#ok not even MENTIONING that riza crying over roy's body in 03 and killing him in mangahood
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so we've been chatting in the 03 server (weekly plug to send me a message if you're interested, 18+ pls) about roy's place in the narrative both in 03 and in mangahood, and the conclusion i have firmly come to is that in EVERY iteration, in EVERY series.... roy should have died!
in 03, i think all the points that i covered in this post about scar...are also true for roy!!! scar's death was the completion of his narrative arc, because the other options were punishment by or collaboration with the fascist institution that genocided his people. what are roy's options at the end of his narrative arc? a) become the fuhrer or b) be exiled to an outpost on the edge of amestris only to be pulled in at the last minute for a movie cameo??? as much as i loved seeing him with the eyepatch in cos, neither of those are narratively satisfying, and that is DOUBLY true if you consider that one of the primary draws of his character is, to be frank, ROYAI! AND THEY NEVER GET TOGETHER! and throughout the series, we see that roy's true intention is not to become fuhrer but rather to seek redemption for what he's done (that's why he has to go after bradley, even when ed explicitly points out he'll never be able to stay in the government if he does so - killing wrath gives him a chance to both stop the puppeteering of the country by an evil entity who truly does not CARE about nation states or people, and it is something he can do. it is the action he has to take to feel like he is making a difference and to address the goal of never taking another stupid order ever again)
but guess how else he could've achieved that goal of never taking another stupid order again! THE BITCH COULD'VE DIED! he could've died doing something wonderful and heroic. in fact i'd argue that the flashbacks and references to his suicidality set up a narrative arc of him plunging towards his own death, but not at his own hands but rather for a purpose, as a means of redemption. doing something that matters when you realize you are part of a system wherein you have no good choices. everything you do makes you complicit. so he decides that he has to break his loyalty to the system - and that point is why, like, his whole situation in cos doesn't really make sense to me. why is he still in the amestrian military? WHAT is the logic behind giving up flame alchemy after he just used it for an IMMENSELY good deed? it just makes sense to me that roy's story ends also with his death but in a moment of redemption. (plus it would make for a narrative parallel with both scar's death and ed's death - and as i said in the post i linked, the idea of "i love scar but never forgave him for the Murder" ALSO APPLIES TO ROY MUSTANG! that story! should end! in HIS end!)
i feel generally similarly about mangahood, and my only distinction there is the insanity of actually going with the option to make him fuhrer. it's absurd! it's terrible! there is no apparent demilitarization and roy just covers everything up and never lets The People learn the truth! like! THAT WAS THE PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH! and honestly when they get to the FINAL final battle he feels relegated to third fucking tier character and it's like. kill the man! let him die! give us a consequence who isn't a villain or a minor side character you're trying to make us feel sad about but for whom we're like. eh! i mean it's sad! but i will quickly forget buccaneer died if you move us right along to the Main Cast I Care About!
special shoutout to @jostenneil's wonderful posts here and here for reviving this thought and articulating somethign wonderful in particular about the royai tunnel scene!
#meta#ok not even MENTIONING that riza crying over roy's body in 03 and killing him in mangahood#winds up giving her back some agency in BOTH series because in cos she essentially would replace roy as a character entirely!
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FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST 2003 LIVE REACT: EPISODES 6-10
back at it again with the white vans
episode 6: the alchemy exam
alrighty then
um mustang calling edward “ed” is EXTREMELY offputting
ohhhhhhh noooooo not shou tucker
FUCK
im wholly unprepared
them all being in central instead of east is low key jarring like my brain isnt computing it
alexander’s intro is basically the same
nina bbyyyyy girl u deserved so much better
ed is such a fucking nerd...chemistry club modern au confirmed
god the more tucker talks the more i wanna beat his face in
al pretending to eat by tossing a potato in his armor i-
aww theyre playing in the snow theyre so pure
wonder how long thatll last
“bigger brother” and “little big brother” and ed doesnt even get mad
ed’s birthday party????????
A MELON? ED YOURE SO RUDE
so 03 had ed’s bday instead of elicia’s...CAUSE THEY GOT ELICIA IN THE WOMB
“it’s here!” “the tea?” “the baby!” hughes is a fuck head
ok so now they’re having elicia replace rush valley baby arc
this was winry’s time to shine in fmab i miss her
if winry isnt here who is gonna birth this baby
oh my god they just realized ed can use alchemy without a circle
no wonder he’s been using circles this whole time
SO ELICIA JUST POPPED OUT????? WHAT
STUFF ALEXANDER IN THE ARMOR AND PRETEND YOURE A TALKING DOG???
“i dont think thats very funny” NO ALPHONSE IT IS NOT
THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING WITH THAT ONE I SWEAR TO GOD IN THIS ESSAY I WILL
damn bradley what up homie
im so thrown off by the way theyre doing the exam omg
seriously what the hell is fuhrer bradley’s purpose right now is he even the fuhrer in this i feel like they wouldve mentioned it
oh lord ed is about to impress everyone with his clappy hands
ok so next episode is nina FUCK
episode 7: night of the chimera’s cry
havoc babeeee
im gonna marry him my himbo king
also can RIZA DO SOMETHING PLZ
“huhhhhhhhh nina” ew tucker that was weirdly gross
wonder why
cant do it cant do it
do we think jean kirstein was modeled after jean havoc slightly looks wise
was that purposeful
ill have to google
serial killer who only targets women? it cant be scar...scar drinks respect women juice
barry or slicer bros maybe? um ok
why did we start with liore if they were just gonna hop right back into the past for a huge chunk of episodes idk
assessment day??? oh noodles
AL WHY DID YOU TELL TUCKER TO MAKE ANOTHER TALKING CHIMERA ALPHONSE NO
THE NOISE I EMITTED IM GONNA TAKE A LAP
im gonna FUCKING SCREAM
ed r u writing to winry??? that’s a bit out of character for u good sir
no tucker put that baby down
im gonna fucking SCREAM
aww he burned nina’s picture thats not sus at all
SHESKA!!!!!
wait does the ironblood alchemist know what tucker did to his wife? thats kinda the vibe im getting
SCARRRRRRRR
looking like a pirate too damn
his voice sounds different is that j michael tatum
apparently not it was dameon clarke in 03 ya learn something new everyday
ew elicia has a lot of hair for a FUCKING NEWBORN
ed really is such a cynic very suspicious of everyone as he should be really
basque grand knowS SOMETHING
oh jesus oh fuck oh god please do not TOUCH THAT BABY
ed and al snuck back in to the house well u know what its for the best
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
im gonna cry again please god no
FUCKING DIE SHIT HOLE
she’s hurting? oh my god
my sweet angel
ew his eyes!!!!!!!
tucker is such a fucking failure...like look at the chimera squad and greed’s theatre troupe being the way they are. ugh it really hits how fucking unfair it is
ed was really about to split them? boy you know better
where is nina going...im hurting
ed really tried to save her in this one
SCAR KILLS NINA IN THE STREETS???????? SIR
thats different
oh snap
oh FUCK
SCAR WHY DID YOU LEAVE HER BODY LIKE THAT
THE WAY SHE WAS ARRANGED ON THE WALL THAT WAS FUCKED UP
AND THEY FOUND HER LIKE THAT???? AT LEAST IN BROTHERHOOD THEY DIDNT HVE TO SEE HER CORPSE ARE YOU SHITTING ME?
that was fucked.
episode 8: the philosopher’s stone
can yall get ed and al away from nina’s fucking MURAL
get out of the car mustang
finally jesus christ
roy mustang talking about healthy coping mechanisms dont make me laugh but alright baby boy go off i guess?
im curious about who this goddamn serial killer is though lets turn to that plot thread
r u kidding me
mustang is making ed and al take over tucker’s research?? thats actually wildly messed up
oh tucker was straight executed that’s a choice i guess
tucker and the philosopher’s stone sounds inaccurate but ok
ed please stop being mean to your brother
03 mustang has got me reaching for a fucking baseball bat on GOD
scar and edward having this conversation right now i literally cannot
WINRY yes bitch
BRADLEY WHAT IN TARNATION
JESUS LORRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD
alphonse shut your mouthhhhhhhhhhh
im so confused what is bradley up to
“alchemists are not cold blooded murderers?”
i mean
kimblee would beg to differ for one
whos this creepy lady
her voice sounds familiar
barry’s food shop?
the killer is barry ok got it
IS BARRY DISGUISED AS A WOMAN
I KNEW THAT WAS JERRY JEWELL’S VOICE
WELL I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR AT LEAST
WINRY GET OUT OF THE FUCKING TRUCk
has PINAKO TAUGHT YOU NOTHING
ok so i VASTLY prefer suit of armor original manga canon barry
this is such an odd plot what in fuck
um OW the meat cleaver
im so confused this fucking plotline
oh hey alphonse nice of you to show up!
is barry still gonna become a suit of armor later on
it makes NO SENSE to introduce him otherwise
everytime i see 03 mustang i wanna beat his ass HONESTLY
literally i will shove my foot up his ass
fullmetal here we go
ed thinks he’s so punk rock
oh great scar’s seen the watch
episode 9: be thou for the people
ed you simp buying winry all this stuff my edwin heart is ascending
SIMP SIMP SIMP
“mr. elric��?? you mean MAJOR ELRIC
to be fair though fuck the military
YOUSWELL??? oh LORD
im gonna need to read a full chronology of this show
alphonse continues to be a precious angel
where’s my boy yoki!!!!!
edward you idiot don’t go flaunting your money
woof woof ed
al looks so offended by ed saying they just met
whereas in brotherhood didnt he totally throw ed under the bus???
a choice to be sure
ah there he is hello yoki
who’s the chick
shes a lesbian
yoki makes me miss my baby girl mei chang
mei where r u
WAS THIS MILITARY DUDE REALLY ABOUT TO CUT DOWN A CHILD??? oh my god
hawkeye getting a promotion yes bby girl
jesus theyre transferring them to east now OKKKKKAY thats not how it happened it the book but ill take it....just doing it the opposite way i guess
who is lyra who is she
cute some military bribery
umm lyra what the fuck did you do
lyra is a homunculus im callin it now
they definitely invented/changed up some homunculi in fact im certain they did and shes one of em. gotta be
i feel like 03 wrote ed as much more insensitive towards others than he really is...just a vibe im getting
i know he was faking for the townspeople’s sake but i still get this vibe from other instances
i mean i cant say its not “canon” because its 03 canon
anyways what a show off
i cant believe theyre going to east...fuery and breda better be there
ok finally some answers on their ages....ed got his license at 12 like normal and nina and youswell were when he was 12...liore was 15,
if they didnt flash the ages on the screen id be lost honestly
at least we’re back up to “present day”
episode 10: the phantom thief
ed saying he doesnt wanna see mustang
same
03 mustang is activating my fight or flight and im choosing fight
ed cheating at cards totally checks out
um who the fuck is this woman
what is she wearing
SERIOUSLY WHAT IS THAT CUTOUT MAAM HOW DO YOUR C**CHY LIPS NOT POKE OUT
idk but this is fem!hisoka
“hey shouldnt we talk first” after getting handcuffed??? christ almighty these innuendos
siren??????? siren is probably also a “fake” homunculus
ugh
ok so the nurse is siren
ya aint slick girly
alphonse control your crush
I REFUSE!!!! ALMEI RIGHTS
why is al’s hair so brown in this flashback anywayssss
oh its spelled psiren ope
like she’s literally a batman villain...
oh my god...............the tiddy grab. my son would never
my son is respectful
is this her homunculus tat or just a random alchemy tat
the added plotlines and original content continue to confuse and astound me every single time....
ok but if psiren really was doing this for the hospital she wouldnt be so flashy about it. like thats how you get caught sweet cheeks
girly stop flirting with this child on god im gonna fucking kick you
now shes a nun????????????????
Shes a fucking troll i hate her
im going to kick alphonse into the sun
oh great now shes a teacher
wow shes a savior. the savior of amestrian venice. greatttttt
ed looking exactly like this emoji on this gondola rn 🧍♀️
STOP FLIRTING WITH THE CHILD
GOD THIS IS SO BATMAN VILLAIN ESQUE
alphonse plzzzzzzzzzz she aint your girl
ok so probably not the last we see of this ding dong con artist
ok so its starting to get muddy. im scared the 03 stans are gonna come after me like i do like it and im having fun watching it but some of the plot and characterization choices are just....odd??? idk i gotta keep going though!! im sorry i just stan arakawa and her work in all her glory!!!
#carol watches fma03#fullmetal alchemist#carol's remaining brain cells#this is fun for me and no one else#whatever i dont care about anyone else on this website anyway#this is my stupid hole
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