#okay hopefully this movie won't interfere with my studying anymore since i let probably everything out

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MORE OF PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 5 THOUGHTS

mostly for @wantasugarcube, (who’s the cutie who replied to this post) but like, also in general everything I was thinking about these past few days. Cuz it’s A Lot, and you guys, I have exams and I have to focus, not analyse a movie, please someone explain that to my dumb brain thanks

Anyways, includes a little bit of my history with potc, more of new characters thoughts, and why am I salty about Jack Sparrow (had to let it out at some point, I’m sorry), and of course, Willabeth feels.

Under read more because of spoilers, and because it’s Very Long Post (like, a Super Long Post, I kid you not, I think I went a bit overboard with it whoopsies) ~

wantasugarcube said: Thank you. I was 500% there for the Willabeth scene (and pretty much nothing else) even though I just KNEW it was going to be practically the last thing in the movie. I was even afraid they would leave Liz’s appearence only to the post-credit thing and when their reunion happened I cried many tears of relief bc fucking 10 years I DID MY WAITING. Did I love Jack in the original trilogy? Yep, I did, specially for his comic vein, but the movies were always about Will and Liz for me. [1] 

Did I end up loving Henry (yes for perfect casting) and Carina (I already loved Kaya so it was nearly a given)? Yep, I did! But the movie still felt dragged out because I wanted what I wanted lol. Also, Javier Bardem is brilliant, but I was not convinced by his villain and maybe the reason is I’m simply tired. I just wanted Will and Elizabeth together and oh god thank you. Also, the cuddle scene aldjals but I do agree with you that ENOUGH WITH THE SUFFERING. Nightmares it is. [2]

I was in a near panic when the theories about Elizabeth maybe being dead started to pop up. I refused to believe it, and I’m very glad it whoever imagined this was very wrong. Alive and safe and together is my aestetic for Willabeth. I hope they won’t try to mess it up again. Ok, I’m done lol. #ProtectWillabeth [3]

So ha, first of all, thank you again for replying to my post, and I’m so! glad you liked my first impression 4am thoughts :D (because honestly, sleeping? After Willabeth Reunion? As if there was a possibility like that hah)

So anyway, I am so glad that you, like me, love these movies for Will and Liz, and not just because of Jack, because I grew up with people who loved mostly Jack. And so I never got to express my Willabeth feels properly until tumblr found its way to my life and aaaah yes, there are people like me here yes yes yes so yay! I basically love you already just for this ♥

Sooo I hope you don’t mind, I’m just gonna ramble super long about my relationship with Willabeth now and I’m sorry if you don’t care about it at all, but I wanted to share and ramble, and maybe should have in a different post but? Too late, too lazy, no time for that.

SO,

I remember how I watched AWE for the first time (I went to a midnight premiere with my family). And I remember exactly how I felt during the maelstorm battle. I remember how tense I was, completely terrified that something may happen to someone, repeating in my head over and over again that it’s a Disney movie and so they can’t kill of the main character.

And then they did. They literally killed Will and I was in such a shock that the rest of the movie went by as a dream, me not really focusing on it. Then I dragged myself home. And later, they came the tears.

And a thought: “Fix it!”

I don’t even know for how long I hoped for another potc movie where they would just fix it. Because, yes, then they said that it was just for 10 years and afterwards the curse would be broken, but at that time? It wasn’t enough for me. Especially since only half of the people took that version, and the other prefered the ‘once every ten years’ one.

But Orlando said he’d be cool with returning only if Keira would. And Keira was apparently done with potc world, wanting to explore other genre etc (which is totally understandable, bc like lol she was 17 when started shooting the first potc movie, of course she wanted to continue growing as an actress and forming her carreer etc)

And so since time heals and all, I made peace with that.

But then they made the fourth movie? It’s probably one of the reasons I don’t like that movie that much, is because they just excluded Will and Liz and went to make another potc movie without them, just with Jack.

Like no. The next movie was supposed to be the one that Fixed everything, not some random completely different standalone? What? No!

But it happened anyway. 

Aaaand in the end the fourth movie was what it was, and I got over that as well, accepted that they just erased Will and Liz completely, and now make potc about Jack. Whatevs.

That’s why I was really neutral about the fifth movie. I kind of ignored all the news about it, because I thought meh. Jack again. Again I gotta pretend I’m excited to see him. Meh.

But then the news found their way to me and ??? Wait, Willabeth’s son will be there? Orlando will play there??

Wait.

Keira will???

But I was too sceptical anyways. Over the years I found myself some Willabeth loving friends, bless them, and so I immediately discussed the issue with one of them. But also, I was too scared to know, to get spoiled, so I continued ignoring any info about this movie, because I didn’t want to get my hopes up.

So I only had like 2 conversations with that friend about it, and what we mostly discussed was how scared we both were, and how we had no idea what to think. So, of course, we started to think the worst. Mostly, Why would Elizabeth make an appearance? Like you said there were theories that Liz died. Well, these theories luckily didn’t find their way to me, since I was avoiding all info, (and WOW I would Die if I heard something about it. I am so! glad I didn’t ufff) but basically me and my friend came to the same conclusion???

Like, we thought three things:

they will make Willabeth happy again (not likely)

they will Screw everything up Big Time (more likely)

they will have Will and Liz appear in completely different parts of the movie and won’t mention their relationship at all/won’t give them proper closure (very likely)

So my expectations when I was actually going to see the movie were Extremly low. All I was hoping for was that since Henry was their son, Willabeth as a couple would be at least mentioned.

Also Thank Goodness Kaya was there, and Benton was cast as Henry? Because I love Kaya (thanks to The Maze Runner btw, and yay, I’m so glad you like her as well??? Yes great, she is amazing!), and because I just love Brenton’s face, it’s just totally Willabeth face, once you see it, it’s unseeable tbh :D

That’s why I thought some of the scenes were boring and dragged out, because I kept thinking: “oh come on, stop fighting and start talking about Willabeth alreadyyy” lol. I actually feel bad about it, but some of the scenes Were really unnecessary and uniteresting, and not because of the lack Willabeth. 

But I feel less bad knowing I wasn’t the only one and you thought that too, haha, bless!

And so I focused on Carina and Henry. I was surprised how much I loved Carina. I completely adore her so much! And I was actually thinking about her A Lot lately, and like, she’s a Badass!

And it’s one of the things I’ve always loved about potc movies. How well they wrote the female characters. Like, all of the women in potc universe are incredibly strong, but all of them in their own, badass way! 

I mean, take Anamaria, she ready to slap the bich and has a perfect no nonsense attitude towards all idiocy, and not only Jack. Straight forward let everyone know she’s the real boss there.

Take Tia Dalma, absolute Queen, is powerful as hell (even before the whole Calypso thing), knows how to play her own and others’ game, takes what she wants and doesn’t apologize for a thing, because she Doesn’t Need To.

Take even Angelica! Knows exactly how to play Jack, makes her beauty and flirtiness into a weapon and gets everyone wrapped around her finger just like that.

Also Syrena, but I mean, I don’t remember them giving her much room for characterisation. Tbh, I’m so sorry, but I mostly remember her just like the Mermaid. (Maybe because I saw potc4 max like 2 times lol oops but at least you see how much I just am edgy about that movie hah)

And of course, Elizabeth, who’s the biggest King of them all, and I could probably write a whole novel on how amazing she is, but like, just saying Elizabeth Swann, is self explanatory tbh.

Which brings me to Carina. She’s a completely original character, A woman, who is a Scientist, and who fights the way in the world dominated by men through Reason. Which is incredible! And that’s why I loved watching her. Because she is insanely relatable person, for me, at least. She has faith and believes that the people will understand her if they just listen to her. But lmao, men never listen, do they? But she tries over and over again. I mean, at some point or another, all the other ladies learn that they just gotta basically punch the pirate in the face to make a point, but she over and over again tries to reason with them. And it was so frustrating to watch her suffer like that. (Like, for example, the Horologist joke was funny at first but they kept dragging it out to a point where I just wanted to punch every single of those pirates in the face ugh! Or when the dumbheads kept calling her Witch *sighs*!)

So yay! I so love Carina, yessss! And I welcome her to the Turner family.

As for Henry, I mostly love how he’s a perfect combination of Willabeth. He has all the Will’s good traits, where he’s willing to listen, reason, and was basically the only one who treated Carina with respect (like Will with Liz) (But then again, he was raised by Liz,so that’s given) and is a good and uncorrupted person, and basically inherited all of his father’s cinnamon roll-ness, you know? And plus, he has so much of Liz in him as well! His stubbornness, his rebellion, his devotion, and quick mind. Like, he’s just a perfect person made of those two and that just makes him a wonderfully his own person and I love that.

As for Javier, he’s a wonderful actor, and played Salazar amazingly, but I was just tired of that Jack-Sparrow-Did-Something-To-Me-And-Now-I-Want-Revenge trope honestly, I was just ready to get over with it.

As for Jack, what I always liked about him is that under all that funniness and rum and pirating around, he’s a genius, who always has something up his sleeve. And when you least expect it, he turns the tables the way he wants. While everyone just thought he was just the always drunk funny guy. But I feel like they just started to put more of the funniness and less of the wicked-smart-under-it-all into his character? Or did they? Tbh, I need to watch the movie again, but since the whole movie was terribly predictable to me, I feel like this is one of the things that I missed.

Alsooo, a little sideways, but I’m so! salty about this lmao, I gotta let it out. And that’s the: Elizabeth Never Talked about Jack. Because since the movie, I saw a lot of people Shocked by that, asking “How Come She Never Talked About Jack???”

And the thing is, I’m pretty sure that’s not what was the point of that scene. I’m pretty sure Elizabeth Did talk about Jack. She told Henry her and Will’s story, and it’s impossible to exclude Jack from that, because he played a Huge role in it. But. The thing is that Jack doesn’t really ask Henry if Elizabeth ever mentioned him in the relation to Her and Will. And even if he did, the moment Henry reveals who he is, Jack not only immediately proceeds to terribly dismiss and insult the man who Henry loves, admires, and has dedicated whole life trying to save (like, I know it’s a running joke in the potc movies, so I get it, but for Henry it isn’t), but also immediately proceeds to ask about his mother in a completely inappropriate way??? Like, Henry’s adult and not an idiot, and the way Jack mentions Liz is 100% sexual, and Henry super knows that lmao. Not only that, Jack asks Henry if Elizabeth says Jack’s name in her sleep. Like seriously??? That’s 1000000% not the way anyone should talk about anyone, more so Elizabeth, his mother, who Henry loves and admires? Like, I’m sorry, but what the actual hell was that.

Like of course Elizabeth never mentioned Jack in that way, and if she ever mentioned him in relation to anything, Henry would 100% not admit it now, after that kind of talk about his mother lmao. What even.

Honesly, this is also what I terribly missed about Jack. The respect, I guess? Like, in the end of AWE, I was under the impression that after all the back stabbing and rivalty, Will, Elizabeth, and Jack parted ways in a friendly, and respectable way?

That despide that Jack was reasonably mad at Will, insulted him often, and Will reasonably disliked Jack, in the end, they were allies? And they respected each other in their own way? ??

And even more, I’m sorry, but I was under impression that Jack had a Huge respect for Elizabeth. Like, I really was.

And this movie just made me think a complete opposite.

But idk.

Like tbh, I know Jack’s dirty minded pirate and all, and I’m not sure how I personally would played that scene out, but idk. It just rubbed me a completely wrong way and I’m just real salty about it. And I know I’m maybe too critical about it, and it was a funny scene, so sure, if people liked it, it’s okay. If it gave Sp@rrabeth shippers material, then it’s fine. I mean, ship away, but for me it was just too cringey, I can’t help it :/

Anyway, let’s talk about the thing that matters the most anyways, yeah?

and that’s Willabeth. So as I said, at first I didn’t expect much,and I just hoped they wouldn’t ruin them even more and would leave their relationship be.

But, when it was clear that the movie was about to end soon, I started to get impatient because they still didn’t show Liz. And obviously, the curses were broken, so where was Will? And for the first time, I had hope. I was like, yo does that mean we’re actually getting It? The Reunion? Does it does it does it? And then they showed Will, and by this time I’m on the edge of the seat for the first time of this movie, and literally all I’m thinking is: “Put! Liz! In! That! Scene! Alreadyyyyy!” and then they did and I Flipped! I just started to punch my friend’s arm like crazy, (who probably did think I was crazy), with the biggest smile on my face and I had to physically hold myself so I wouldn’t jump to my feet screaming like a maniac because I sure felt like it! And I still do tbh. Even today. 5 days after watching the movie, I catch myself not being sure that scene even happened. But It Did. It did and it saved the whole movie, saved 2017, and saved me. And they didn’t. Have To. Say. One. (1). Word.

Like, tbh, I’m not surprised Keira Knightley single handedly saved my insignificant life once again, but she really did. She really did. She. Really. Did.

About the after-credits scene, I am so glad you agree with me about the nightmare theory, because as I said before, bringing Davy back is ridiculous. He wasn’t uncursed, because he’s literally dead, and if he was uncursed he wouldn’t be all tentacley, but he stayed tentacley, because he was Stabbed and Killed and Now He’s Dead, which means he couldn’t be uncursed. (Cuz he’s dead).Thanks

So let us just focus on how when Will makes sure there’s no one at the door, he looks immediately to Liz to make sure she’s there and is okay and not in danger, and seeing her he just exhales and immediately relaxes. And you can just see how he realises all. over. again. that the horrors of the past 19/20 or so years are gone and it’s real, he’s here and she’s here. Oh God, she’s here. And in that tiny moment you see how it just Hits him again. And so the only thing he can do is to embrace and cuddle her without really waking her up, because that would probably worry her, and he doesn’t want her to worry. He just wants to hold her, feel her in his arms, feel her warmth, her breath on his skin. Anything and Everything that ensures him again and again that she is there, with him, and he is there. With her.

W O W

I LOVE! THEM! SO! MUCH! 

I honestly need to have their love Tattooed All Over My Body. I don’t need to eat or drink, literally Willabeth is all I need

W O W

#ProtectWillabeth All The Way. All. The. Way. Always.