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March 9th-March 15th, 2020 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from March 9th, 2020 to March 15th, 2020. The chat focused on HoverGirls by Geneva Bowers.

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BOOK CLUB START!

Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on HoverGirls by Geneva Bowers~! (https://hovergirls.com/)

You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace until March 15th, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Discussions are freeform, but we do offer discussion prompts in the pins for those who’d like to have them. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic! Whether you finish the comic or can only read a few pages, everyone is welcome to join and chat with us!

DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 1

1. What did you like about the beginning of the comic?

2. What has been your favorite moment in the comic (so far)?

3. Who is your favorite character?

4. Which characters do like seeing interact the most?

5. What is something you like about the art? If you have a favorite illustration, please share it!

6. What is a theme you like that the comic explores?

7. What do you like about the comic’s story or overall related content?

8. Overall, what do you think the comic’s strengths are?

Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

It's so eye catching!

The bold color scheme immediately creates a strong identity for the comic

The contrast between the two MCs is

I'll comment more when I've read past literally just the first page lol

eli [a winged tale]

Wow I love the art! Very beautiful palette and interesting characters right off the bat (pun intended!). Great dynamics between our two mains and love the magic so far!

mcapriglione (Falconhyrste)

yall I heard you were talking about hover girls and I came running

I just caught up like yesterday because I'm sick so I've spent the whole day reading comics, also I picked up a physical copy from geneva at c2e2 and that's what got me started on the series!

What stands out to me so much is the characters, jalissa and kim are total opposites, and it's really interesting to see them interact with each other. also the little things in the background that tell more about the characters, like jalissa's love for soap operas and kim's references ahaha

RebelVampire

So time for me to jump into the chat. What I like about the beginning is that it starts you off with this sort of beautiful artwork and magical feel, only to drop the mundane on you with the coffee shop and the obsession with ranking on social media. Something about how this starts really gives me this sort of more modern day magical girl feel that usually isn't quite there. Like it's a bit gritty feeling cause life is gritty, and I like that. As for favorite moment in the comic so far, I'm partial to when the girls discovered their powers. I like how it just sort of happened, and the different reactions they had to it. It was both magical and funny. Also for the reasons below. My favorite character is Jalissa, no content. Jalissa is basically my spirit animal. Doesn't want fame, just wants to catch up on the soaps, but somehow winds up with more energetic people. All of Jalissa's reactions to everything are great and I love it. For characters interacting, really it has to go to Jalissa and Kim. They're such polar opposites I think you'd have to try to NOT enjoy it. But either way, that opposites thing really just makes their interactions endearing and interesting since going in you know they'll disagree and yet somehow wind up doing the same thing together anyway. So I really enjoy that about their relationship.

As for the art, I really just love the color design combined with the style. It has a very whimsical feel that works for the abundant blue schemes and I really just adore every bit of the atmosphere it creates. For themes, I like that the comic explores ego. Like that moment where Kim asked if she was getting too full of herself really hit home. And I like that the comic kind of explores that even if you know that you might get egotistical and all high and mighty, its not the easiest thing in the world to stop either. For the story's overall content, I'm just gonna point to what I liked about the beginning. I like that its a bit more mature, modernized magical girl story where the magical girls are adults. That's probably just bias in that I'm an adult so I relate more to adults.

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DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 2

9. What do you think Jalissa’s backstory and relationship with her family is? How do you think Jalissa will continue to change as the story progresses, and what will Kim’s role be in it? Further, how will Kim change?

10. Why do you think Kim was suddenly possessed, and how dangerous are they? Can Kim be saved from it? Additionally, why was the person who possessed Kim surprised Jalissa also had powers?

11. Do you think Jalissa and Kim will succeed as magical girls and become popular? Why or why not? Additionally, how might this change the future plans each has decided upon for their career?

12. What do you think this comic teaches us about pursuing our dreams and responsibility? What has been your favorite moment in the comic so far that deals with these themes? Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!

gee

Hello CTP! This is the creator of HoverGirls c: I want to thank you all for taking the time to read and discuss this comic! I bet you're all pros at what makes a good story, so it's really humbling to know that it's liked so far. I'll be happy to answer any q's about story, chars, etc. And it was super nice to finally meet you @mcapriglione (Falconhyrste) and hope you feel better!

mcapriglione (Falconhyrste)

Aaaaa hey welcome to the chat @gee !

Tantz Aerine (Without Moonlight)

Ok I just finished reading the entire comic start to finish. I have to say I'm not only impressed by the wonderful art and refreshing color scheme that makes me think of wild summer, but amazed that I find myself invested in this story! Usually it's not my cup of tea at all, but Hover Girls are going to clearly be the exception. I'm adding this to my comic bookmarks The first thing I have to give my kudos for is the sheer character design and characterization. I had sincere, and in Kim's case, almost visceral reactions to both girls, and the Korean guy (his name sounds Korean). While Jalissa intrigued me from the start, Kim got under my skin to the point I found her insufferable! It is only in the last few pages with her backstory flashback that I somewhat feel sympathy for her. I love the interaction between these two, and also how the story is paced so that we get to gradually become aware of more layers and nuance in the relationship they have. Jalissa's love and concern for Kim was clear to me from the start, while Kim's not so much. She (Kim) came across to me as immature, self-centered and inconsiderate. Later, when we see more of their history, I got to see the concern and love from Kim's side too. That's excellent writing to go with the excellent art. I also really like the premise with the alien creatures! I am intrigued and want to know more. Finally, I want to talk about the humour in the dialogue and the art in general. I love how there's a streak of black humour throughout the comic. My favourite character is (in case you didn't infer it yet) Jalissa, but I like the entire cast. They need each other to organically bounce off each other and develop. And lastly, I have to mention the really fun brand names and soap titles. Always makes me grin. Wonderful work @gee !(edited)

RebelVampire

I get the impression that Jalissa was a typical delinquent and that her parents werent around much - hence the delinquency. And so I imagine it's a bit strained at the best of it. I think Jalissa moving is her attempt to turn things around, and I think that is what will happen. Jalissa will become more responsible, take more of a sense of duty, etc. Which is what I think will happen with Kim, along with a healthy dose of gaining some humility. As for why Kim was suddenly possessed, maybe the weather? Regardless, 100% I'm sure Kim can be saved. Only bad villains monologue so Kim got taken over by a bad villain. As for why Jalissa's powers are a surprise, probably a lack of communication due to alien bureaucracy. Jalissa and Kim will definitely succeed as magical girls if you tone down expectations to be heroes who fight crime as opposed to what we see in every anime where they fight and just are completely fine and sparkly. As for becoming popular, maybe for a bit, but honestly, probably not. The internet is fickle so sure they might get a viral video....but then everyone will move on. I think it will mostly only change Jalissa's plans as she's finds there are more important things in the world than soaps. As for what the comic teaches about pursuing our dreams is that it's hard. My favorite moment is actually Kim checking if anyone liked the pic and it was just Jalissa. The world is saturated with talent, and even if you have the drive, the skills, etc., getting noticed is kind of a slog. But I think Kim shows us at least might as well keep trying.

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

I had the opposite reaction as @Tantz Aerine (Without Moonlight) ! Jalissa irritated me at first, while I liked Kim. But then, when I saw Jalissa's genuine kindness, I liked her more, and when Kim started showing her flaws- how she's kind of self-centered and naive, I started to like her less. That's not to say I think this comic has bad writing, though! I like how the author has given everyone such realistic flaws. I went through a lot of cycles of liking and disliking the characters, and I think that reflects how it feels as you get to know some people irl. These characters are complex!

Seeing stoic Jalissa get truly angry at Kim was powerful.

I like the detail of Jalissa keeping her bat in her backpack's water bottle holder

"Only bad villains monologue so Kim got taken over by a bad villain. "

Rebel, that made me laugh

I think it's true too(edited)

chalcara [Nyx+Nyssa]

+ü´´´´´´b n#ä+ß

Tantz Aerine (Without Moonlight)

@Eightfish (Puppeteer) it's exactly that we get different and real reactions to these characters that is the proof of excellent writing. We react differently, but we react as if they were real people and that's an absolute win!

mathtans

Woo, my schedule's eased a bit and this looked interesting. For the discussion prompts...

1. The beginning set things up well in terms of a quickie fight and then the characters and city situation. There was humour in that too. Good tone.

2. Fave moment, as far as plot was probably Jalissa interacting with blonde boy (sorry, forget the name) in particular because it seemed to be foreshadowing. Fave moment for relatability was the phone message with "Get to the point" because I SO relate to that.

3. Tough call on character. Both mains have good qualities and I don't feel I know the others well enough yet. I suppose Jalissa for her straightforward nature and sticking to her guns (like about dresses).

4. I liked Jalissa and Blonde Boy interacting, funny enough, as I said earlier. The cousin banter is good but the former stood out somehow.

5. The art's a neat blend of emphasis in some places and less in others; also interesting how the hair is done. Not sure why that sticks out.

6. I'm very bad at noticing themes. It's neat showing what "magical girls" do in their off hours. Also the troubles with getting noticed.

7. Story's clever, and I felt suspicious of Blonde Boy from him being around during the powers acquisition, which seems to be paying off. Nice to see ladies of colour too.

mathtans

8. Comic's got a bit of everything. Magic, mystery, slice-of-life... a reader can probably gravitate to something.

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DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 3

13. What are you most looking forward to seeing in regards to the comic?

14. Any final words of encouragement for the comic? Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!

mathtans

9. Jalissa seems to be someone who grew up in a difficult situation and needs to blow off steam sometimes. I'm reminded of the time she punched the wall - but then within a day went to get the materials needed to fix it. I feel like she had an unhappy home life with no real outlet or people to talk to about it. Maybe the fighting evil will help, or at least give her a sense of accomplishment. Kim needs to be a bit more grounded in reality, and I suspect will, although at the same time you kind of hate to see it happen, like the death of innocence or something.

10. I wondered if possession was always part of the plan against Kim (once it happened), and that's why the water beings were around, like they're trying to get access to the powers... though it's seeming like it was always something inside her, she was simply able to suppress the feeling for a time. Until she was at a low point emotionally.

Actually, I always thought BlondeBoy had something to do with the attacks, and in the scene between him and Jalissa (the earlier one in the alley) you saw hint of blue in the art, and one wonders whether he was acting normally. I wasn't sure if it was a subconscious thing or a conscious thing. Now I wonder if Kim wasn't manifesting the items herself on some subconscious level, wanting something to defeat. Though maybe he still had a hand in it too.

Of course, maybe the weather has something to do with it too, as Rebel remarked on.

mathtans

11. I feel like their power as magical girls is possibly tied to the presence (or at least strength) of the enemy, otherwise why wouldn't it make the news more? (Granted, could be obliviousness by the populace, but this seems to be reinforced by the current plot elements.) As such, their magical days seem numbered... unless they could fight against regular mundane foes? I dunno. The world doesn't seem to care much about supernatural either.

mathtans

Maybe they should change their name? Hovering doesn't sound too aggressive, and I don't think they do it that much anyway. Granted, DampGirls isn't catchy, and H2OGirls is a bit clinical. ^.^

snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)

I love this comic! The two main characters play incredibly off each other, and there's lots of great comedic moments. My fav is Jalissa.

I wonder if it is the weather that's causing these possessions? Because, like, the flying fish attacks in general are tied to the rain. Maybe particularly rough rainstorms cause possessions? I feel like the thing that possessed Kim and the boy was what brought about the powers in the first place - the energy that came down from the sky on the beach. It's odd how the blonde dude didn't seem to use powers but got possessed first, while Kim uses her powers the most and got possessed second... maybe Jalissa has an easier time resisting because she has the strongest will?

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

@snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights) I don't think Jalissa can get possessed- Bob said that his soul was split in two, and Jalissa got the powers while Korean guy got the mind

snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)

ah yes, that's true

Eightfish (Puppeteer)

@mathtans I like "Hovergirls"! It's cute and catchy

gee

The title I still don't 100% like, TBH. I legitimately thought on it for a week before starting on this comic and still couldn't think of anything better XD

RebelVampire

What I'm most looking forward to in the comic is probably just more Jalissa in general and finding out why Jalissa is the way Jalissa is. Overall though, this is a beautiful comic with a great combination between modernization and magical girls with just the right hint of maturity that makes it more appealing for an adult. Definitely would recommend to adult fans of magical girl stories!

mathtans

To be clear, I had no issue with the title of the comic... with some comics there's only an offhand reference too. I guess I was more picturing the ladies arguing, were Jalissa to get more into it.

As to the rest of the questions, I think the comic can show that reality is somewhere between the two of them (though they do play off each other very well) as far as dreams and responsibility go. I'm vaguely curious to know whether the alien might be having a positive (or negative?) influence on BlondeBoy, who seemed a bit of a jerk from the lens of the others.

The world building is well done too, like I could even see spinoffs... these aliens apparently just sent a couple emissaries to Earth, maybe there's some sort of space force out there fighting too. Maybe they see Kim's videos and want to recruit her. Or hire her for public relations. idk.

Anyway, looks great, definitely an interesting read and nice showcasing of things you don't see other places, best with it!

gee

Huge thank you all CTP group for giving HoverGirls a read! I cannot thank you enough for giving your time and thoughts on this story and it’s been incredibly helpful and encouraging!!

snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)

It was a great read, gee!

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BOOK CLUB END!

Thank you everyone so much for reading and chatting about HoverGirls this week! Please also give a special thank you to Geneva Bowers for volunteering the comic and creating it! If you liked HoverGirls, make sure to continue to support it via some of the links below!

Read and Comment: https://hovergirls.com/

Geneva’s Store: https://gdbee.store/

Geneva’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/gdbeeart

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spotlightsaga · 7 years ago

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Kevin Cage of @spotlightsaga reviews... Riverdale /S01\/E10\ Chapter 10: The Lost Weekend Airdate: April 13, 2017 @cwnetwork Ratings: 0.872 Million :: 0.32 18-49 Demo Share Score: 8.5/10 @riverdaleseries @archiecomics TVTime/FB/Twitter/IG/Tumblr/Path/Pin: @SpotlightSaga **********SPOILERS BELOW********** Four Months late isn't too bad, right? See, in Miami, it's never cute to be the first person at the party, and really the party never ends until someone actually says it does... And clearly the Riverdale Party is still very much in full swing. So consider this 10th Entry 'Riverdale Revisit'; the after party to end all after parties. Of course, we're going to be set up for S2 when it goes live. This is definitely not one of the tv shows that Spotlight Saga will be dropping in the coming, world famous, 'fall tv' season frenzy. But don't get it twisted, there are many on the chopping block... OUR chopping block. We're looking at what gets our blood pumping and our thoughts racing, giving us something more to talk about than "Last Night on ___insert uninspired show number #45 here___." 'Riverdale' has made a massive stir across social media and of course on The CW & their worldwide dominating partner, Netflix, as well. I love that due to streaming, the new large amounts of cash pouring in from its subsequent deals, and actually several generations full of 'cord cutters', there are no longer rules to watching and writing about television series and films... Get to them when you can, some will watch them live, some will stream them later, some will wait until they can binge them all at once like a Weekend Warrior with a pocket full of Ecstasy and a head full of hallucinogens. It's our world now, and CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, and more (or less) importantly 'Nielsen Holdings', no longer control what, when, where, why, and how much. Smell that? That's the sweet smell of change... And the remnants of murder and sticky maple syrup, obvi. Ive been extremely careful not to overpraise 'Riverdale' in the past. Similar series have only led to frustration or feelings of complete frustration. Its hard to know what to expect from a show like this in the near future... We all saw the demise of similar series like 'Pretty Little Liars' and other shows that run through the same type of vein... Kind of like many of the other ones attempted over at the now defunct ABC Family where PLL first started. Like The WB, UPN, and now The CW, ABC Family has also gone through a newly rebranding process that didn't do much to help the sinking ship they now call Freeform TV... A network that only 'The Fosters' and its cheesy sister show 'Shadowhunters' seem to be keeping afloat. We aren't being negative, we're being real... And when you're at a party, or in this case, 'After Party', you've got to be real. You just gotta... Even if no one ever wanted the party in the first place. If you don't know what I mean, let me spell it out for you. Ready? Set? Spell! Ah fuck it, we'll just spill the tea... 'Let's have a Kiki! Lock the doors tight!' I sometimes wonder if my obscure pop culture references I often sneak into these articles ever actually connect. They probably don't, but to that one person that got it, FUCK YEAH! It's the birthday of Jughead (Cole Sprouse)... And much like the very similar, fellow female counterpart, Sheila the She-Wolf, another introverted style character from 'Riverdale's sister show on Netflix, 'GLOW'... Jughead is not really into parties and/or making a big fuss about a birthday or bringing any unnecessary & unwanted attention to his person. Unfortunately for Betty (Lili Reinhart), Jughead isn't really big on camaraderie, most definitely not in the spirit equivalent to the 'Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling'! The reasons behind throwing these two characters' each their own impromptu birthday bashes on their respective tv shows are done for totally different reasons. With 'GLOW', it was slightly annoying at first (for Sheila, anyway), but eventually it turned from an apprehensive & anxiety filled event to a touching, sweet moment, where a closed off character had a major breakthrough that was captured in the perfect beam of light, allowing a significant development and enabling an insight into another character's backstory, bringing the whole cast together for the most part. In a great juxtaposition, on 'Riverdale', the psychology behind this one is actually much, much different... It's still got the 'trepidatious yet possible potential for a surprise moment of gratification' aspect down to a certain degree, but it doesn't go down the path of the balmy & charming. The reasoning behind Betty's sudden obsession to give Jughead the party that he never wanted, and the background as to why he's so against the idea in the first place certainly doesn't inspire camaraderie or any kind of 'feel good' moments, especially at the party itself. If anything, the intent is slightly bordering on the side of creepy. Riverdale?! Creepy?!? Yup! Keep up! It's only getting creepier. You see... We've been up on 'Riverdale' and then back down, and then back up and down again... And I think everyone here will openly admit that it's mostly due to a shaky CW track record, as well as similar networks just like it, though there has been a few inconsistencies outside of this oddball tone & beautiful color scheme we're always raving about. However, when the show fully embraces its complete and total anomalous, almost freakish eccentricities, we all just fall right back in love with the show again. It's episodes like 'Chapter 10: The Lost Weekend' that completely make us forget about past network follies and shows like PLL completely losing their way after gaining our trust and enthusiasm in its beginning stages. Reinhart is effortlessly serving up 'Bizarre, Bilateral, Betty Bananas' like a full-on, award ready, seasoned vet. Seriously, I don't want to blow too much smoke up the kid's ass, but I'm pretty sure her breakthrough performance here would even make the likes of decorated actress such as Nicole Kidman proud. Betty Cooper has a duality that Reinhart not only highlights with strong, hearty performances... But it's also the efforts of Director Dawn Williamson, a phenomenal Art Department (you guys KICK MAJOR ASS), Cinematographer Stephen Jackson (this guy was award-worthy in this episode), and Costume & Wardrobe (hell, everyone involved in the smallest, minute details) framed from shot to shot... The absurdity of how tight & perfectly situated her ponytail is, how hard she clenches her hands (leaving scratch marks on her palms), even the way she holds the cake & dawns the signature 'Jughead Crown', to whoever made the call of having those weirdo party goers in horse masks in the background - Good call, guys! That was freaking CRAZY! It's all those little things that make the picture such a pleasure to watch... Turning what seems like a normal teen drama at first glance, to a finely tuned, surprisingly compelling theatrical spectacle. The crazy is in full on abundance, though... It's not just Betty. Suddenly after a string of a few disappointing episodes, I come back after a break and either see things in a totally different light, or it could be that this was just slowly building right under our noses the whole time, or *the most plausible of all three options* is that the ironically lowest rated episode of the series, according to the great analysts over at Nielsen, is actually the most technically sound, character driven, insanely atmospheric entry of the entire 1st Season. Veronica Lodge (Camila Mendes) finally lets go of some deep resentments she's been bottling up and goes after Cheryl Blossom (Madelaine Petsch). This is a task that I wouldn't suggest to any person of sound or capable mind to attempt in any way, shape, fashion, or form. The act is crazy in and of itself, and pissing off the 'Ravishing Redhead' that literally wears the letters 'HBIC' on the back of her cheerleading uniform, that's 'Head Bitch in Charge' for anyone too young or too old to remember Tiffany Pollard of VH1's 'I Love New York', is obviously going to lead to a backlash that Veronica won't likely forget. Sure she might get her big 'W' now, but we must remind you... There's no 'W' in 'HBIC'. Meanwhile, Cole Sprouse & Skeet Ulrich, who plays Serpent Gangster FP Jones & Jughead's father on the show, are literally close to actually convincing me that they are really father and son in real life. The little ticks and nuances that they share are out of this fn' world insane. Either these two have spent a week in a trailer together mirroring their every move or we seriously need to ring in Maury Povich for a DNA Test! Oh, and apparently there's some guy on the show named Archie Andrews (KJ Apa)... The only drawback is that they've failed to make the main protagonist (is he tho?) even remotely interesting. He's good looking, but he's not a convincing redhead, and I'm still not hooked into his arc. Hey, that's ok... Enter Mary Andrews (Molly Ringwald - ChaChing!), Archie's long lost mother. So nice of you to finally drop in, Molly! Fred Andrews (Luke Perry) is ready to finalize the divorce, but we're just biting on all the possibly juicy dramatic scenarios! Who is Archie again? Back at the party, that burgeoning rivalry between Veronica and Cheryl hits its boiling point when Veronica gets a bit too carried away and accuses Cheryl and her deceased brother Jason (Trevor Stines) of having an incestious affair. Ah, gotta love seedy underbelly of the United States! The more money, the crazier the family!!! Oh but there's more! Good ol' All-American Chuck (Jordan Calloway), who actually WAS almost boiled alive, attempts to out Betty on her 'Dr. Jeckyl/Ms. Hyde' issue that surfaced when a hot tub prank got a bit too out of hand earlier in the season. To our surprise, and viewer delight, Jughead and his Dad actually had a moment, which was completely unexpected, yet felt completely real. Like I said before, Ulrich & Sprouse have stellar chemistry, and the writers seem to know this and obviously derive great pleasure in giving us this moment where the two aren't at total odds and Jughead not only carefully considers, but actually takes his biological father's advice... Providing solid proof that the series isn't trying to meander or stretch out any unnecessary storylines at all. No disrespect to fans of other series broadcast on The CW, but clearly this isn't 'The Flash'. These storylines seem to be heading into important territory at a reasonable pace, and not just hanging around to fulfill an episode number requested by an executive to make sure ad-space quotas are filled... Although I have considered that this could be an issue that the show could run into in its expanded 22-Episode Run that it's been greenlit for S2. There's plenty of juicy drama to go around, but when we see that drama making moves instead of being drawn out, then you know you've got a potentially good show on your hands. For now, 'Riverdale' is back on a solid trajectory, delivering what appears to be a set-up episode for the impending S1 finale... A set-up episode that was easily the most consistent entry to date from start to finish. The impression that an episode as good as this exists to move its characters like chess pieces, seemingly just to put everyone in place for the final three episodes is an exciting notion for the last 3 hours of S1 of 'Riverdale' to come!

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ao3feed-danganronpa · 4 years ago

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yes, this is another chat fic

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2A78NMA

by V4rucas3lt

woahhhh, the story of undertale

Words: 434, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Dangan Ronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Categories: F/F, F/M, M/M

Characters: Maizono Sayaka, Ikusaba Mukuro, Fujisaki Chihiro, Oowada Mondo, Yamada Hifumi, Ishimaru Kiyotaka, Celestia Ludenberg, Grand Bois Chéri Ludenberg, Ogami Sakura, Asahina Aoi, Fukawa Touko, Hagakure Yasuhiro, Kirigiri Kyouko, Naegi Makoto, Togami Byakuya, Naegi Komaru, Enoshima Junko, Kuwata Leon

Relationships: Oowada Mondo/Togami Byakuya, Kirigiri Kyoko/Celestia Ludenberg, Asahina Aoi/Ogami Sakura, Ikusaba Mukuro/Maizono Sayaka, Fukawa Touko/Naegi Komaru, Kuwata Leon/Maizono Sayaka, Asahina Aoi & Togami Byakuya, they're friends!, Ishimaru Kiyotaka/Oowada Mondo (one sided), Kuwata Leon/Togami Byakuya (mild), Asahina Aoi/Kirigiri Kyoko (mild)

Additional Tags: No Incest, togami needs a hug, Angst, nobody is straight, except for hifumi, but fuck hifumi amiright, tagging is hard, Probably ooc, hahaha sex funny, ishimaru is gonna be sad, im sorry, aoi and byakuya are friends because, toko is less of a pushover, shes still a pushover, shes also not as obsessed with byakuya cause i said so, mukuro isnt obsessed with junko, i also completely forgot junko existed for a second, let me go add her to the tags, junko doesnt get an s/o because she sucks haha, aoi is supportive, Coming Out, Fluff, sayaka isnt fake, the killing game never happened and they're all alive cuz i said so, yes - Freeform, the cats mentioned, bi sayaka, lesbian mukuro, straight hifumi...., Lesbian Celeste, bi sakura, bi asahina (female lean), bi mondo (male lean), bi toko, pan yasuhiro, bi kyoko, bi makoto, gay byakuya, lesbian komaru, bi junko but that doesnt matter because she doesnt deserve love, Slow Burn, no relationships are already established except for kyoko/celeste, bi chihiro, enby chihiro, asexual chihiro, Trans Character, it might be byakuya, I'll think about it, gay kiyotaka, asexual kiyotaka, bi leon, togami has emotions okay, IM SORRY IF MOST OF THESE TAGS R ABOUT TOGAMI, I love him, kiyotaka x rules hahahah, chihiro is sweet, but i still dont like him, Anyways, byakuya and aoi r best brotp tell me different, leons annoying, kiyotaka and chi and mondo are best friends, byakuya and hiro are also friends, OH WAIT BYAKUYA AND CELESTE ARE ALSO BEST BROTP, i need help coming up with usernames, junko isnt obsessed with despair, mondo yells a lot, and threatens people, and fights people, but its ok cause hes hot, leon doesnt know grammar, kuya can sing

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2A78NMA

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ao3feed-yowzah · 6 years ago

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by bella_swan_deserved_better

One kind

One shy

One evil

Those are the personalities of each sister. A face that is shared upon three different girls.

Before she was River Song, Mels had triplets with an unknown man and put them up for adoption. She's never looked for them ever since.

These sisters were adopted but tragedy separated each of them, making them grow up in different places and with different families.

Now destiny will bring them together.

But it might cause tragedy upon each sister.

Words: 1439, Chapters: 2/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Doctor Who (2005)

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

Categories: F/M

Characters: Amy Pond (Doctor Who), Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor, River Song, Melody Pond, Madame Kovarian (Doctor Who)

Relationships: Amy Pond/Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor/River Song

Additional Tags: OCs - Freeform, I got the idea from a show, It involved identical triplets, so here ya go, Mels had a one night stand and Madame Kovarian is pissed, Identical triplets, Separate Childhoods, Seperated siblings, A LOT of Angst, somewhat incest, Two of them were basically kidnapped, Mels is in for a surprise because of what she promised Kovarian, This somewhat follows the telenovela but with major differences, One of them being this is doctor who and crud, Almost forgot that there will be murder, One sibling is evil of course, Secrets kept from the two that were lost, Basically they don't know about being basically kidnapped kids, It gets creepy since it's between the daughter and her "adoptive" father, He aint her dad really but she doesn't know that, Obsessive Behavior, Murder, The evil one loves her dad too much honestly, It was like that in the show, Mels hopes her kids are alright, River really hopes they're ok, Not knowing one grew up hating her, Somewhat really, Rory lost his v-card to someone before Amy got the chance, I swear it ain't who ya think it'd be

#IFTTT #ao3feed #fanfic #doctor who #river song #eleventh doctor #yowzah

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ao3feed-elevenriver · 6 years ago

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The Lost Sisters

read it on AO3 at http://bit.ly/2WJEtOu

by bella_swan_deserved_better

One kind

One shy

One evil

Those are the personalities of each sister. A face that is shared upon three different girls.

Before she was River Song, Mels had triplets with an unknown man and put them up for adoption. She's never looked for them ever since.

These sisters were adopted but tragedy separated each of them, making them grow up in different places and with different families.

Now destiny will bring them together.

But it might cause tragedy upon each sister.

Words: 1439, Chapters: 2/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Doctor Who (2005)

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

Categories: F/M

Characters: Amy Pond (Doctor Who), Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor, River Song, Melody Pond, Madame Kovarian (Doctor Who)

Relationships: Amy Pond/Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor/River Song

read it on AO3 at http://bit.ly/2WJEtOu

#ao3feed #fanfic #doctor who #eleventh doctor #river song #eleven/river

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ao3feed-riversong · 6 years ago

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The Lost Sisters

read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2WJEtOu

by bella_swan_deserved_better

One kind

One shy

One evil

Those are the personalities of each sister. A face that is shared upon three different girls.

Before she was River Song, Mels had triplets with an unknown man and put them up for adoption. She's never looked for them ever since.

These sisters were adopted but tragedy separated each of them, making them grow up in different places and with different families.

Now destiny will bring them together.

But it might cause tragedy upon each sister.

Words: 1439, Chapters: 2/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Doctor Who (2005)

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

Categories: F/M

Characters: Amy Pond (Doctor Who), Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor, River Song, Melody Pond, Madame Kovarian (Doctor Who)

Relationships: Amy Pond/Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor/River Song

read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2WJEtOu

#ao3feed #fanfic #river song

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ao3feed-doctorwho · 6 years ago

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The Lost Sisters

read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2WJEtOu

by bella_swan_deserved_better

One kind

One shy

One evil

Those are the personalities of each sister. A face that is shared upon three different girls.

Before she was River Song, Mels had triplets with an unknown man and put them up for adoption. She's never looked for them ever since.

These sisters were adopted but tragedy separated each of them, making them grow up in different places and with different families.

Now destiny will bring them together.

But it might cause tragedy upon each sister.

Words: 1439, Chapters: 2/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Doctor Who (2005)

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

Categories: F/M

Characters: Amy Pond (Doctor Who), Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor, River Song, Melody Pond, Madame Kovarian (Doctor Who)

Relationships: Amy Pond/Rory Williams, Eleventh Doctor/River Song

read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2WJEtOu

#IFTTT #ao3feed #fanfic #doctor who #dw

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ao3feed-destiel-02 · 1 month ago

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A Haunting Desire

A Haunting Desire https://ift.tt/cBoKmST by GypsyFae77 In a world of power and passion, Dean Winchester, the dominant Head Alpha of the most powerful shapeshifter wolf pack, is a natural leader who has never found an omega that truly stirs his soul—until Halloween night. Castiel Novak, a rare male omega and sensitive medium, embarks on a haunted house adventure with his family and friends. His unique connection to the spirit world draws dangerous attention from dark forces. When Dean and his loyal pack enter the house, he senses his True Mate—Castiel. As spirits within the house target Castiel, seeking to use his powers for their freedom, Dean steps in to protect him, igniting a fierce bond. However, the danger doesn't end with their escape. Castiel's powers have awakened fully, marking him as a beacon for the living and the dead. At the same time, a mysterious stalker covets Castiel for their own. Determined to protect his True Mate, Dean must face threats from both the physical and spiritual realms. In a race against time, they fight for their love as they uncover the terrifying truth about Castiel's connection to the supernatural, forcing Dean to risk everything—including his soul. Words: 1259, Chapters: 1/24, Language: English Fandoms: Supernatural (TV 2005) Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: F/M, M/M Characters: Dean Winchester, Castiel (Supernatural), Sam Winchester, Gabriel (Supernatural), Hannah (Supernatural), Michael (Supernatural), Crowley (Supernatural), Original Male Character(s), Charlie Bradbury, Ellen Harvelle, Bobby Singer (Supernatural), Missouri Moseley, Joshua (Supernatural), Lucifer (Supernatural), Lisa Braeden, God | Chuck Shurley, Becky Rosen, Jo Harvelle, Other Character Tags to Be Added, Garth Fitzgerald IV, Benny Lafitte, And others who might make an appearance I don't know yet, alternate universe/shifter Relationships: Castiel/Dean Winchester, Sam Winchester/Original Female Character(s) Additional Tags: Alpha/Omega, Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Wolf Pack, Shapeshifting, True Mates, Medium Castiel (Supernatural), Kidnapping, Stalking, Obsession, Omega Castiel/Alpha Dean Winchester, Alpha/Omega True Mate Bond, Protective Dean Winchester, Sassy Castiel (Supernatural), Castiel Loves Dean Winchester, Dean Winchester Loves Castiel, Castiel & Sam Winchester Friendship, Sam Winchester Ships Castiel/Dean Winchester, i don't know what else to put, this is my first fan fic, be kind, lol, and here I am writing an omegaverse, Not smart, oh well, Grammarly Checked, Knotting, POV Dean Winchester, POV Castiel (Supernatural), POV Multiple, i think, Maybe - Freeform, I don't know I'm trying to give you guys a good story for my first attempt, Ok...so happy reading! via AO3 works tagged 'Castiel/Dean Winchester' https://ift.tt/S8hwrO3 September 28, 2024 at 12:37AM

#IFTTT #AO3 works tagged 'Castiel/Dean Winchester'#Destiel #ao3feed #ao3feed Destiel #Destiel fanfic #Dean Winchester/Castiel #Castiel/Dean Winchester #Dean x Castiel #Castiel x Dean

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comicteaparty · 7 years ago

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April 12th, 2018 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on April 12th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on The Robonoid Fan by Mharz.

Featured Comment:

Chat:

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

COMIC TEA PARTY START!

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing The Robonoid Fan by Mharz~! (http://robonoid.mharz.com/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! As a bonus, each chat a top comment will be picked and featured in the archives and on an ad for CTP! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

snuffysam

The end is probably my favorite part. It's a sad ending, but it really shows how Meirin was able to change, and Shin wasn't.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i....i didnt even get to pin it before you replied

✨Respheal✨

snuffy was READY

🌟Draco Plato🌟

I liked seeing Meirin at work in the beginning, it reminded me of how fun interacting with customers was

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i liked the illustration for the end. there was something really melancholy about the composition

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

YO IS IT TIME FOR A MHARZ COMIC TO BE IN A CTP?

StickFreeks

I liked the ending too! It was a neat twist, I really wasn't expecting it.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yeah the ending was pretty good

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Oooh, boy. I HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT MY FAVORITE SCENE IN THIS I agree, it's the end scene. AAAAAAAAAAA Shin. Shin. Booooooooooooooooi. I was SO glad Meirin didn't respond in the affirmative for Shin. He was kind of a butt. I mean, he had potential for growth, but clearly didn't. AND I'm really honestly curious who the person he <Spoilered> was to him, and what relation they had. I wanna know!! But Shin, that doesn't... excuse anything.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

@draco meirin at work reminded me more of the parts of work where professionally jealousy is concerned even though your rivals are also your friends cause work politeness or something

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Also I read the epilogue in the book and let me tell you I felt so much better after reading it but also Shin never changes let me tell you

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Can i just say Shin has really nice hair

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

(OK, yes he does, but only when forced by circumstance)

StickFreeks

I had the idea that he got fired / replaced by somebody and that's what the drama was that led to his actions.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

@Rebel yeah there was that aspect of it too~

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

THAT SAID -- I also kind of wanted to see the two of them get together up until that last scene.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i thought shin needed therapy XD

son plz calm down

✨Respheal✨

@StickFreeks I agree: http://robonoid.mharz.com/comic/56

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Ahaha. Oh, I Thought that was the case, but was the replacement the same person that caused him to get arrested?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Damn adults.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i think it is implied its the same person maybe

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

And poor Shin, all the hell he goes through

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i mean its the logical conclusion to make

StickFreeks

I think he deserved his end, I didn't really feel bad for him.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

my favorite was merin watching robonoid, i'm sucker for that henshin stuff(edited)

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i liked that too delta

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i have to agree that was my fave scene. i liked watching meirin get legit excited about it and i liked she changed her opinion on the show just being for kids

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yeah, it's pretty cute

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin is adorable, though

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

@Kabo (I know right?)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

henshin shows can get fuckin dark, like garo and the OG kamren rider, they aint just for kids

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yus she is adorable~

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

^^^^^

Delta's right

StickFreeks

I couldn't tell if Shin was emulating Robonoid's hair or if they just had the same hair, but I was convinced that he was the "real" Robonoid for a good while.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

hahaha i thought that too. that shin was like the va or something and thats what he did for work XD

🌟Draco Plato🌟

same

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

he was probably emulating it, i know if i could wear a kamen rider helmet everyday i would

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

kek

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

gotta represent your favorite stuff

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yus

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

^^^

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I dunno, Shin was pretty rich. I think he WAS the actor. :3

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe he was, we could ask mharz later

StickFreeks

I thought he was blowing all his money after getting fired. XD

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i partly assumed his emulation was a representation of his fragile mental state. cause i feel shin desperately wanted to be the hero and not the bad guy. so gotta emulate a hero to reflect that

🌟Draco Plato🌟

same rebel

✨Respheal✨

Yeah

🌟Draco Plato🌟

he may have been rich in that he knew he was probably going to go to jail soon too

so just spent it up

✨Respheal✨

I was just thinking that he was trying to "take justice into his own hands, like a hero" and didn't have the adult recognition of where to draw the line(edited)

StickFreeks

I'm still unsure why he had the intent to kill somebody- like I know his "motive", but it seems unreasonable that he'd do something like that after trying to protect the kid.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

That seems fair

🌟Draco Plato🌟

super heroes don't generally kill people either

so it is a bit out of character perhaps

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well monster die in the end of henshin shows, maybe he saw them as the monster

🌟Draco Plato🌟

altho he also was obsessive and crazy

oh that could be delta

StickFreeks

It makes for a good story, I just wish that there was some more build up or representation of him getting to that line

outside of "adults are terrible"

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

like every episode the monster explodes once they've been beaten

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Pretty much

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeah i agree stick(edited)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah it did come outta now where for me

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i think as a reader I felt a biiit too detached from Shin to grasp his whole character picture

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

If memory serves, Mharz did note that this story was started in 2011 -- so it's an older work!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

since were seeing things though merin, we didn't really get everything about shin

StickFreeks

I think I was most confused by why he asked Meirin to "wait for him", since it seemed like they had just been friends for at most a couple of weeks

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i didnt find him killing unreasonable. partly 1 because we have the phrase crime of passion for a reason. even the most reasonable ppl can do dumb crap if theyre angry enough. and i think part of shin's character is that hes a hypocrite. so of course as a hypocrite hes going to do contraditory things.

yeah i have to say i was confused on the time scale here

StickFreeks

That's very true, he did have that "unexpected crazy", I just wish it was shown more. XD

Or in more drastic ways, anyway

✨Respheal✨

Hmm, I wonder why he was going by an alias the whole time

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

especially for when shin committed the crime. thats the only wrench i see in the victim being the guy who replaced shin. cause from shin's words it sounded like itd happen after he met meirin. but then why was shin there in the first place when he could probably afford a much better place to live?

✨Respheal✨

Might he have done things before?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Hnngh, IDK if the guy that Shin got arrested about was his replacement

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

merch can cost a lot rebel

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

it can but at that point, priorities man XD priorities

🌟Draco Plato🌟

also girl not going to wait for your ass shin, she knew you a month tops, you weren't even dating, and you going to jail for life

StickFreeks

Yeah seriously XD

🌟Draco Plato🌟

also still wondering if he drugged her

when he brought her back from the restaurant

ruffies are a thing

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Can... I talk about the epilogue?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

god that be fucked if so

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

or is that TOO spoilery?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i don't see why not kabo

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

AHAHAHHAA I wish Mharz was here XD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i do too

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

but lemme tell you -- Meirin continues to keep her common sense.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

wait where's the epilogue

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think, short of spoiling it. That's the best I can say.

It's in print only atm

🌟Draco Plato🌟

awwwww

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

OH WAIT

https://gumroad.com/l/robonoid-epilogue

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

OMGG

StickFreeks

Oh yay! Thanks!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

OH SHIT

🌟Draco Plato🌟

omg did he date rape her

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

It's 10 years later. I would say it's worth it. It's $2, but y'all should throw some money at Mharz

and JUST READ IT JUST... READ IT NOW

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

AAAHHHH

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

It's very cute and lemme tell you, again, Meirin continues to keep her common sense and I love her so much.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I need to get this

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

im glad meirin doesnt go on some i hate adults spree and realizes responsibilites are indeed a thing

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think having to actually worry about paying rent is kind of important XD

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yus

StickFreeks

I gotta drop out a bit early but this was fun! :D See ya!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

see ya

🌟Draco Plato🌟

bye stick~!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Bye!

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

thanks for coming stick~!

maybe the dating scene sucks where meirin lives. so she waits cause otherwise eww has to date oldman bankerman or something XD

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Ahahahahaha oh dear.

🌟Draco Plato🌟

well did he not go to jail for murder then?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Oh no he definitely did

🌟Draco Plato🌟

but he gets out 10 years later?

that'd be a super short murder sentence

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

good behavior maybe?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Well, I guess that'd depend on your lawyer

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Hmmm

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

and also the story's set in the Phillipines, so it might be slightly different depending on circumstance

🌟Draco Plato🌟

maybe, but geezus

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

oh gosh, what if Shin's crime was an accident

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

also I GOT THE EPILOUGE

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

QUESTION 2. At the end of the comic, Shin, whose real identity is revealed to be Manuel Robles, is arrested under the suspicion of murdering an Intelligence Communications employee named Sid Simon. Do you think Shin actually committed the crime? If yes, what do you think his motive was? If no, why do you think Shin is the primary suspect (and will his innocence be proven)? Given Shin’s leanings on hating adults who lie, why do you think Shin himself was so willing to commit such a huge lie? What do you foresee in general for Shin’s future and will he reflect upon his time with Meirin?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

It's SO HEARTWARMING

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

RIGHT, JUSTIN?! I told you, Meirin keeps her goddamn sense!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

YESSSS

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

honestly, that murder thing was a huge left turn for me, i had no idea that was going to be a thing and i'm still a little confused on it

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Also -- OMG, I think Shin DID commit the murder, although maybe it might have been manslaughter. He was hiding and scared before he got arrested. Even if he was an asshole with violent tendencies, I have a hard time thinking the act was actually premeditated.

also tbh I was kind of hoping it was the neighbor kid's mom but well. No, that wasn't the case.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

im leaning towards he did the murder. though i am 100% in the it was a crime of passion category. cause shin seems pretty explosive in general. so i could see him seeing some shady stuff going on him being like "that asshole murders oh whoops."

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

"Oops, I punched this guy and he hit his head on the floor the wrong way"

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

that being said, despite thinking that the victim was who replaced him, i actually think the motive was different. that shin confronted him over something else entirely

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

"it was the stairs, i swear officer"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Well considering how triggered Shin got...

✨Respheal✨

I'm just hung up on the question of why he was using a fake name in the first place

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Only with Meirin, though

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe to be cool

✨Respheal✨

Maybe

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Wait

How old even is Shin?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

oh wow

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i didn't understand why he didn't resist arrest

and was just sitting there basically waiting

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Guilty conscience!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

he wanted to be a hero, justice came to his door, what kinda hero would run from justice

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think Shin probably was like "yeah well, I'm boned"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

yea

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah that is one that bugs me. why the fake name? and also why was he so....different when meirin showed up? like for a moment i thought he was undercover

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeeeah

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Ahahahaha

🌟Draco Plato🌟

how was he different?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Maybe Shin gave acquaintences a fake name so he wouldn't get bugged

🌟Draco Plato🌟

she said he was different but i kept flipping back and forth like is it the shirt

he looks the same

or did she just mean his personality

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

she meant his personality

cause he wasnt all angry

with his furrowed brows

🌟Draco Plato🌟

but everyone's got different mood days

so it didn't strike me as that weird

(edited)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

it struck me as weird cause that was the first time seeing it. so if i was meirin i wouldve been like this is weird the first time. if it happened again okay whatever, different mood

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i wonder why going to jail mellowed him out

did he smoke a bowl before she showed up

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

shin mightve just chilled some cause he was going to confess to meirin. ya know, without telling her hes a dirty, dirty murderer

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Or his real name

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

This

Also I finally decided to jump to the middle of the story

🌟Draco Plato🌟

hey Meirin, I know I just met you, but call me maybe

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Definitely seems like Shin is a fishy person in general

with how he acts

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeah he does

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

in the 50's pages(edited)

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i knew the ending before i started reading so i think it made it easier to see he was shifty

early on

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lol

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I dunno that Shin's really shifty? Just... .... In need of an attitude adjustment

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

A few thwaps upside the head might get ya killed tho

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i didnt find him shifty. what i found shifty was meirin's landlord was nowhere around to complain to. which i know she explained it, but what a terrible landlord.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

hes an idealist in a world where that thinking doesn't work

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

wait if the landlord is gone how did shin even get a room? this is why i wish i knew when the murder was. cause if shin was hiding there from teh start it makes sense how he showed up so suddenly. he was a squatter

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Pretty much

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

the landlord is probably a company

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

wish i reread it before this

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

XD "Hi here's my check"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

tfw I'm jsut reading the whole thing now

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

didnt sound like it cause meirin siad the landlord was out of town or something. i remember this distinctly cause right before i read that i was like "meirin just complain to the landlord this is why they exist wtf." and then meirin explained why she wasnt doing that and i felt the fool

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Sorry I'm late. Today's been a day. ^.^ I'll respond to remarks from half an hour ago for a bit.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

hi math~!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

MATH

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Favourite bit's a tossup. I liked when she brought food and then was going to leave but relented when she realized he was actually really hungry, that was kind of touching. But I also liked when she thought it was a ghost near the start, that was funny.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i liked how she flipped her gears so quick and was like "jk thats silly its a new tenant"

common sense meirin

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, the ending was really interesting. Didn't anticipate that. Kind of casts everything in a slightly different light?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yes. although if were being critical i do wish the ending had been foreshadowed a bit more. it kind of came out of left field for me

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Hmmm. If Shin WAS a squatter... does that mean he never had a key

also, how long was that body gone for

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

so you didn't see that coming either

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

StickFreeks: Oh, damn, good catch! (With the firing leading to the drama.)

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Okay I pretty much read the whole story now

including the epilouge

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

its wierd to thinks he a squatter cause didn't we see inside his room with all the robonoid stuff

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I love it and how realistic it approaches things

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Rebel: Yeah, good point about the emulating on purpose with hair. I agrees.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

no one said squatters cant have stuff. shin didnt seem like he had a whole bunch of stuff tho to me

but i might be biased cause i have like 5 times that amount of stuff in my room not even counting all the shit stored in my closet

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Also yeah the police invasion (sorry for spoilers) came out of nowhare

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe i'm just mis-remembering then(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Respheal: Yeah, the alias thing made me wonder!

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

also I feel ya

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Shin moves from safe house to safe house with his favorite things

he only really had a computer and some posters, assuming the bed was part of the apartment

IS IT THEORY TIME

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah given the style of the bed to me it seemed more like it must of been a prefurnished apartment

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

DID SOMEONE SAY THEROIES

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, with the dead guy being in Intelligence, I thought maybe Shin was some sort of spy who got too caught up in his cover or something.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin: An adorable cinnamon roll of a character, perfect, do not question her. We know the story's from her point of view. Probably did not wait for Shin because she has common sense. Shin: A homeless, murderous squatter who might have been robonoid at one point or another -- and then got fired. Killed a guy, but didn't put a gun against his head or pull a trigger, but the guy's dead. Hates giving his real name because people are jerks and Shin sounds much cooler ANYWAY. "SHINJITE KUREYO"(edited)

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

>Shin was Robonoid

at some point

I love that theroy

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Buboy's probably yelling at his mom, "Mama... Life has just begun... But that guy had gone and thrown it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaay"

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I liked how she said "its a new tenant... but what IF IT'S NOT... no it is". Just something about that.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

kabo that shin description geez XD homeless, murderous squatter

tbf

if he is a squatter

it is a not O_O

hes not a new tenant in that case

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Oh, also, he probably stole someone's credit card.

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Maybe Shin's parents created Robonoid. Modelled him after their son. He could never live up to their expectations.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

shin grew up, learned there werent monsters and giant robots in real life. was eternally devastated

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Okay, I'm caught up to the present now. ^.^

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

if he stole a credit card that would explain the fancy restaurant

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

im glad shin had a job at some point cause tbh at first i thought he might just not do anything all day but watch robonoid

QUESTION 3. As Meirin spends time with Shin throughout the comic, she seems to change bit by bit. Do you think Meirin will remain changed, or will the comic’s ending cause her to revert back to her old ways of thinking? Do you think she will remain a Robonoid fan herself, or will it just bring back bad memories? How do you think watching Shin be arrested will affect Meirin in general? Most importantly, do you think she’ll wait for Shin like Shin asked her to? Why or why not?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

IF MEIRIN WAITS FOR SHIN, SHE IS A FOOL

MEIRIN IS NOT A FOOL

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Rebel: Oooh, good point, I forgot about the restauruant.

snuffysam

I sure hope she doesn't wait for Shin. Keep watching Robonoid if you want, but move on with your life.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

so by that do you mean meirin just marries shin while hes in jail? XD

✨Respheal✨

For real 8V (I gotta start winding down for bed so I'm ducking out o/)(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I tend to agree with Kabocha there. Interesting thought, the idea that Robonoid would bring up bad memories though. Hmmm.... maybe not? If she's able to talk with people like the little kid?

snuffysam

I think she might take up Shin's mantle of helping kids? Like, if she sees a kid in need, she'll help them?

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Meirin marries Robonoid.

✨Respheal✨

pff

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

:'3

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin is the priest.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

FROM JAIL

It's a video wedding.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I would say maybe somewhare inbetween

to answer the question

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i'd like to think meirin would keeping being a robonoid fan, yeah sure the guy that introduced it to you may be a murder but a good show is a good show, when she scracted the surface of it why let the dumb thing wiegh down your enjoyment of it

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

meirin kidnaps that abused kid and runs away from him. cant wait for shin because shes on the run

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I really want to know what happened to the abused kid

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

tbf with shin arrested meirin can take all his stuff. so no reason not to be a fan. someone has to have all that merch

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

exactly

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

it's probably evidence

Shin stole it from Sid Simon.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

the true motive

shin wanted that sweet limited edition poster

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yes

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, I wondered about the abused kid too. They both kind of had valid points, need to not ignore it but getting involved can just cause problems for everyone.

Shin took down all his stuff though before he was arrested.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

that scene really made me wonder if the country has a cps. cause the thing you should actually do in that situation is call cps

but different country, different protocols

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

What's CPS? thinks Oh, child protection services, right. Would probably need some kind of evidence.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea

I'm curious too

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i dont think you need evidence persay? well to report abuse you dont and i think they usually send someone out. to take the child is when they need the evidence

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i know in america they avoid that tho because foster care is terrible and often damages the child even more

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

At least Meirin will finally get some sleep? (Though she had trouble that time it was too quiet, so hard to say.)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

but still idk. i dont think either of their answers were right. cause shin's jump to violence and all that certainly is bad and if hes trying to not go to jail thats not how you do it. although in retrospect maybe thats why shin was ready to go for that. he might assume hes going to jail at some point so what does he have to lose? on the otherhand that, i dont agree with meirin's lets ignore it either, because that is exactly how abuse endures

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

meirin can just put on robonoid fan in the bg

problem solved

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I'd say they should have done something about it

without going to violence

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Agreed, both of them were kind of right. That felt like a bit of a loose thread.

(Or kind of wrong, depending on your POV.)

At least Shin didn't bite her hand when she silenced him.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

they were both right and wrong at the end of the day, imo.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

:'3 The story has some shades of gray to it.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Even Robonoid's not perfect. Dude seems to show up late to fights.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah i think at the end that was kind of the point. that adults and kids arent some black and white thing and that theres a fine line between good and bad. as meirin put it, "you should think like a child but not be a spoiled brat."

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Lol, Math

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i chalk that up to how henshin shows go, monster has to cause some havoc first mat

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Robonoid's probably responsible for tons of property damage.

Imagine the insurance bills!

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

oh of course he is

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

his oh so much

*this

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

'Tis a good quote, Rebel.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

theres tons of explosions and builds collapsing everytime a monster shows up

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Lots of dea--- oh no shin really was robonoid

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I could imagine that if the series was longer, it would start to show some of the faults of the Robonoid character

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Is Robonoid really a robot?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe, could be an ultraman thing where he just gets really big

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

and maybe Meirin would get some idea of why Shin gets bad influences from an anime aimed at kids.

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

SJB: Ooh, maybe. I wonder if there's more than the two videos.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

there has to be, it seemed like serialized show

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

It would have bene cool to see more of the Robonoid franchise and it's influence in Shin

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Robonoid III: Now He's Really A Noid.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Don't let him get the pizza

Maybe an extended cut of the comic could show more of Shin's character and his fondness for children(edited)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

yeah it seemed like a serialized show to me. there were multiple dvds. and since theres merch its more likely a show cause the points of those shows is to make shit tons of money selling merch

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

plot twist: shin is only nice to kids cause its his devious plan to steal their merch

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

audible gasp

🌟Draco Plato🌟

i did wonder that

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin is secretly being financed by Big Robo.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

LMAO

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

thats a whole different mech thing mat

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yis, and they're trying to devalue the other shows by having fans who steal merch from kids.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

my god, to think big robo would do such a thing

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

so was the murder all about the fact sid simon actually was an undercover employee for big robo's rival. and shin discovered it but someone had to take the fall for their corporate espionage

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

yes

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

That could be canon!

Interesting that Meilin had heard of Sid somewhere. Was that in the comic?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i didnt see it anywhere besides the news. i think she was commenting more shed heard of intelligence communications

on a different note, i hope meirin keeps watching robonoid fan if only because i think meirin could use something light hearted in her day. working as a bank teller sounds horribly dull and irritating cause many angry customers.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

we could all use some henshin in our lives

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Gotcha. And yeah, hopefully she still sees it as a fun pasttime.

puts a hen on Shin's head

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

mat plz

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lmao

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I'd sketch it but I'm not good with fast sketches.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

QUESTION 4. The comic deals with a lot of themes in regards to what it means to be a child, what it means to be an adult, and the good and bad that goes with each. Whose line of thinking in the comic did you find more compelling: Meirin’s or Shin’s? Why did that line of thinking appeal to you? Was there any scene in particular that you think was well done in showcasing the themes? Do you feel Shin’s lies ultimately hurt his arguments, or do you think they still stand up regardless? How does the Robonoid show fit in with the themes? Overall, what is your take away from the comic in regard to what it says about life?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I honestly felt like I connected a lot to Shin

since me and him share a few weaknesses

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

The weird thing is, Shin's deception felt rather un-childlike. What was he gaining by lying? Most kids would have a reason for that.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

though I agree a lot with Meirin.

also yes that

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

shin's philosophy intrigued me more as its similar to my own

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

You can see from both sides with the characters. Which is nice.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

me and Delta are one and the same

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin loses some credibility for calling Meirin old though.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lol

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I mean, I get it was in character, but speaking as an old person, booooo

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i saw points on both sides but i sided with meirin way more. while she could stand to be more light-hearted, i was more attune to her being a responsible adult and accepting there are just things that you have to do as an adult

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin was definitely stubborn. I think the idea of him being "in his own world" was nicely set up from the start with him playing loud audio late at night.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Like I always do

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

But your neighbours. O.o

(They'll think it's a ghost!)

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Thnakfuly i don't do it every night

Sounds like a fun story to do on Halloween

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

actually not going to lie, that opening scene is also what made me side with meirin's thinking more. XD cause she made a reasonable request that his stuff is too loud. and he responded by being a brat. so no matter how much i see validity in his points, ill always see it as coming from a place of a spoiled adult who thinks if he clings to childhood he suddenly wont be an adult XD

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Rebel: There's truth to that, yeah.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Indeed, Rebel

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

An interesting thing was how we did get some scenes at Meirin's work, fleshing out her world a bit, so she wasn't tied to the apartment. So it might have been easier to side with her too, she was more multifaceted.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

^^^

Maybe we needed to see more of Shin's life without Mei's influence/presence(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

More adult, even.

Shin, apparently living the high life with not worrying much for money, but tending to forget to eat.

(I admit, sometimes I get so caught up in work I forget to eat.)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

same

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I wonder what Robonoid would be like from Shin's point of view.

"Huh, she's cu--- WHY IS SHE YELLING AT ME GO AWAY Y'OLD HAG"

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i kind of wish wed seen a bit more of meirin's life outside. like even more than we see. like id have actually liked to see her tell her coworker about shin vs. it being relayed as an afterfact already happened

a version from shin's perspective might have been interesting

but also sounds angsty filled

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I was waiting for the ultimate Robonoid attack - "Robonoid Fan"! Big japanese fan that he waves at the enemy.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

did meirin ever say how old she was?

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, I don't know if we needed to see from Shin's perspective. But maybe Meirin talking to her coworker and getting advice on someone similar?

I think she just said she was roughly the same age?

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin said she was 25, I believe.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

nah i think the story works better completely from meirin's perspecive. id rather see shin's as like some offshoot extra

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeah cause she said she wasn't that old then said her age

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

okay i thought she said she was 25

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

When Shin first called her an old hag :'3

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Oops, missed that.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

the fact shin was 28 at the end made me rethink that scene with much wtf

like shin

youre older

who are you calling a hag

🌟Draco Plato🌟

yeeeeeeah XD

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

he's a child at ~heart~

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

at the time he couldn't have known that

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Shin, you make worse decisions than a 14-year-old child who's never been told no and has no supervision

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Lmao

I agree with that

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

http://robonoid.mharz.com/comic/9

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Mature behavior

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

welp i was wrong

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

rereading that scene, his intimidation of Meirin shoulda been a dead giveaway...

🌟Draco Plato🌟

mmm yeah

that seems like foreshadowing now

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yea.

Foreshadowing 70 or so pages ahread

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

I like the art style by the way. Pretty simple, but made dynamic with expressions and backgrounds.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

I agree

It reminds me of one of the video games I used to play since it had kinda a similar artstyle(edited)

I'll just say that(edited)

Simple, yet well crafted with lots of effort

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Which probably makes sense given the idea that Robonoid could be a video game too.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

and it is one in-story

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yes, crafted. And yes.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

if shin was a squatter him not locking the door makes sense

im totally banking on him being a squatter in hiding

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

True

Also every time I hear "squatter"

I imagine Shin listening to Russian gangsta music

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Shin, you gotta build your thighs. Do some squats.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i always wondered why no other neighbor complained about shin. like certainly someone shouldve been busybody enough to go around knocking on doors being like "do you believe this shit"

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yes

#Squatnation

also this

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Yeah, if he could hear the kid in the apartment below, couldn't they hear him listening to Robonoid?

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Doesn't he have like, two or four other neghibors?

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

He is on the second floor. Bit of a weird place to squat. Got to carry all your stuffs upstairs.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Yes

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Yeah, the kid mentioned he was hearing the robonoid theme

and he loved it

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Kabocha: Oh, that's right. Good catch.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Kudos to Kabo for catching that

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

maybe meirin just picked a really shitty apartment

since nobody cares

just loud neighbors being loud

normal tuesday

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

It's cheap. ^^

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

#LoudTuesday

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Here's a final puzzler. Do you think 'The Robonoid Fan' could also refer to Meirin, rather than Shin? Because she wasn't a fan, then became one, whereas Shin's whole persona seemed to be based on lies.

Well, that or denials.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

i think it could be argued to refer to both of them.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I think it's for both.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

That's what I thought at first

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

since the themes were largely about how neither was completely right or wrong

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

But yeah applying it to both sounds accurate(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

It's not plural though.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

but both their ideas combined was the true answer

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Or well, it probably centers around Shin, like the Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is... about haruhi, but the main chara is really Kyon

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

lol

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Shin is our troublesome character, who just happens to not be actually.... good at being a hero. SORRY SHIN.

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Hmmm, interesting. (Oh, I hope Shin doesn't have amazing powers.)

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

its a title, doesnt have to be plural to apply to both. cause metaphor.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

You don't get cookies for that scene in the epilogue, even though we all know Meirin made the right decisioooon

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Very meta. 4.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

I know, it's probably both, but I'm just being silly at this point in the evening :3

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Oh Kabo~ :3(edited)

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

All good. Me too. Haven't even brought up any ships.

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin x Connie forever.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

Well the epilogue conforms a ship and denies another

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Meirin x Big Sis?

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

meirin x robonoid

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

just a small teaser

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Wait, wait: Crack theory before we run out of time

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

DO IT

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin IS Big Sis

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

CRACK IT OPEN

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Robonoid takes place before The Angel with Black Wings

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

OMGGGG

I CAN SEE IT(edited)

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

Meirin dies and becomes Big Sis. She wants to be called "Lola" as a rememberance to Shin. AND RAY IS SECRETLY HER LOVE CHILD WITH SHIN -- lookit the spiky hair

(lola being similar to "granny")

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

shin is ray's dad #confirmed

MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑

Maybe they're just twin sisters.

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

this is the narrative i will push from now on

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

This explains SO MUCH

Kabocha: going off the rails at the last minute.

Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨

YES

🌟Draco Plato🌟

looooool

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

ANYWAY THIS COMIC IS GREAT READ IT PLS

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

tbf i didnt connect their hair till now XD

Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨

https://gumroad.com/mharz Buy Mharz's comics!

✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨

COMIC TEA PARTY END! Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party time is now up~! Thank you everyone so much for reading and joining this week’s chat~! We want to give a special thank you to Mharz, as well, for making The Robonoid Fan and volunteering it for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Mharz’s efforts however you’re able to. All that being said, if you would like to continue discussing this week’s comic, we highly encourage you to do so~!

For next week, Comic Tea Party will focus on Evil Witch Allie by Kristin Tipping. As always, please use the next several days to read as much of the comic as you would like. We hope to see you next Thursday on April 19th from 5PM to 7PM PDT for the chat~! Until then, happy reading~! Comic: http://www.evilwitchallie.com/

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October 19th, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on October 19th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Alethia by Kristina Stipetic.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Alethia by Kristina Stipetic~! (http://alethia.kstipetic.com/index.html) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~!

With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Mharz

I'm here too!

RebelVampire

hey Mharz

Mharz

yay!

snuffysam

I am here as well

RebelVampire

welcome again @snuffysam ~!

Mharz

It's actually hard to choose there's so many good scenes here.

sskessa

ok i am here i have coffee

MathTans the Pun Prince

Given my tendency to veer towards humour, in terms of a favorite scene it would be when the weird Tetris block appeared, like whaaat. But speaking as an Educator a lot of the "it needs to make SENSE" from #5 rang true for me.

Also hullo. ^^

Mharz

LOOOOL that was funny!

RebelVampire

hi math and sskessa~!

snuffysam

#5 was probably my favorite chapter, at least

Mharz

like oh you're so good at this here's a nice big block. have fun!

MathTans the Pun Prince

The only way to trip up artificial intelligence.

RebelVampire

yeah i liked the random tetris block appearing. but also sympathized with the frustration cause i went through a tetris obsessed period and if the game rando dropped such a block on me id very much wtf

Mharz

Chapter 4 is my favorite so far

MathTans the Pun Prince

Getting sympathy from readers is good.

Mharz

I would've kicked the game.

but it's purpose is to make robots angry so pretty much the game is doing it's job well

Kabocha

Agreed, chapter 4 is DAMN GOOD. It was interesting to see how everyone moved to "ooph, yep, it's okay to let one robot be angry forever because why do we have to go through stress and frustration"

Mharz

yeaaahh

Kabocha

It felt like it was really a good commentary on how people are going to be lazy if they can feel like someone else is going to do the heavy lifting for them.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, I need to stick with #5 as a whole being my fave, just because of the education perspective that I took to it. The idea of tests deciding who's good enough to move on and up in the world, and the idea that to be seen as special people just "game" the system, rather than really trying to understand the problems with it.

Mharz

every chapter has a good message.

snuffysam

And then how they moved to "eh, it's easier to just do our jobs than argue"

MathTans the Pun Prince

I have no idea how something that that could even be storyboarded. Impressed.

Mharz

at the same time they don't want to feel they're useless

RebelVampire

i really liked the art in chapter 4 because of how differently the oil was depicted. cause sometimes it could look benign and just kind of normal but then other images are just immensely spook and make it look like this terrible horror substance

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Actually, the "cheating the system" bit in #5 when Jun reprogrammed it made me think of James Kirk and the Kobyashi Maru "no win" situation.

Kabocha

only Jun was making the system work logically

MathTans the Pun Prince

Agreed, interesting art on that. Horror vibe but not to the extent that I was put off.

Kabocha

It takes a special kind of programmer to really eff up basic logic problems

MathTans the Pun Prince

Here's the thing though, the programmers must be machines, right? They're all machines there.

Kabocha

there's reference to the creators though

and we have NO idea who the creators are

MathTans the Pun Prince

Well, sure, you'd want to program something like that in.

snuffysam

My interpretation was that the system was designed that way intentionally- for whatever reason, making smart people think they're dumb was the creators' intention.

Mharz

Man seeing those source code in chapter 5 gave me nostalgia in my college days

MathTans the Pun Prince

Snuffy: Interesting. Like a vendetta or something.

RebelVampire

yeah i agree with the system was designed intentionally that way for reasons we cant yet comprehend.

Mharz

yeah

RebelVampire

cause all the cities seem to have a flaw of some sort

like a really big flaw that should not form naturally

Kabocha

could it be that over the course of running, each city ended up getting messed up?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Bad AC/DC conversion made some robots crazy.

Mharz

it was made messed up...

sskessa

i won't say anything unless you ask me directly

snuffysam

Maybe the creators just wanted to make a planet-wide factory (for silicon, oil, etc), so... they built sections with robots that could make those things and left them to it?

MathTans the Pun Prince

jumps 5 feet in the air An author! (and/or artist?)

Kabocha

Ahahahaha

Mharz

RebelVampire

breathe math, breathe

Mharz

She's the author

and the artist

MathTans the Pun Prince

I've been very jumpy lately.(edited)

sskessa

do not be alarmed

Kabocha

sskessa, why do they ship the dumbest robots off after Chapter 6? Mel seems to understand that they get sent out as they progress further along in their ignorance... Or is that spoiler territory?

I'm thinking they're sending them to another facility to do a thing, but what, I wonder

Mharz

oooh good one

sskessa

i have an answer and i don't know if it's spoilers, because i haven't decided how much info i'll put into the comic by the end.

MathTans the Pun Prince

If you send out your stupid people, you retain the smart ones.

snuffysam

How long are you planning on making the comic?

sskessa

maybe 10 years total. so far it's been 2 years

MathTans the Pun Prince

Dedication, woot.

RebelVampire

that is some extreme dedication. very impressive~!

Mharz

sskessa

i think by the end of the whole comic, you'll understand what's happening in chapter 5

MathTans the Pun Prince

Note that when you're shipping robots, you need to be careful they don't become trees.

Mharz

in 10 years

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Chapter 5 is one of my favourites

snuffysam

I meant chapter-wise- but I suppose 10 years is around 30 chapters?

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

I have the first 5 books and I have Chapter 2 and 5 in my bag all the time and show them around to people(edited)

Mharz

I like how everyone is being referred to in female pronouns.

MathTans the Pun Prince

I'm also massively impressed that there's a whole opening sequence for the comic.

Mharz

OMG

MathTans the Pun Prince

Mharz: I didn't even totally pick up on that.

Mharz

I LIKE THAT VIDEO

yeah I've noticed it

since chapter 1 everyone refers to everyone as "her" and "she"

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, no, I'm realizing it as you say it in retrospect.

sskessa

it seems like a lot of people have overlooked it, but it's true. everyone is female

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Got to poof out becuase I got to do something but I love sskessa's stuff so much

Literally read and bought the books on the same day

MathTans the Pun Prince

I suppose with them being kind of naked that eliminates the need to draw male bits, uhm.

Mharz

AWESOME

MathTans the Pun Prince

(Do robots have those?)

snuffysam

They're also robots. So... that's not an issue regardless

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Yeah I love the fact they are all robots too

snuffysam

Heh exactly

Mharz

I mean one lays egg so there's a possibility?

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

So it makes things really transparent

Superjustin of Time and Space

Hello!

Mharz

in case there are male robots

snuffysam

Were the people in chapter 1 robots? I wasn't quite sure...

MathTans the Pun Prince

Male robot is needed to make queen.

Superjustin of Time and Space

Wait

Mharz

Not in the first chapter tho

Superjustin of Time and Space

Robots can breed in this universe?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, when the one ripped off the tail there were electronic parts.

Even in Cahpter 1.

sskessa

all the characters in all chapters so far have been robots. the green ones in chapter 1 were just very early designs

Mharz

oooooh

Superjustin of Time and Space

Oh lol

Kabocha

I dunno that I'd call it breeding

snuffysam

Cool cool

Kabocha

synthesizing perhaps

MathTans the Pun Prince

Robots breed by becoming trees.

Mharz

yeah that's the more appropriate term

Superjustin of Time and Space

I agree

MathTans the Pun Prince

They're synthesizers. plays music

Mharz

LOL MATH

Kabocha

not the midi kind

RebelVampire

im curious about the fact that the robots feel pain. like particularly in the first chapter, why would you design it so a robot feels pain when synthesizing?

sskessa

snuffysam

The chapter 2 specific robots reproduced by becoming trees though. Chapter 3's were made on an assembly line.

Mharz

all the robots have emotions tho

Kabocha

I dunno that I'd call it pain too much either; it's just electrical impulses that their systems might not have a great way of processing

snuffysam

That does raise a question of what the creators' intentions were...

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Does the protagonist? She's seemed pretty emotionless. (Granted, creepy teeth sometimes which makes her look sort of upset, but she's very logical.)

RebelVampire

well technically all human pain is just electrical impulses processed by the brain

Kabocha

(I'm being pedantic okay)

Mharz

Kabocha

I guess what I'm getting at is the pain is more like an interrupt though, or just an unexpected input from a not-great design

Mharz

it might be possible that Jun hasn't comprehended it yet since she has just been repaired.

Kabocha

Jun, quick, become an electrical engineer!

RebelVampire

thats a fairer way to put it

i think jun has emotions tho to a degree. i mean in the sixth chapter she does say "don't abandon me" which thats kind of reflective of an emotion

Mharz

yeah

Superjustin of Time and Space

Yeah

Oh of course I would yeah to a prior post

MathTans the Pun Prince

I suppose. She also grew a tail, I think. I'm not quite sure where that's going.

Superjustin of Time and Space

Thanks Discord mobile for not scrolling down

snuffysam

Yeah she seemed pretty attached to her friend in Chapter 2 (to the point where she's afraid of someone leaving her again in chapter 6)

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

I also love that the name came from the location of where names are extremely important

Mharz

and she was concerned when Mel was crying and that she might turn into a tree like camphor

MathTans the Pun Prince

Snuffy: Good point on that callback.

Mharz

tho I found those lines a bit funny. sorry.

"Don't cry! You might turn into a tree!"

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, it was the reaction to the tree thing that was funny. Like, tree, whatchootalkinbout?

Kabocha

sskessa -- do the names have any actual importance, or are they randomly assigned characters?

(like, does the string eventually indicate that there is a function or assignment for that?)

sskessa

the names from chapter 5 are randomly assigned, alternating between consonant and vowel

RebelVampire

yeah i agree the tree bit was also sort of funny cause of course mel doesnt know wtf that means

Kabocha

Aaaah, okay

MathTans the Pun Prince

Is Y a vowel? ^.^

sskessa

but "jun" has a personal meaning to me and i intended to name her that since the beginning

Mharz

and Jun probably got an assumption that robots turn into trees when they cry because that's what happened to the first robot she saw crying

MathTans the Pun Prince

I feel like I want to put an 'e' on the end of the name. ^.^

snuffysam

I think the story structure is interesting. Chapters 2-5 had basically no callbacks to earlier chapters (except Jun's goal of making the cities more efficient). Suddenly, Chapter 6 has a bunch, with the first character carrying over between chapters, and referencing the turning into a tree.

(besides Jun, who carries over every chapter)

Mharz

I really like how they were all stand-alone

well almost(edited)

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, I'm reminded of some of those old TV shows where you have the central character (like Columbo or Kojak or whatever) and the entire cast around them is different. So it doesn't really matter where you start reading/watching.

Kabocha

I think the callbacks in Chapter 6 were appropriate, though, since Jun had someone to carry that over with. It's also a good reminder of what came before, too.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. Alethia features a world where scattered groups of robots all live together functioning in different ways. While it is clear that the robots had creators of some sort, they are nowhere to be found. Why were the robots created in the first place? How did the world get to be the way it is? Why do the robots live so scattered even though some areas seem to have transportation to and from different places? What was the original purpose of each factory city?(edited)

Kabocha

insufficient data

RebelVampire

MathTans the Pun Prince

It's all happening in their minds.

snuffysam

Was it a planet-wide factory? Some sort of social experiment by the creators? Only time will tell, I think...

Mharz

pretty sure whoever the creator is they didn't program the robots to have knowledge of the outside

or they probably have

but they never consider leaving(edited)

MathTans the Pun Prince

What I'm kinda wondering about it who maintains the power station(s). And who built THAT (them).

Mharz

ooor they have limited capabilities

snuffysam

The robots in chapter 5 knew there was a world outside their city

Mharz

cus camphor can only take 800 steps before running out of batteries

MathTans the Pun Prince

Well yes. So different power systems but there seems to be compatability.

RebelVampire

i think all the robots besides the tree ones know. cause i recall there being a few other times jun arrived and the robots were like "oh we dont usually see outsiders"(edited)

snuffysam

The robots in chapter 2 knew there was a vast world, but they couldn't visit it.

MathTans the Pun Prince

(Are there AC and DC robots?)

Mharz

oh yeah that's true

Kabocha

Each city seems to explore an aspect of humanity or society and the contradictions with each theme. You have a group that's expected to rely on one person to continue to carry on the future, even at great personal pain. You have another group that's expected to pair up, but... I mean, not everyone wants to do that! Come on. (Poor Camphor, though.) Another yet is willing to shunt the work on another person -- teamwork and loyalty gone awry. And then another is willing to forgo actual learning in favor of passing a test.

Mharz

poor camphor

RebelVampire

yeah part of me wonders if the creators are doing this as a huge social experiment

Mharz

-_-

snuffysam

(and the robots in chapter 3, which create separate social castes based on something completely arbitrary)

RebelVampire

to see which society functions best

MathTans the Pun Prince

I dunno, camphor didn't seem good at seeing the big picture. Like, upon finding out that everyone was trying to keep her there, she just said she'd leave.

Mharz

bottomline is not all systems are perfect.

snuffysam

Chapter 4 is especially interesting, because the major "flaw" only came up recently.

MathTans the Pun Prince

True. No system is really.

Kabocha

I kinda read the tree city as being a sorta high-level commentary on sexual expectations in society without going there? Camphor strikes me as wanting to do their own thing, and was essentially the only person in the society that was ace, but being pressured into pairing off. ...I dunno, each chapter sticks with you in a different way and the interpretation's gonna be pretty subjective.

Chapter 4 felt like a giant "fuck you" to most workplaces loooool

sskessa

you can use female pronouns for all the characters

MathTans the Pun Prince

Okay, related to the recent question, crazy theory time about "Robots had creators".... Jun is one of the creators. She was cast out and had her memory taken because she didn't agree with the creators any more. Or possibly she volunteered, in order to see if the systems they all put in place were working and didn't want to be biased by knowing them.

Kabocha

(oh crap, it's already 8:30 and we haven't had any crazy conspiracy theories about teh plot yet)

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, definitely subjective interpretations for some of it. That's an interesting one though, Kabocha.

snuffysam

Nothing crazy yet, no. We have had some theories.

MathTans the Pun Prince

(Jun's a SPY I tell you... deep undercover.)

snuffysam

"Jun is one of the creators" makes as much sense as anything else...

What are your thoughts on the tail?

Kabocha

Long live the queen? :3

snuffysam

Yeah, I'm thinking it's a callback to chapter 1 in some capacity...

sskessa

haha, you're the second person to suggest that

RebelVampire

jun is clearly just going through robot puberty

sskessa

should i keep quiet wrt to theories?

snuffysam

yeah probably

MathTans the Pun Prince

Up to you, sskessa.

It'll be on the web later.

sskessa

alright, i'll keep quiet. you'll find out everything eventually

RebelVampire

yeah these chats do get archived and the chat history is always readable

but its largely up to you

weve had chats with spoilers, had some with no spoilers

MathTans the Pun Prince

The tail is to help with swimming, obvs.

Kabocha

Oh no, the next city is a water level

MathTans the Pun Prince

Better call a plumber.

RebelVampire

actually

thatd be interesting if that was the reason somehow

that there was adaption for the city coming up

and somehow a tail was needed

MathTans the Pun Prince

bows

(good spin)

snuffysam

she was pretty broken when the chapter 1 robots found her. maybe this is self-repair?

Kabocha

Jun is slowly changing each chapter, hehe

She's truly an admirable AI

MathTans the Pun Prince

I feel like she had enough power previously to do evolution though. So why trigger it now?

snuffysam

distance from her home?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Oh, sskessa, in case I forget to ask later - Chinese translation, is that you? It's an interesting language choice.

Snuffy: Fair point.

Could be getting close to home with the other creators.

Mharz

What I missed? Our power went out

RebelVampire

you missed the secrets of life being revealed

sorry Mharz

Mharz

Dang

MathTans the Pun Prince

Jun is actually an acquatic goddess.

Kabocha

Don't worry, it was only applicable to robots

Mharz

That's not Jun's final form

sskessa

the chinese translation is done by my friend, but i read over it and give feedback

MathTans the Pun Prince

That's neat.

sskessa

we discuss the subtleties of all the word choices, so everything in the chinese translation is definitely intentional

Kabocha

That's neat though

Mharz

power's back woo!

MathTans the Pun Prince

I would think the "characters in a name" thing would translate differently.

sskessa

haha, well, it was very important to me that her name be "jun" so i had to keep the latin letters

Mharz

interesting

MathTans the Pun Prince

That's fair.

sskessa

this isn't a spoiler, she is named after my favorite singer, jun togawa.

Mharz

ooooh

MathTans the Pun Prince

With synthesizer backup...

Mharz

jun and mel will make a band

snuffysam

@sskessa, in the animated OP- how much direction did you give Ann Mendenhall? With regards to referencing future events, for instance.

thanks discord, that's totally what i wanted after the @ symbol

MathTans the Pun Prince

Spice Girls, Unplugged.

sskessa

hm....i believe it was $1000

i had a sponsor

Mharz

whoa

that's so cool

MathTans the Pun Prince

O.o

Mharz

the she animated everything herself?(edited)

snuffysam

whoa dang

sskessa

i told someone about my project and he gave me the money for it, i gave it to ann. she animated everything single-handedly. i drew the backgrounds

snuffysam

did you give her storyboards or something?

sskessa

sometimes, yes.

Mharz

kudos to her

it's very well made

sskessa

she is very good, you can commission her :3

Mharz

I wish I have the money

I can do it myself but I really just don't have the time and patience

snuffysam

it was certainly worth it. the OP got me hooked

sskessa

for example, i gave her this reference for the tower

snuffysam

oh neat

Mharz

oh wow that's cool

how long did she take to animate everything?

sskessa

a year

Mharz

omg

well it's very well made so it's worth it

:' D

RebelVampire

QUESTION 3. This comic deals with a lot heavy themes concerning collectivism, individuality, guilt, forgiveness, peer pressure, and much more. Which theme and story resonated with you the most and why? What other sorts of storylines and themes do you think are possible? Are there any characters you think it’d be interesting to see again? What do you think the comic’s overall theme and/or message is?

sskessa

haha, it's not like anyone knew we were making it, so no pressure to rush

Mharz

I totally salute her.

sskessa

listens intently to the answers to this question

Mharz

is thinking...

MathTans the Pun Prince

As a teacher, for me it's still got to be #5. With the assuming books are right and not doing proper thinking, or in the one case needing to understand the REASONING, which I always tell students is SO key, like, don't just memorize an algorithm. But there it's taken to the extreme, looking for reason in something that has no system of logic.

Or a continually changing system of logic anyway.

I'm reminded of a Janway quote, "You can use logic to justify almost anything. That is its power, and its flaw."(edited)

Mharz

not all truths can be found in books.

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

I love the backwards logic of Chapter 5

Some of it is really funny

sskessa

part of it was inspired by reading someone in a reddit debate say "circular reasoning doesn't bother me"

Mharz

that is some twisted logic

MathTans the Pun Prince

The math teacher in me is screaming.

snuffysam

The comic so far seems to have a theme of "people will let their emotions/biases lead them to make irrational decisions"?

MathTans the Pun Prince

As far as other themes, I could see addressing keeping something for sentimentality reasons even though it has no "practical" purpose. Or maybe even a "hoarder" issue, like someone who just collects a bunch of stuff not really for any reason. Not sure where one might take that though, would need to be careful.

snuffysam

Though that could change as Jun's worldview changes in the coming chapters

Ooh, good one

RebelVampire

snuffysam: i like that as an overall interpretation for the comic

seems pretty accurate

MathTans the Pun Prince

Bias would keep anyone in business forever. There's so many of them.

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Also the best part of that statment

because they are robots

Robots usually are the most logical things when people think about them

MathTans the Pun Prince

ALL the bias, in wheel form. (credit at the bottom)

Mharz

Some knowledge and beliefs we have came from our environment and peers

sskessa

wow beautiful

snuffysam

Question is- in situations like Chapter 3, was it somebody's idea to split up the classes of robots, or was that the creators' design?

RebelVampire

i think for me its also #5 that stuck with me the most because of the themes of peer pressure and blind adherance. like the ending to the chapter hit me really hard. cause i liked all the touch about education and books not being right etc. but what hit me is that mel was right and that for mel it was like watching a train wreck happening and being unable to do that. and i felt thats a good parallel for what life sometimes feels like. where we can see the inevitable outcome of something for a person or a society, and yet there is absolutely nothing we can do because norms prevent others from fully embracing differing perspectives.

Mharz

yeah

I can relate to that too

MathTans the Pun Prince

Good one.

Maybe creators put in contingency plans, Snuffys?

sskessa

@RebelVampire that's definitely what i was thinking about when i wrote it. thinking about friends of mine

Mharz

like I was trying to figure out the logic within a certain book but peers just keep telling to just believe it just like that withoug any concrete proof as to why.

RebelVampire

yeah but to be fair, all knowledge exists only because we agree on the answers. so in a sense education will always have a sense of peer pressure in only believing the most accepted thing

MathTans the Pun Prince

2+2 = 5

Kabocha

in certain cases where you have a float error....

Mharz

no math

MathTans the Pun Prince

Rootbeer float error. "2" is too large.

Kabocha

2 is perfect what are you talking about

Mharz

2 is a company 3 is a crowd

MathTans the Pun Prince

Actually 6 is the first perfect number. Divisors are 1, 2, 3 and 1+2+3 = 6.

It's a real thing. So are friendly numbers.

sskessa

so with that in mind, sometimes the only way to escape peer pressure, which is not always consciously recognized, is to physically leave a group of people

MathTans the Pun Prince

sskessa: Good point. Which is hard when we want to fit in somewhere.

Mharz

oh yes definitely

I mean I agree to you both

sskessa

oh, 2+2=5 is a theme in "notes from underground"

snuffysam

It's also why it's so interesting that Lak chose to stay behind.

sskessa

to answer the question myself, the next story arc is going to be the one that is the most personal to me so far.

MathTans the Pun Prince

There. Are. Four. Lights. (Okay, now I've referenced original series, Voyager and TNG. Can I get the others in?)(edited)

snuffysam

Looking forward to it!

RebelVampire

oh that sounds exciting

Kabocha

What's the general synopsis, sskessa~?

(of the arc)

sskessa

@MathTans the Pun Prince XD

MathTans the Pun Prince

About friendship, maybe? Given there's two of them now.

RebelVampire

i wonder if the robots will know how to "fix" the fix jun used in chapter 5. or if they will actually have to have correct answers now. cause jun's fix was so simple unless you had looked at the code before you might miss that single punctuation that changes everything

Mharz

forgot a semi-colon, got 1000 errors

trust me I can relate

sskessa

mel and jun arrive in the movie factory and meet the most famous actress of robot world (who you've seen before). jun does not understand the function of movies. we meet the "underground robot," the most unpopular robot in the movie factory who writes anti-literature. the character is my personal response to dostoyevsky's "notes from underground"

a book which i have very mixed feelings about

Mharz

weren't mel watching a movie in the transport thing?(edited)

sskessa

yes

snuffysam

and they had movies in chapter 4

Mharz

oooh

snuffysam

very interested to see where that goes!

Kabocha

oooh! :3 So the actress is one they saw in that movie, then?

RebelVampire

QUESTION 4. Jun, as the main character comes to be named, is on a mission to travel from city to city and correct their inefficiencies. However, there remains many questions about Jun in regards to this. Who created Jun and for what purpose? Is Jun’s mission a result of free-will or is it something driven by underlying programming? Should Jun even be fixing the cities, or would it be better if Jun left them the way they are? What do you think will be Jun’s ultimate fate?

sskessa

@Kabocha yes, and she is the main character of the next arc.

snuffysam

So far, it seems Jun's goal is just the result of something someone in chapter 3 suggested.

maybe that was her remembering her true purpose?

Mharz

I think Jun weren't meant to do that but after what happened to camphor, somehow triggered her to go and fix the cities.

snuffysam

for the most part, she seems to just be exploring. the only reason she keeps fixing cities is because they're all broken.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Jun will meet herself. If you travel far enough, you meet yourself, and that's totally possible with robots.

Mharz

and she did get the idea of "evaluating efficiency" on chapter 3

RebelVampire

i feel like that is kind of her purpose tbh, to evaluate efficiency. which makes the next arc very interesting cause from a practical standpoint movies dont really have purpose. i mean they arguably further culture, but from a productive standpoint they dont have a point(edited)

snuffysam

Mel watches movies. perhaps she will (attempt to) convince Jun of their worth...

Mharz

will she understand the sense of it tho

MathTans the Pun Prince

She'll be the new star. Paid in batteries. Much usefulness.

RebelVampire

jun will learn to have fun O_O go to cool robot starlet pool parties

Mharz

maybe at the end, jun will have full human emotions

sorry I'm dumb

snuffysam

thats what the tail is for. pool parties!

Mharz

omg

sskessa

laughs but you know...i already think she does

have full emotions XD because i am also a very dry person

Mharz

she does but she hasn't realized it fully

MathTans the Pun Prince

That doesn't sound dumb.

Like, having something to be building towards in terms of understanding emotions. I have emotions, doens't mean I always understand them, like why am I crying at a certain point.

Mharz

sskessa

that's a fair point

Mharz

maybe she'll fall in love with someone

sskessa

she already fell in love, back in chapter 3

MathTans the Pun Prince

She'll meet herself then fall in love with herself.

Mharz

MathTans the Pun Prince

A bit curious about her design, incidentally. Different from the other robots. Wider legs, for one thing. Wonder if that means something.

sskessa

what? isn't it normal to be aroused by beautiful abstract concepts? maybe it's just me

snuffysam

Jun efficiency

sskessa

exactly.

snuffysam

OTP

Mharz

sskessa

seriously though, i want her to have a girlfriend at some point. if i can manage to write it well.

MathTans the Pun Prince

I personify mathematics functions as cute females, so I'm the wrong person to ask.

Kabocha

I think however you write it, it'll be fine RebelVampire

to be fair as someone who also likes to find the most efficient way possible to do things, i cant blame jun for falling in love with efficiency XD

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Will they ever meet a non-female robot, I wonder. (Not necessarily male.)

sskessa

Mharz

that's interesting

snuffysam

now i'm curious- is there a reason you decided on an all-female world?

Kabocha

They're robots

MathTans the Pun Prince

Females are better, but aside from that.

sskessa

got tired of reading about male characters

snuffysam

fair enough

Mharz

I somehow can relate

not that I have anything against male characters

snuffysam

now that i think about it, pretty much everything i've written or drawn over the past couple years has a female lead...

for basically the same reason

Mharz

I love female leads

MathTans the Pun Prince

I just prefer females. Why would I write about males, I am one, that's not so interesting to me.

Mharz

I love female leads

If you can't tell yet.

MathTans the Pun Prince

The site navigation is interesting too, just to mention it. Having all the strips laid out on one page, scrolling down, rather than page to page to page. Took a while to load, but then could read a lot at once.

I love female lead love.

Mharz

RebelVampire

yeah i like that the scrolldown format for each chapter kind of emphasizes their connected but individual storylines

sskessa

yes, so, the corollary to all characters being female means all characters are lesbians

snuffysam

Navigating between chapters is a bit of a pain. As far as I can tell, the only way to do so is to go back to the chapter list?

sskessa

hm. good point. i will put a "next chapter" button at the bottom of each chapter

Mharz

oh yes please.

snuffysam

Thanks!

Mharz

I did have to scroll back up to get to the next chapter

MathTans the Pun Prince

I just hit my "back" button.

snuffysam

...your browser doesn't have a back button?

lol

sskessa

as for that format, i did my last comic as single-page navigation and it always took so long to load. this way you can leave the comic to load for 5 minutes and then read it all at once

snuffysam

no yeah, that part's great

Mharz

a chapters list and next/previous chapter at the bottom should suffice(edited)

snuffysam

honestly a next button alone would be fine for most purposes. but more is better in this case, i think.

sskessa

will do

Mharz

in case you want to get back at something

MathTans the Pun Prince

The layout's good too on individual pages, works with the scroll down format.

Mharz

I kinda had to go back to chapter 1 to verify if Jun had a tail initially

sskessa

i will try to clear up the tail question in the next arc. i don't intend it to be too mysterious

Mharz

I just like to think that she's evolving into a final form

Respheal

o_o -goes back to chapter 1 to see if there's a tail- (Also hiiiiiiii popping in late)

snuffysam

her head isn't enough of a trash can yet

Mharz

no she doesn't

snuffysam

hi Respheal!

Respheal

Okay xD Was doubting my memory there

Mharz

oh trust me that was me last night too

like "wait, did she have a tail?" O_O

sskessa

hi!

MathTans the Pun Prince

It's not a tail, it's the start of a third leg. ^.^ (Actually, yeah, all the robots look human-ish. Which helps to relate to them, though I wonder if we'll run into a place where they don't.)

"Why do you have two heads?" "Why don't you?"

Mharz

the queen isn't

I mean she looks like an adorable dinosaur

MathTans the Pun Prince

True that.

Mharz

with a badass spiky hair

(edited)

Kabocha

They are probably designed to better imitate their creators

snuffysam

of course, we don't know the creators are human

they could just be more robots

MathTans the Pun Prince

Their creator... V'ger! (Okay, no more Trek references.)

snuffysam

robots all the way down

Mharz

Kabocha

recursive robots

RebelVampire

but somewhere down the line thered be non machine based life. cause machine based life doesnt just pop up from nothing

its called manmade for a reason

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Beats cursive robots. Walking around like @(#(@#.

Mharz

LOOOL

Kabocha

Shh, the creators clearly had a design in mind

RebelVampire

Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party is now complete~! Thank you everyone so much for joining this week’s chat~! That being said, if you would like to continue discussing the comic, we encourage you to do so~! We want to give a big thank you to Kristina Stipetic, as well, for volunteering Alethia for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Kristina Stipetic’s efforts. If you have questions, concerns, or suggestions about CTP, please feel free to PM me, or e-mail me at [email protected].

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