#not that he doesn't kind of deserve a villain era but like. bro it's not helping
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#anyway thinking about how my main inky and my rook are like. reverses of each other. like inky. born in an alienage. has very little memory#of it thanks to The Circumstances. got taken in by a dalish clan after all that shit and like. sees it as simultaneously a point of#pride and something that makes him worry about whether or not he's. you know. Enough. like he wants to belong and he mostly does but#damnit he does remember how they looked at him and Rella that first day and it's hard for him to not wonder in the back of his mind#if they still see him like that. and like he's got his whole Thing about that and it does make me think about how Sera would be A Lot to him#but then. my rook having basically the opposite thing going. the only memory of his clan being a vague image of his mother's face#to the point of him not even always being sure it was real (but what's the point of dwelling on that. right?) and him just deciding that#'well it's too late to think about that now' and how my Rook's whole personality for a while is just 'i don't know what's going on but#i want to help but i just end up hurting people or failing to avery disasters' while my inky is just 'i pretty much get what's#happening here and i want to kill everyone but APPARENTLY i have to be NICE now 🙄'#just rambling and thinking about how inquisition might turn out to be the end of his villain era#not that he doesn't kind of deserve a villain era but like. bro it's not helping#original posts
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The wild thing about SAF is that it's a comedy spy parody musical from eight years ago, but people (including me) really have the most elaborate headcanons for these characters and are so invested in them, because they're not Good Representation for Fine Upstanding LGBTQ+ Youths, it's compelling representation for weird messy queer people.
Like I don't know if I'm expressing this well, but we're only able to have this kind of weird deep conversation about the meanings behind the gay comedy spy parody musical because these aren't sanitized characters.
One of them does absolutely nothing wrong to deserve the massively horrible thing that happens to him, gets hurt by the man he loves, gets abandoned. But he also tortures and kills people. He's canonically the villain, but he's sympathetic.
The other one is kind of an asshole- cocky, careless, jealous, petty. He fucks up big time, but he's also an ADHD himbo who is lovable in ways you can't describe. He's canonically the hero, but there's very much an "Oh, sweetie" vibe to him
And SAF succeeds at having such interesting representation because while the Big Reveal is meant to be a surprise at the end of the show, they layered it in from the opening minutes of the show.
It isn't BUT THEY'RE GAY HAHA, it's relying on our understanding of the rules of the spy genre to tell a surprisingly meaningful story. Mary Kate sings it right at the beginning- it's time to get the girl again. The reveal works because it plays against what you know, what you expect from this genre, so wonderfully.
And it also isn't Here Are Two Flawless Gays Please Do You Like Them?? It isn't PR. It isn't representation for the sake of representation. Being gay is not the only thing we know about them. And because the reveal doesn't happen until the end, it's arguably not even the most important thing we know about them.
It's just two kinda fucked up guys who might have been great together, but who lived in an era and especially worked in a profession where they had little realistic prospect of making anything work in the long term.
Who probably had a lot of shit on their shoulders from having to hide who they are their entire lives, growing up in wartime, and maybe even being neurodivergent. There's so much room to use our knowledge of the real world during this time period to flesh out these characters in a way the musical just doesn't have time to do.
And once you rewatch the show with the context of the Big Gay Reveal, it actually colors in a lot of those traits and interactions in subtle and interesting ways.
And especially knowing that this came out eight years ago, and was created by a tiny little independent theatre company, it's just... thanks, Tin Can Bros. I like your messy gays
#spies are forever#tin can bros#agent curt mega#owen carvour#curtwen#sorry somebody said they were spring cleaning their drafts and i got inspired
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