this time, Inner Moka slept. She could make no new memories. She was effectively cut off from the rest of the world. Inner Moka did not create the same memories Outer Moka did, her very first memory of Tsukune is waking up and beating Saizo, whereas Outer Moka's first memory of him was running him over with her bike, drinking his blood, and calling him her first friend. Inner's memory is one of fighting, Outer's memory is one of friendship. These two have vastly different memories.

Do Inner Moka and Outer Moka have the same experiences?

Experiences and memories coincide with each other. For the same reasons they don't have the same memories, they don't have the same experiences either. Outer Moka experienced bullying, she experienced living among people who didn't understand her.

Inner Moka experienced growing up in a vampire family, constant fighting, kidnapping attempts as a child, watching her mother get cut in half by her sister- a lot of pretty gruesome vampire stuff, really. For 5 years Inner Moka didn’t experience anything at all. And when she woke up her experiences were just of getting called out to fight people and being sealed away again. These two have vastly different experiences. 

Do Inner Moka and Outer Moka have the same morals?

This one is a bit vague, as stated before Inner Moka was only ever called out to fight for the group, so we don't actually get to see what her morals are based on her screen/panel time in the story. But, going by their memories and experiences growing up, Outer Moka was raised to get along with others. She was a vampire in a human world, taught to not make enemies. We see multiple times throughout the series that she has a rather strong aversion to violence, opting to try talking, pleading, or getting Tsukune or Inner Moka to fight before she does. (But in situations where that doesn't work, she has been shown to defend herself or her friends.) Outer Moka has a strong affinity for friendship, jumping into a pool to try and save Tsukune and infiltrating the Snow Palace with her friends to save Mizore. 

It's harder to place down Inner Moka's morals, as she's never actually given a chance to show them. However, given her memories and experiences growing up in a well-known powerful vampire family, it's safe to say she has a rather high affinity for violence, seeing that her father forced her to fight her siblings throughout her childhood. A good comparison between her and Outer Moka would be that when the group picks a fight with Outer Moka when she gets too close to Tsukune, or when she drinks too much blood, she yells at them. When the group tries that with Inner Moka, she beats them up. When Kurumu teases that Inner Moka wants Tsukune to herself, she beats her up. Inner Moka isn’t averse to violence the way Outer Moka is. 

Inner Moka is also very prideful. She's sure of herself, and leaves little doubt or room for debate in her words and actions. Outer Moka on the other hand, she doubts herself a lot. She constantly worries. So I would say Inner Moka and Outer Moka have different morals. 

Do Inner Moka and Outer Moka have the same consciousness?

No. Akasha herself states that she is Outer Moka. Akasha erased her memories- and in doing so created another consciousness that was Outer Moka.

Now, nobody truly knows what a consciousness is. The meaning and purpose of consciousness have been a subject of study for decades. But the very basis of consciousness, the very core of it, is awareness. Consciousness is being aware of your existence. Essentially, consciousness is you. Without consciousness, you're just a mindless drone. You just do. There's nothing to life outside doing- without consciousness you don't exist.

So, according to Akasha herself, who created Outer Moka, Outer Moka has a seperate consciousness from Inner Moka, given that Akasha erased her own memories to become Outer Moka, and furthermore Outer Moka has a separate consciousness from Akasha.

Inner Moka and Outer Moka do not have the same consciousness.

To add on to this, Akasha doesn't just say that she is Outer Moka sans memories, she doesn’t just say that Outer Moka was another form of consciousness, she also says that Outer Moka is her alter ego.

Meaning, Akasha didn't create Outer Moka from Inner Moka. She created Outer Moka from herself, and embedded that self into Inner Moka through the rosary. Outer Moka is Akasha's psuedo personality, not Inner Moka's.

And, Akasha also states that Inner Moka is the "true personality." When the rosary is removed the true personality will be freed.

Inner Moka herself also confirms that she and the Outer Moka are really two seperate minds sharing the same body.

In the first chapter of the manga, Inner Moka also refers to herself as the "real" Moka, meaning she doesn't believe Outer Moka to actually be a part of her.

During the memory arc, we also interestingly learn that Outer Moka actually had a different father from Inner Moka. Inner Moka was raised by Issa Shuzen until she was unfortunately sealed away because Alucard couldn't keep his tentacles to himself. Outer Moka grew up in the human world, raised by the apprentice of Mikogami. This also explains why Moka has a different name from the rest of her family. It can be assumed that the man who raised Outer Moka had the surname "Akashiya" hence her last name. So, it'd be accurate to say Outer Moka is an Akashiya and Inner Moka is a Shuzen.

So to answer the question, "are Inner Moka and Outer Moka the same person": No they are not.

With them being seperate people comes the next question, did Inner Moka and Outer Moka merge?

Issa says that the woman who disappeared with Alucard wasn't Outer Moka, it was Akasha. This is true. Then he says Outer Moka was Akasha's alter ego. This is also true. Then he says Outer Moka grew up inside of Inner Moka, and so she was a part of her as well. This is...right and wrong.

First off, it isn't clear what he means when he says Outer Moka grew up inside Inner Moka. There are different meanings to that. Issa could have meant that physically, Outer Moka did literally grow up inside Inner Moka. Outer Moka was using Inner Moka's body. But if he meant this mentally or cognitively, then he's wrong.

As stated earlier, Inner Moka and Outer Moka do not have the same consciousness. Inner Moka and Outer Moka do not have the same memories or experiences either.

And Outer Moka did not mentally grow up inside Inner Moka. Outer Moka grew up seperate from Inner Moka. While Inner Moka slept inside the seal, Outer Moka lived outside it. Going by their names, Outer Moka is "Outer" Moka, and Inner Moka is "Inner" Moka. Going by the imagery of the seal in the manga, Outer Moka is a seperate person that cradles Inner Moka in her arms, she wraps herself around Inner Moka in a comforting embrace to shield her. Going by what Akasha herself says, Outer Moka replaces Inner Moka. Outer Moka is seperate of Inner Moka.

And it isn't possible for Outer Moka to become a part of Inner Moka at the end of the series. Because Outer Moka died. Her consciousness died when she was killed, because she was no longer alive to be conscious. So Outer Moka is gone.

To add to this, Outer Moka's consciousness wasn't the only thing that disappeared. The rosary is stated to quite literally be the equivalent of Outer Moka's soul. So when Alucard stabbed straight through the rosary and destroyed it, he quite literally destroyed Outer Moka's soul.

It's more than likely Issa just said Outer Moka was a part of Inner Moka because he felt bad for Tsukune. Telling people someone they care about who died isn't really gone is a common practice. It's meant to help soften the blow of their loss. 

And he wasn't necessarily lying when he told Tsukune Outer Moka was a part of Inner Moka. As said before, he could've just meant it physically, knowing full well it was technically the truth and would comfort Tsukune anyway. Or, he could've meant it the way most people do. Outer Moka was an important person to Inner Moka- probably the most important. Inner Moka has memories of Outer Moka, she has experiences of Outer Moka, Outer Moka is a part of her life. She affected Inner Moka. 

With this, Issa is right. Outer Moka is a part of Inner Moka, in the same way your friends and family are a part of you. They aren't literally a part of you, but they hold meaning to you. They affected you and changed you in some way, and you wouldn't be who you are without them. I believe this is what Issa meant. This is how Outer Moka was a part of Inner Moka.

Now Inner Moka's hair does change colors at the end. But there are several reasons that could have happened.

The first being, pink could have been Inner Moka's original hair color. Her hair turned silver because of her First Ancestor blood, but we don't know see it before that. And after Tsukune mastered his First Ancestor abilities, he managed to gain back his original form, so it's possible Inner Moka could have done the same.

Second being, Inner Moka could have assimilated Outer Moka's form. The reason Inner Moka has two forms is because the rosary created a second form for Outer Moka. Since the rosary worked to seal Inner Moka away, the rosary kept Outer Moka's form seperate from Inner Moka's form. But Outer Moka died, meaning there was no consciousness to use the Outer form. And Inner Moka stopped wearing the rosary, meaning there was no longer a seal to keep the Outer form seperate from the Inner one. So with no divider and no other consciousness, Inner Moka assimilated Outer Moka's form.

Third being, Outer Moka's form just had permanent effects on the body. Inner Moka's body was forcibly changed whenever Outer Moka's form was in place, and Outer Moka's form was the main form for 7 years. So for 7 years the body was changed to accommodate Outer Moka. Even with Outer Moka gone, the effects were permanent.

So in conclusion, Inner Moka and Outer Moka are two seperate people, and Inner Moka and Outer Moka didn't "merge" in the epilogue, but rather Inner Moka was just permanently changed by Outer Moka. Outer Moka unfortunately lost her life in the battle with Fairy Tale, and Akasha either disappeared or died, depending on if her disintegration spell was the "you ain't waking up tomorrow" kind or the "it'll take you a good 500 years to restore your body, but you're still kinda just hanging around in spirit until then" kind.

[welovemonstergirls]

Let's try a little role reversal. When s/o brings Moka, Kurumu, Mizore and Ruby to met his mother, she seems very sweet. That is until s/o needs to run some errands for her. That is when she becomes unbearably terrifying. She then proceeds to have a very loaded (and somewhat threatening) talk with the girls about their intentions with "her sweet baby boy". (Note: This is supposed to be more comedic.)

-Moka Akashiya

-Outer Moka is taken aback by this sudden change. She sweats nervously as she tries to assure your mother she would never harm you. Your mother might intimidate her into tearing up slightly, but she remains firm that she would never harm you. Her willingness to stand up for herself when intimidated is what convinces her.

-Inner Moka is far more calm about it. In fact, she actually ends up completely respecting your mother’s dedication to protecting you. “I understand your concerns. My father is quite protective of me as well. But I assure you…Your son is in very capable and loving hands. I hope you will come to trust me.” She’s well-mannered and calm, so your mother agrees to give it a chance.

-Kurumu Kurono

-She is downright offended that your mother would even insinuate that she doesn’t actually love you with every fibre of her being. She might end up snapping back at her a bit. “I DO love him! And I don’t care what you think of me, it’s not true! I would NEVER hurt him, and if anyone does, they have to answer to ME!” Needless to say, your mother approves that she’s dedicated enough to get angry at her for questioning if her feelings are genuine.

-Mizore Shirayuki

-She…doesn’t really do herself any favours. “What’s the issue? All I’m going to do is marry him and make a baby with him. You’ll be a grandmother soon enough. Wouldn’t that make you happy?” Your mother nearly has an aneurysm. She puts her foot down firmly. NO babies until you’re an adult. Mizore tries to get around this the best she can though.

-Ruby Toujou

-Overprotective caregivers…Just like her master used to be…Needless to say, she’s feeling quite intimidated, and she REALLY prays that this woman doesn’t find out about the stuff you two did together. She ends up pleading for a chance to prove herself, and your mother complies.

[welovemonstergirls]

How would the Rosario girls react to learning their s/o who they assumed was human is actually the son of a god? Maybe Anubis since he's the god of the dead. :) Thanks friend. :)

-Moka Akashiya

-To say both are shocked is an understatement. However, shock quickly gives way to excitement.

-Outer Moka assaults you with questions. What’s your dad like? Do you have any powers? When can she meet your parents?

-Meanwhile, Inner Moka wants to spar with you to see how powerful you are. She will not take no for an answer, either, so you’d best get it over with.

-Of course, Inner Moka also believes that her dad could beat up your dad, but that’s probably not true.

-Kurumu Kurono

-She’s rather taken aback at just how high-ranking her destined one is. The son of a God could have taken any girl they wanted, so she’s extremely grateful she’s the one they took.

-She certainly doesn’t treat you any different, but she’s not quite as protective as she was before, because she’s confident that you can handle yourself just fine.

-She’s extremely eager to meet your father. She even makes cookies. Needless to say, her bright, happy personality and amazing cooking gets her in your old man’s good books straightaway. If anything happened to her, someone would likely die.

-Yukari Sendo

-She’s honestly rather intimidated by the fact that her father in law is a god. “What if he doesn’t like me?! What if he thinks you’re creepy for being with me and blows you up or something?! What if he blows ME up?! WAAAAAAH! I DON’T WANT EITHER OF US TO BLOW UP, S/O!”

-She does as much research as she can on your father to find out just what they, and by extension you, can do.

-When she first meets your father, she spends a lot of time hiding behind your back because she’s scared to face him. Your father turns out to be far more accepting than she anticipated, and she is able to gradually relax.

-Mizore Shirayuki

-”…Oh. Neat.” That’s all she has to say in response to the situation. She doesn’t really care what you are. You’re you, that’s all she cares about.

-She does, however, feel a lot safer when you’re around with the knowledge that you have the power of a God by your side.

-She treats your dad just as casually as she’d treat anyone. He honestly finds it a nice change of pace and the two hit it off quite well. Also, your dad asks if he can expect grandchildren soon. Mizore bluntly tells him you’re working on it. You wanna die.

-Ruby Toujou

-First question she has…Is her master okay in the afterlife? You can safely confirm that she is just fine indeed.

-She’s a bit intimidated, but she tries not to let it show out of fear of offending you or your father.

-Your father’s a lot more chill than she anticipated,  but he also seems to see right through her innocent facade, and is aware of the fact that she’s into some seriously freaky stuff. She’s mortified.

-Kokoa Shuzen

-This girl’s an overexcited ball of energy upon finding out. “What’s he like?! How tough is he?! How tough are YOU?! Do you have his powers?! TELL ME THESE THINGS!”

-You end up training with her in combat. She’d never go all out before she knew you were a demi-god, but now…

-When she meets your dad, she faints from the awe of the situation. Then she faints again shortly after waking up. She’s got mad respect for those stronger than herself.