#or has kcon's side bitches always been there

[cockinator3000]

so the main kcon stage is at 10 am i think...and assuming i'm fr staying up until 5 for bonedo i'll def wake up late..... enha probs won't perform until the show's almost over....and i'm going out tommorrow around noon so i'll be waking up around the time kcon starts anyway to get ready even if i didn't want to and then i'll be there by the time enha appears....i'm set it seems

[angrykpoprants]

Bts paved the way for kpop idc what anyone says no one cared about kpop until BTS

I beg to differ, maybe for the late 2010′s and performing at award shows but not for kpop as a whole. However, this is always going to be a topic that always going to be two sided. And I full on respect your opinion, because I can see where its coming from. 

I’ve always felt like kpop was just a sub genre like a lot of other music, while its not mainstream and US artist will always have the upperhand in their home country kpop has a large enough following in the US, its just like that time were J-rock and J-pop was huge… btw does anyone remember Puffy AmiYumi?

I think the reason as to why it really looks like they were the ones who paved the way for kpop is because of the social media and fandom culture we have now, from 2005-2014 social media culture wasn’t like what it is today, I’m not even talking about fan interaction either, because I feel like there was way more fan interaction on twitter from the B.A.P members. 

Lets see the timeline of kpop/korean artist making headlines in America 

2005

Rain made headlines for being the first ever Korean artist to perform outside of Asia. He was also the first Korean artist to perform in the US, and let alone do a 2 hour concert. It’s one of the biggest Korean concert that was held in NYC. It even featured Pi Diddy, Omarion, and JoJo Levesque. This was the initial foot print that the hallyu wave had outside of Asia 

2006

Rain made headlines for because Time magazine listed him as one of the 100 most influential people in the world, to that Stephen Colbert invited him on his show and they did a parody of Way to Avoid the sun. 

The year that MTV made a special channel on American TV soley for kpop called MTVk

2007

Rain also again gained more american attention for being listed in People’s most beautiful people in the world

2008 

Bi Rain and Joon Park both were in Speed Racer, that was a big achievement for Korean Singers… just simply being able to graze the big screen. Rain more so than Joon got a good amount of attention, he even got some American interviews 

2009

Rain and Lee Joon were in Ninja Assassin. Rain made major headlines for again not only being in an American movie but this time actually staring in the movie and about how much training he did just for the movie. 

This was also the same year Korean actor Lee Byun hyun had his US debut 

GD at the time also got some attention after the alleged plagiarism between Heartbreaker and Right Round when Flo Rida performed with him

Wonder Girls made their American debut 

Wonder Girls were the opening act for the Jonas Brothers making the Jonas brothers one of the first American artist to work with a kpop group

BoA’s eat you up was released and played everywhere 

2010

Rain again made American attention by not only being nominated for an American award show but also winning MTV’s Movie Awards Biggest Badass Star beating Angelina Jolie, Chris Pine, Channing Tatum, and Sam Worthington 

Will.I.Am started to work with 2ne1 

2011

Bigbang gain global attention and celebrity clout after being the first kpop group nominated, attending and winning Best Global act at the MTV EMA’s beating Britney Spears in the process 

2012

Fantastic Baby went viral, reaction videos were popping up left and right. Fantastic Baby even played in some stores and I believe some radio stations 

Fantastic Baby was featured Glee 

SNSD had their American debut 

Wonder Girls made a American movie and JYP was featured in it (i know.. its cheesy)

This is the year of B.A.P’s debut where their debut album made it into the the World Album Chart at number 10 which was extremely rare at the time considering they didn’t even have a kpop section yet. 

Bigbang was on the Grammy’s front page twice 

Bigbang’s Alive world tour was the only full on sold out Kpop concert at the time, selling out not only in NA but SA and Europe, and were forced to add extra dates because the demand was extremely high, not to mention celebrities were showing up left and right to their tour stops 

This year was also Psy’s year which did bring attention to kpop and YG ent… regardless if Gangnam Style is a joke or not

The first Kcon was created 

GD also got international attention by showing up at PFW12

2013

B.A.P and Psy were featured on Grammy’s “Best of 2012″ making B.A.P the only kpop group on that page 

B.A.P’s first world tour for their US dates sold out in about an hour

Little Mix decided to join in on the Hallyu wave by doing a Korean version of Wings 

Will and Jaden smith met up with YG fam and Jay Park which brought attention to kpop beings that Jay wrote a song for their movie 

Will.I.Am and 2ne1′s collab was released

Anna Kendrick also wanted to get in on the Hallyu wave action by meeting up with f(x)

B.A.P performed in time square generating so much attention 

The year that Billboard gave themselves a kpop section because of the major Hallyu wave giving credit to B.A.P, 2ne1, and Bigbang for helping that chart exists 

Justin Bieber asked GD to feature at his concert in Seoul and proceed to tweet and IG about him 

Paris Hilton talked about GD being her favorite Korean artist

Paris Hilton tweeted about hanging out with GD 

Barbara Palvin talked about GD 

Choi Siwon went to the Met Gala 

Super Junior was invited to Oxford to talk about how they helped start the hallyu wave and the kpop attention in the US 

2014

Skrilex released his song featuring CL and GD 

B.A.P did a nickelodeon shout out 

I think this was the year that Exo got a lot of American attention too, but im not sure because im not an Exo-L

GD got attention just for showing up at Coachella 

CL signed with School Boy 

I am the Best was featured in a microsoft commercial 

2015

Emma Stone professed her love for kpop on American TV 

Fantastic Baby was featured in the Pitch Perfect trailer 

I am the Best was featured in a microsoft commercial again

Hyukoh’s Come and Goes gained international attention

2016

Far East Movement worked with Chanyeol and Loco

Jaden Smith tweeted about GD being is inspiration

Baauer released a song featuring GD  

Lil Yachty did his Bigbang tribute and has been know to be a fanboy of bigbang for a while

Epik High was the first Kpop group to perform at Coachella 

CL performed on James Corden 

I am the Best was featured in a microsoft commercial again

Hello Bitches was in a T-Moble commercial 

GD got international attention for being chosen as Channels ambassador 

2017

President Obama talked about the Hallyu wave and gave credit to shinee 

Tablo, Rain, and Kim Taehee were invited to the Grammys 

Jaden Smith tweeted about GD’s album 

Jay Park signed with Roc Nation 

DNCE talked about wanting to work with GD 

GD got international attention for is world tour 

2018

I am the Best was featured in a Kia commercial 

Hyukoh’s Citizen Cane was chosen to be in the Animoji comercial 

Hyukoh x Beats by Dre

Hyukoh was interviewed by Beats1

Taeyang got international attention for just getting married 

I would go more into detail by just tweeting about kpop but thats too much work to look for, kpop is a fad and it comes and goes. I kind of like what Hyukoh said about the whole Hallyu Wave/BTS thing they said “I think it’s really interesting and it’s fun to watch. Because of it, I think in some aspects were are benefitting from it, that’s really great. But nothing is forever, there will be some point when K-pop won’t be as popular. But because we’re not K-pop, I hope we stay popular even when K-pop is not.“

BTS did not start the hallyu wave, nor did they pave they way. They were just the first to walk on that new path which then inspired more to do the same and they were the first to win fandom based awards.

No matter what this will always be a topic is where some OG and new kpop fans clash, so yes, BTS is helping the Hallyu wave but they didn’t create the fad. I think the real Hallyu wave starter is Rain

[hyungtop]

Can you introduce me to sf9? I don't know much about them tbh.

sure thing! i hope this helps :)

!! long post warning!!

sf9 stands for “sensational feeling 9,” they’re an idol group under fnc entertainment that debuted on october 6, 2016. before debut they were in a program called neoz school as the neoz dance team, along with 4 other trainees that made up the neoz band team (now honeyst, check them out they’re great!) the two groups then entered the survival show dance or band (d.o.b) to get a chance at debut. the dance team won by a very close vote so they got to debut first. in korea, sf9 has released one single album, called feeling sensation, and two extended plays, called burning sensation and breaking sensation. in japan, they’ve recently released two singles, fanfare and easy love. they are currently holding fanmeetings around asia and will be at kcon la next month!

sf9′s fanbase name is fantasy!

sf9 has 9 VeRY GOodLOOkING members: inseong, youngbin, jaeyoon, dawon, zuho, rowoon, taeyang, hwiyoung, and chani, from oldest to youngest. here is a ppt i found with some pretty good info: ppt

some more info about the members:

inseong

born on july 12, 1993 (his birthday was a few days ago!)

main vocalist, oldest member, 1/3 of extra line

from cheongdamdong, seoul

aspiring rapper

“fennec fox” (he thinks he looks like one), wink fairy

currently studying at kyunghee university as a journalism/communications major

in charge of english, his mom is an english teacher so she taught him and he also studied abroad for a year in london!

loves to eat

has THICK ASS THIGHS from playing sports wow those thighs wow

his favorite color is pink, he thinks it makes him look “young and fresh”

former sm trainee

has the stupidest laugh i don’t know how to describe it but it will make you smile every single time

likes to wear different lip tints but isn’t very good at wearing them, he’ll eat after his makeup is done and it smears everywhere

supposedly the mom of sf9 but only in that the maknaes listen to him (most of the time)

youngbin

born nov. 23, 1993

leader, lead rapper, lead dancer

v responsible guy who takes care of his 8 kids

usually very soft-spoken but sometimes he is so loud…so loud

looks a little like chani bc they both have the same haircut

stylists like to put him in shorts and sleeveless shirts bc he got the nice legs and arms

likes to wear caps

cannot do aegyo to save his life but he tries

v cute with his big round eyes and bunny teeth and eyesmile and dumb laugh but he’s a very wild dancer

is actually a pretty decent vocalist

one of the only buns who has piercings in this group, he has two helix piercings in his right ear and one lobe piercing in each ear

always posting on twitter, usually selcas but sometimes just pictures of his fingers or hands

LOVES giving skinship. he used to be very lonely so now he’s very affectionate with the other guys, especially with chani

but doesn’t like receiving skinship, can usually be found screaming when jaeyoon kisses him

jaeyoon

born aug. 9, 1994

lead vocalist, 2/3 of extra line

from busan but is not a manly busan man…we all know he’s afraid of everything sorry honey secret’s out

beautiful smile (those canines!!)

beautiful voice, i wish he had more parts

he has these soulful puppy eyes that make you want to wrap him up and hold him forever

sang the ost for my only love song

inseong’s best friend

resident girl group dance expert, do not challenge him diva jaeyoon will destroy you

very greasy, loves to kiss the camera and act cute

also incredibly sassy?

lowkey disses the other members while he’s trying to secure screentime

but very very sweet and loves to give kisses

dawon

born july 25, 1995

lead vocalist, 3/3 of extra line

real name lee sanghyuk

loud. very loud. you think you know loud? if you haven’t met dawon then haha this guy has two modes, fuckin loud and even louder

is probably screaming or making bad puns

sf9′s moodmaker

hobby: stealing hearts

self-proclaimed aegyo master. it’s bc he does not feel any of the shame that accompanies aegyo

seriously shameless. in their first show champion behind, he stuck his finger up youngbin’s nostril then wiped the same finger on youngbin’s lip

very talkative and very witty. lots of variety sense so he’s had a lot of solo activities, been on the radio and weekly idol segments

loves to kiss chani. if youngbin isn’t kissing chani then dawon is.

actually very soft on the inside and afraid of many things

zuho

born july 4, 1996

main rapper, lyricist/composer

real name baek juho

deep ass voice, sounds like a monster when he raps sometimes

gaze and jawline so sharp they can cut a bitch but um actually he’s a soft baby

likes hugs and kisses and handholding, precious baby who gets upset when the other members aren’t paying him enough attention

perhaps the most 4d, can be found pulling faces and making soft little noises to himself in the bg of many videos

has two very distinct laughs: the first mode is obnoxiously loud “HAHA”s and gasping for air, the second mode is soft but high-pitched giggling

seems like he’s always coughing or sniffling :(

resident bts fanboy

trained the longest (6 years) at fnc

good dancer, proud of his sexy dance ability

proud of his sharp nose “shiny nose juho” “my nose is my swag”

likes to walk around the dorm half-naked, snores like a chainsaw

rowoon

born aug. 7, 1996

main vocalist, visual

if you don’t think he’s hot…well i haven’t met anyone yet who doesn’t think he isn’t at least remotely attractive so

tall dark and handsome: he’s 189cm tall (6′2), always flipping his black (now it’s brown) hair, has these beautiful pink lips and good body proportions

cooks and cleans, nags the other members to do their laundry properly

mom-friend wannabe

seriously beautiful inside and out

loves chani so much…but chani doesn’t love him back :( just kidding chani and rowoon are close

has a very high-pitched, giggly little girl laugh

has done some solo activities, such as lipstick prince and modeling during seoul fashion week…he out there networkin

currently a model for innisfree

recently casted as a lead in the drama school 2017

taeyang

born feb. 28, 1997

main dancer, vocalist (i know there’s some debate about whether or not taeyang is a main vocal or not bc he gets almost as many lines as inseong/rowoon bc he’s usually p stable live)

from mokdong, seoul

powerful, wild dancer with many many body rolls what are you doin yoo taeyang

lots of charisma but is a quiet and shy bun offstage

wants to be a florist if he isn’t a singer

very very passionate in everything he does and it shows

loves the fans. has been seen on various occasions staring down lovingly at them from the window of the broadcasting station and praising the lovely law-abiding (??) fans

says a lot of greasy/cheesy things with a cute smile and sweet voice

the other guy who also has piercings, has two lobe piercings in his left ear and one in his right

apparently does not know how to dress himself and has no idea that chicken bones are not considered recyclable waste

considers everyone his baby

hwiyoung

born may 11,1999

rapper, sub-vocalist

supposedly a hidden visual but i don’t really see what they mean bc those visuals are very obviously real

not too great at dancing compared to the other members but he has improved a lot!

“cold city man” of sf9

ironic bc he’s also from busan, and also a wimp

has a pretty deep voice but is in charge of dolphin screams

has a love-hate relationship with chani. they’re close and soft and hold hands but they’re so competitive and always trying to outdo the other

he is inseong’s baby i swear there are so many pictures of him sitting on inseong’s lap

very smiley but is always covering his smile why are you doing that honey

chani

born jan. 17, 2000. an actual child

main dancer, rapper, sub-vocalist

from daejeon

maknae on top. is sweet with the fans, gives us cute smiles and noona aegyo and lots of winks but cuts down his hyungs…they still baby him anyway

is just generally a boob, does the opposite of what everyone tells him to do and laughs while he does it

the object of everyone’s affections especially youngbin

does not appreciate kisses but usually tolerates other forms of skinship

cannot eat spicy food but loveslovesloves chicken

has the deepest voice in the group, other than zuho, and does some pretty bomb imitations of zuho

currently attending sopa! he did a vlive in the cute yellow uniform

acted in a bunch of dramas, earlier this year he was in the movie goodbye single

here are some of their songs:

fanfare: their debut song! mv // live // practice // cute ver.

k.o: a little different than the d.o.b but still very good live // practice 1 2

roar: mv // live // practice // valentine’s day ver.

still my lady: practice // special mv // touch ver.

easy love: probably my favorite bc i started following them during this era! mv // live // practice // self-cam // japanese version

watch out: live // practice // uniform ver.

and some of my personal favorites:

together // tell me what it is // jungle game // shut up ‘n lemme go // around farewell

some videos of the stuff they’ve done:

predebut

heart attack dance cover

i need u cover

i hope cover

i’m a loner cover

lunch time // english lessons // ootd

5 members dance performance: one take // directed by hwi

d.o.b (you can find all episodes here)

click your heart

special food 9

spectacle fantasy 9

so beautiful

battle for vroomie 1 2 3 4 5

otw: busan fansign // gwangju fansign

roar behind

mask pack singer

93 line’s vlive

kcon japan easy love // special stage

kcon ny easy love // special stage

kcon la fanfare // special stage

side note: not sure if you’re interested in ships but some of the more popular ships are inseong/jaeyoon (jaeseong), taeyang/hwiyoung (hwitae), and rowoon/chani (rochan). a few other ships: youngbin/inseong (youngseong), zuho/inseong (juseong), rowoon/zuho (juwoon), and hwiyoung/chani (chanhwi or hwichan) sorry my bias is showing but inseong’s a lil hoe