#or that unlike mankind they had knowledge of god and heaven and chose to reject it despite that
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gh-0-stcup · 1 year ago
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New concept: a souled!Dru who's like. actually pretty okay with it.
#while i do agree with the general belief that it'd probably be incredibly cruel to stuff a soul into her#i think there's ways you could make it work#many fans use her faith as a reason she'd be negatively impacted possibly to the point of suicide#but it could easily go the other way - catholics believe all sins can be forgiven#so long as the sinner is truly remorseful and repents and accepts god#if there's a demon who was once a human and they gain free will and they use that free will to choose god#theoretically there isn't a reason god would reject that#i'm admittedly not super well versed in christian and catholic theology#but afaik the reasoning behind demons being unforgiveble seems to be that they don't have free will like humans do#or that unlike mankind they had knowledge of god and heaven and chose to reject it despite that#which would not be the case for drusilla who was a human forcibly turned into a demon against her will#a souled!drusilla could have a very strong conviction that god in his infinite knowledge and mercy both loves and forgives her#which could pull her through despite the trauma#she could have a special priest mentor whose mind is blown on the regular#the weirdest member of the church but everyone loves her#oh and instead of removing her insanity or whatever nonsense people come up with#we could have it also be something that helps her - dissociating from her state as a demon or just reality in general when it gets too hard#allows her to cope better with her urges and the pain of her sins#i'm just saying let's get some creative drusilla takes#more could and should be done with her character lol#drusilla#(i like her evil i just want more variation in theories and fic 🙏)#btvs
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yourgodmoments · 6 years ago
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The Need for Christ
I hope that you are enjoying our foray through pieces of Thomas Aquinas’ Shorter Summa, this version being translated by Cyril Volkert, S.J. - this present post being the sixth in our examination.
The need for Christ actually began in the Garden of Eden…
Aquinas’ sets the stage: …man was originally constituted by God in such a condition that his body was completely subject to his soul.
Adam’s soul was a pure image of God, and thus his body was incorruptible - innocent before God, living in a harmony given by God. Aquinas’ refers to Adam’s state at this juncture, as ‘Original Justice,’ and it was to be promulgated through his successive descendants.
This however, was entirely contingent upon humanity’s continual obedience to God.
When Adam and Even broached God’s commandment not to eat the forbidden fruit, they transgressed the purpose of the prohibition, which was to remain obedient to God. The fruit itself was just the symbol of obedience, as long as it remained uneaten.
The affixed outcome was that our first parents were both exposed to evil and generated it themselves through their actions.
Satan was the agent behind their downfall. He, who had already succumbed to sin, was jealous of the high position that God held Adam and Eve in - whereby they possessed ultimate love, peace, happiness and immorality. But the devil also knew that they had been given free will. Thus, they had the potential to sin. Knowing this, Satan made preparations to thrust a spiritual dagger into God’s heart.
He promised Eve great, heretofore unknown, knowledge that would place her on a high station - supposedly level with God Himself. She then succumbed to her pride and covetousness, and fell under his sway.
Adam did not have the luxury of feigning ignorance. He was intimately acquainted with God and His dictates. He purposely transgressed them to feed his pride and covetousness as well.
In the very moment that they disobeyed God, their flesh was cut loose from the perfection of their soul and became corruptible, beginning the battle between the flesh and the spirit - ultimately resulting in death.
Moreover, they were separated from God and became more vulnerable to the devil’s suggestions.
All of these traits were handed down to all of us, and sin became rampant. Gone was the blessing of ‘Original Justice’ - replaced by the corruption of the ‘Original Sin.’
Unlike other sins, this original sin cannot be removed by man alone, regardless of the vigor of his repentance.
Yet God loves us so much that He made a way for our redemption, so that we may be reunited with Him. First, because God is just, He must mete out justice for sin. Someone had to pay for our sins. And so, God sent a part of Himself in His Son for HIs children’s justification and redemption:
No one has gone up to heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself - whose home is in heaven]…so must the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross], so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life [after physical death, and will actually live forever]. For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge and condemn the world [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world], but that the world might be saved through Him. Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation]… Jn. 3:13 - 18. AMP
Aquinas adds this: …divine Wisdom, who had made man, took to Himself a bodily nature and visited man immersed in things of the body, so that by the mysteries of His bodily life He might recall man to spiritual life. Furthermore, the human race had need that God should become man to show forth the dignity of human nature, so that man might not be subjugated either by devils or by things of the body.
Jesus is our ideal example of everything God meant us to be.
That Christ took upon Himself our likeness is born out in the demonstration of His having had a soul, which displayed human-like moments of fear and sadness:
He was hated and men would have nothing to do with Him, a man of sorrows and suffering, knowing sadness well. Is. 53:3 NKJV
“Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour?’ But for this purpose I came to this hour.” Jn. 12:37 NKJV
And yet Jesus is unique, because He possesses a soul, body and is part of the Godhead, (His divinity). He came to make us (those who willing choose to be) one with Him, through His salvation. God imputed to Jesus His divinity, whereas Mary imparted His human nature.
We see the divinity expressed in Christ through His miracles and His omniscience. Remember that Jesus is the Word of God:
For the word of God is living and powerful…and is a discerner or the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Heb. 4:12, 13. NKJV
In His humanness, Jesus had to be the perfect sinless Man, to be suitable as the Source of our salvation:
He made Christ who knew no sin to [judicially] be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we would become the righteousness of God [that is, we would be made acceptable to Him and placed in a right relationship with Him by His gracious lovingkindness]. 2 Cor. 5:21 AMP
His divinity also conferred upon Him His veracious wisdom and the grace of His Father, to make us pleasing to God, as well as to be unified with Him.
…Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1 Cor. 1:24 NLT
…Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge [regarding the word and purposes of God]. Col. 2:2, 3. AMP
Going back to the fact that Jesus had to be sinless, He would have to be free of the ‘Original Sin’ as well. And that original sin was passed down to us by the seed of Adam through the seeds of all men:
…through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation… Rm. 5:18 NKJV
Therefore, Christ could not appropriate any flesh instigated by the corrupt seed of man. Thus, God, who is the creator of all nature, supernaturally appropriated Jesus’ flesh through the Holy Spirit. As well, that flesh had to be appropriated from a woman, as she is the flesh-giver in maternity. And not just any woman, but one untainted by the male seed - a virgin - energized to conceive by the Holy Spirit:
Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son… Is. 7:14 NKJV
In order for Mary to be the perfect vessel for Christ, she herself would have to have been sanctified before the Holy Spirit stirred her flesh to bring forth life. Aquinas asserts that she must have been sanctified when she was in the womb, similarly to the prophet Jeremiah, which God revealed to him when He called Jeremiah to preach:
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; before you were born I sanctified you…” Jer. 1:5 NKJV
God is ultimate justice. His charge against man demands ultimate and pure justifying satisfaction. That can only be satisfied by the sacrifice of one on His level, and there is only one - Jesus. God had to offer a part of Himself (Christ) to exact payment. Jesus willingly took on a mortal body to do so - to become potentially ‘sin-like’ (yet sinless):
There is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death…by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us… Rm. 8:1 - 4. ESV
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us… Gal. 3:13 NKJV
Jesus stepped up to endure the sufferings that we rightly should have to endure - even death, though He Himself was faultless. He chose to die so that we might live a godly life, and to show us that there need be no fear in dying, because He’ll be waiting.
Adam sinned at the tree, Jesus was hung on one. When He died, His body-soul connection was severed; His body was indeed dead. However, both were still connected to the Spirit of Christ. Jesus’s soul then descended into hell:
“…so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Mt. 12:40 NKJV
Aquinas states that Jesus was freeing all the people in hell that were there solely because of the stain of the ‘original sin’ - establishing Him as the Savior of the living and the dead.
Christ was risen glorified and immortal. His sufferings brought us grace which means the atonement of sins for those who accept Him as their Savior.
Our glorified Savior showed Himself to many after His resurrection, where He was seen, touched, conversed with, shared meals with, passing through walls, and brandishing the scars of His impalement upon the cross.
What Christ’s followers gain, is freedom from the first death (body-soul separation) and from the second (separation from God, which is solely for those who refused Christ). Thus, we get both a physical and spiritual resurrection from the gift of Christ’s life, given for us, rendering us justified and sanctified.
Jesus is a lot bigger than we think:
“No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself - whose home is in heaven].” Jn. 3:13 AMP
Christ is like His Father, ever-present, everywhere. He was in heaven, hell and on the earth simultaneously.
At the end of time, all peoples are brought before the judgment seat of Christ - whose authority to judge is given by God:
“…He has given Him authority to execute judgment, because He is a Son of Man [sinless humanity, qualifying Him to sit in judgment over mankind].” Jn. 5:27 AMP
Christ will appear in all His glory - a joy to His saints, a harbinger of dread to those that rebelled against Him. Everyone will answer for how they conducted their lives. Those who lived a life of faith will be with Jesus, rewarded for how they advanced the kingdom. The faithless will be sifted out for eternal punishment - never to see God, Jesus, or any goodness forever.
Jesus is with us in every aspect of our lives. All the good is found in Him. We need Christ…
Goodnight and God bless.
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the-christian-walk · 7 years ago
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PROGNOSTICATORS
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The scriptures. May God bless the reading of His holy word.
 He said to the crowd: “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘It’s going to rain,’ and it does. And when the south wind blows, you say, ‘It’s going to be hot,’ and it is. Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time?”
 Luke 12:54-56
 This ends today’s reading from God's holy word. Thanks be to God.
 How good of a prognosticator are you?
 We all do it, you know. We all like to make predictions, trying to interpret any number of things.
 Of course, the one we are most familiar with is the weather and although most people don’t have the sophisticated equipment and knowledge to forecast what weather is to come, we know who to turn to that does. We even have an entire cable channel dedicated to nothing but weather. That’s how popular the need for accurate weather predicting has become. I mean, we even have a day set aside for a groundhog who presumably holds some magical ability to foretell weather spring will come early or winter will prolong.
 Recently, the National Football season ended with their showcase championship event, The Super Bowl. What happened over the two weeks leading up to it? Everyone seemed to have their own opinions as to who would win and why. Perhaps there is no other sports event that lends to predictions than professional football’s championship game.
 Yes, we seem to like to envisage almost anything that lends to prediction to include whether relationships may or may not last, particularly when celebrities are involved. But here’s one thing we’re not very good at forecasting. We’re not skilled in seeing our own futures, perhaps because we’re too focused on the futures of others, and this includes the fallen state of the world we live in.
 As we see in today’s scripture passage from the 12th chapter of Luke, this isn’t just a present day problem for the people in Jesus’ time erred the same. Look again at His words again here:
 He said to the crowd: “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘It’s going to rain,’ and it does. And when the south wind blows, you say, ‘It’s going to be hot,’ and it is. Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time?” Luke 12:54-56
 Throughout this chapter, we find Jesus addressing a crowd of thousands which included His disciples. Taking advantage of the opportunity, He does what He usually likes to do, teach. As the chapter comes to a close we find Him addressing an issue among His listeners. For although they liked to pay close attention to predicting the weather (when it would rain or be hot), especially as it applied to their beloved harvest, they were not as good at paying attention to things much more important than that like the present times.
 What were they failing to see?
 The main thing was that their Savior was with them, the Messiah prognosticated by the prophets of old, the One who had come to save them.
 Indeed, Jesus had been predicted. Jesus had been announced as arriving by John the Baptist. Jesus had shown Himself to possess a power unlike any man who had ever walked among the Jewish people. And yet the people didn’t recognize or acknowledge Him and they failed to do so all the way up to calling for His crucifixion and subsequently watching Him perish on Calvary’s cross.
 The Jewish people failed to see the predicted Jesus who was in their midst to save them from a fallen, sinful state they also seemed to overlook. Today, the same thing is happening with the only difference being that the knowledge of Jesus as being God’s only Son and the Savior of mankind has now existed for more than 2,000 years. It’s far from a novelty as it was back when Jesus was alive.
 So what will come of those today who can prognosticate weather, sporting events, relationships, or any number of other things and yet not see that they are living in a world destined for destruction, a world ready to take them down with it unless they receive salvation through Jesus, the only One who can bring it?
 Let me make a prediction.
 It’s not going to end well and this isn’t coming from me. God’s word tells us what to expect.
 “And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.”
 “Then I saw ‘a new heaven and a new earth,’ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then He said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”  Revelation 20:12, 15; 21:1-5
 Here is the prediction that is trustworthy and true, the prognostication you can take to the proverbial bank:
 The book of life is going to be open and not everyone’s name is going to be written in it. Only those who received Jesus Christ as Savior will be listed and those people will enter into the new earth and heaven with God forever, liberated from everything that has ever afflicted them in this earthly life. Indeed, God will make all things new through His Son.
 As for those who chose to reject Jesus, giving their attention to everything else except their own need for salvation, they will find they are not in the Book of Life and as a result will get to spend the rest of their life in the lake of fire. That’s right. You aren’t going to incinerate into ash and that be the end of it. That would be too easy. Instead, you will get to live in eternal torment. You’ll wish you could escape it but there will be no way out. Ultimately, you’ll get to kick yourself forever for snubbing the One who came to save you.
Here’s the good news for today. You can choose to secure your future in the best way possible, a future that will never stop being the best ever. You can reside with God and Jesus eternally with no worry over pain or sickness or hurt or sin for there will only be light and love and peace forever more.  
 All you need to do is realize you are a sinner without hope of salvation unless you receive Jesus as your Savior, the Jesus who died in your place on the cross to pardon you from your sins, the Jesus who justifies you on judgment day before God the Father, the Jesus who will ensure your name is written in the Book of Life.
 Amen.
 In Christ,
Mark
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