#no hate to Darren Criss's voice it's great and all but he sang everything
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ghost-jack-books · 1 year ago
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Just gonna say, it is a CRIME that they didn't let Eddy Martin sing in Glee. He has one (1) solo line and it might be my favorite in the series
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spaceorphan18 · 3 years ago
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have you ever read a detailed post about the glee cast’s singing voices? like all about their technique and stuff? reading your reaction to the ‘vocal coach reacts to glee’ video makes me want to know more!
Hmmmm, not really! Not from a professional vocalist POV, I don’t think.  (That I’m aware of.  This does remind me there was one vocal coach in fandom, and she hated Blaine, and I wasn’t too fond of her, or her analysis, so I won’t point you in that direction.) 
My background is in music, but not in vocal performance.  But I can give you a quick rundown of cast’s musical abilities if you like, though they won’t be huge on the technical side of it.  
ETA: I started this a while ago before I started doing the music retrospective - I’ll probably try to explore a little more as I do those.   If you guys want more conversation about one person in particular, let me know! 
But for now... 
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Matthew Morrison: Is a classically trained musician with a very good voice.  It’s a shame Will was such a tool, because Matthew Morrison was very talented, had the ability to do a lot of great things with his voice.  People joke about his rapping -- but I think this stemmed from the issue that his background is in musical theater -- which teaches you a cleaner and more traditional way of singing -- opposed to a pop or rap style.  He doesn’t have the grit that rap often has, which makes it a little too much like a Kid’s Bop version of something.  When singing musical theater, though, he really shined. 
A number that showcases ability: Make ‘Um Laugh
A number that isn’t so great: Ice Ice Baby
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Lea Michele: Lea does have a very good and solid voice.  She’s also been classically trained.  The one drawback is that it hinders her a bit on pop music, she lacks some of the grittiness often needed on a lot of the pop songs.  She also starts to lose some of her classic training as the show goes on (which I think is a shame) so that she can get some of the shine off her voice to make a transition to pop music.  
She has one vocal tick that drives me crazy, though -- she has a tendency to slide into her notes instead of hitting them dead on, which gets worse as the show goes on, and it makes her sound a little screech-y at times.  But for the most part -- she is really good. 
A number that showcases ability: Don’t Rain on My Parade
A number that isn’t so great: Ooops...I Did It Again
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Amber Riley: The cool thing about Amber is that you get to hear her grow as a musician as the show goes on.  She had already started to get vocal lessons before the show started, but at the beginning, she was still a bit raw and unrefined in her technique.  But you can tell she did practice, and her voice is developed beautifully as the show goes on.  She was one of the best, well rounded vocalists on the show.  She had a good handle on pop and R&B music, but she could sing musical theater rather clearly, too.  She has great breath support - and can belt numbers out while still retaining the quality.  Can’t say enough good thing about Amber’s voice. 
A number that showcases ability: Someday We’ll Be Together
A number that isn’t so great: Sweet Transvestite (It’s not bad - but it’s my least favorite Mercedes solo.) 
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Cory Monteith: Cory wasn’t a vocalist.  And, to be completely honest, I thought it was some kind of joke when they introduced him as some kind of hidden musical gem when Will hears him singing the showers.  He did really well with classic rock that’s allows not only for a weaker voice - but is often not as technically hard.  And I have to wonder if Cory got lessons, because he did get a lot better as the show went on, and I think his season 4 work is great! 
I will say that sometimes they pushed his voice a little too far.  A lot of times songs were either too high for his range and he often sounded like he was straining.  (The most notable of which is A House is Not a Home - which is far too high for him.)  That said - I think he did reasonably well along side Lea - mostly because often sang pop duets.  
A number that showcases ability: I’ve Gotta Be Me
A number that isn’t so great: Can’t Fight This Feeling Anymore
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Chris Colfer: Chris is such an interesting study due to the uniqueness of his voice.  He’s got a huge range both in terms of genre and literal range of voice.  He can sing quite a few octaves.  He’s got a great, clear sound, too, which is why he’s great with theater numbers.  Interestingly, Chris’s voice did drop over the years, and while I know people love his higher range, he has a gorgeous lower range that wasn’t used as often (and is often my favorite.) 
The one (nitpicky) issue was that Chris’s voice ended up getting pigeon-holed.  I know singing Diva-Broadway songs was his schtick - but it would have been nice to hear him sing a bigger variety of songs.  He wasn’t the strongest on non-ballad pop music, but they also didn’t give him that very often.  
There’s also the fascinating unusualness in that, Chris could really sing duets very well with people -- but in group numbers, his voice sticks out like a sore thumb, and he was often left out of some of the more general songs because of it.  His voice just doesn’t texture very well - which is why I get why they did what they did.  
A number that showcases ability: Being Alive
A number that isn’t so great: I’ll Remember
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Kevin McHale: I feel like people are often surprised when they sit down and think about it, but Kevin has a great voice.  He has a solid range, and he’s able to do pop music very well (I believe it helps that he was in a professional boy band for years.)  Not sure if people noticed - but he’s often the lead on group numbers that don’t need to be related to specific story or character points.  Which is a bummer for Artie’s story - but if you’re a fan of Kevin’s voice, you get a lot to choose from.  
Kevin was also able to handle a lot of the musical demands that I think some of the other males weren’t? He’s a much better singer than Cory - and could handle leading a full number.  His voice isn’t as unique as Chris’s and can texture really well.  In addition he was fairly versatile.  He might have been the best rapper the show had, lol. 
A number that showcases ability: For Once In My Life
A number that isn’t so great: Addicted to Love (personal taste choice - I just don’t like the song.) 
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Jenna Ushkowitz: Jenna is another one who is classically trained.  She has a strong, solid voice, which was unfortunately not showcased all that well on the show, and because of that, I’m not sure how she does on a wide variety of music.  I do think she sounds a little generic - but not helping is lack of being featured.  
A number that showcases ability: I Don’t Know How To Love Him
A number that isn’t so great: Gangum Style (She does fine - but the fact that they made her do it in the first place...) 
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Dianna Agron: The interesting thing about Dianna is that she has a really nice low female voice.  The fact that they never gave her any punk or harder rock was really a shame, because I think she would have done really well with that.  The funny thing is that, more so in the beginning, they show tried to make her sing songs that fit her character - but weren’t necessarily great for her voice.�� I feel like it wasn’t until late season 2 did they start really using her voice for the better.  
A number that showcases ability: Never Can Say Goodbye
A number that isn’t so great: It’s A Man’s, Man’s, Man’s World
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Mark Salling: Mark had a really solid voice - that often lent itself well to folk and acoustic really well.  He was good with softer pop and classic rock, and the show showcased that pretty well.  I think, in general, Mark was a much better vocalist than actor, and the show often picked good music for him to sing - which helped with his character.  I don’t have a whole lot to say, only that I think he was underrated as a vocalist, but I get it - with all the other baggage that comes with talking about Mark. 
A number that showcases ability: No Surrender 
A number that isn’t so great: Fight For Your Right (to Party) (I don’t think it’s bad - I just hate this song.) 
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Naya Rivera: Naya is a little tricky.  I think she has a good, smoky sound to her voice that makes her excellent at things like pop and R and B.  (Shame she didn’t have a good jazz number to do on the show - she would have been great at that.)  I think she was really versatile, though, and handled her Broadway numbers really well.  I do think she was somewhat pinched and nasal at times - and while I do think this was a stylistic choice, to me it’s not my favorite type of vocal sound.  But I do think she was really good at the numbers she was given, and was one of the most talented female vocalists on the show. 
A number that showcases ability: Back to Black
A number that isn’t so great: Alfie (I think I may dislike the song more than her singing on it.) 
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Heather Morris: Heather wasn’t a singer, and I do think it showed at times.  She often had to have her voice autotuned more than anyone else on the show.  That said - she did do Britney Spears really well, and I think she deserves credit for that.  
A number that showcases ability: I’m a Slave 4 U
A number that isn’t so great: Dinosaur
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Chord Overstreet: Chord’s background is in country - and that shows a bit through his singing - he’s got a bit of twang in his voice, but it’s not necessarily a bad thing.  He’s a fun singer.  I don’t think the show knew exactly what to do with him (voice or character) but there’s a lightness to his singing that makes him easily adaptable to pretty much anything you throw at him. 
A number that showcases ability: Red Solo Cup (You think I’m joking - but I think this is the most fun Chord has singing a song.) 
A number that isn’t so great: Girls on Film (I think just by default of me liking everything else better.) 
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Darren Criss: Ah, Darren, where to even start.  The thing about Darren is that he may not be the strongest singer, his voice is a little wobbly at times, and his range is somewhat limited, but his showmanship is just completely beyond nearly everyone else.  Darren has the unique ability to draw you in with his singing and hold you captive.  There are technically better singers on the show - but Darren just has this amazing ability to really sell a performance.  And I do love his voice, even if there are some limitations to it.  I really could gush about Darren’s performance abilities, but I’ll refrain... 
A number that showcases ability: Teenage Dream (Both Versions) 
A number that isn’t so great: Piano Man (Which isn’t bad - I just think the show had done it better, and it’s a rare time that felt like Darren was kind of phoning it in.) 
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A quick run down of others, but first a quick aside - as they started adding people in, vocal ability starts being a factor.  I think a lot of the newer characters could sing better than they could act, which was both helpful and a hinderance.  I think we began to get more solid musical numbers as the show went on, but sometimes acting wasn’t always top notch - and across the board, old and new, hitting a combo of acting and singing ability didn’t always happen.  
Harry Shum Jr.: Not really a singer - but the show often played to his strengths, and his few songs played off the fact that he wasn’t a great singer to great aplomb.  
Jane Lynch: Can hold a tune, even if her voice isn’t the best - is really great at musical comedy. 
Jayma Mays: She has more singing ability than the show allowed to showcase, however, she’s another one whose voice was really unique, and doesn’t texture very well.  
Damien McGinty: Is actually a very good singer.  However, he’s very generic, too - which makes him a little on the bland side. 
Sam Larsen: I think he was fine - I don’t think he sang enough on the show for me to make much of an impression one way or the other. 
Alex Newel: Fucking Fantastic! Alex might be one of the strongest vocalists on the show - has great range, energy, and vocal control.  
Melissa Benoist: Her voice tends to lean on the pop-ier side, but it’s a solid voice, and her work on the show was pretty good.  
Jacob Artist: Has a strong voice, and could sing genres that weren’t often featured on the show (like hip-hop and R&B).  
Blake Jenner: His voice is fine, but like Damien McGinty, it’s generic and a little bland. 
Becca Tobin: She has a very quirky voice that brings in a different and unique sound.  They didn’t use her much, though, so it’s hard to comment. 
Noah Guthrie: An amazing singer, has a really unique sound, but is able to do blend in well with others.  
Samantha Ware: Another amazing singer.  She’s in full control and can do really great things with it. 
Billy Lewis Jr: Has a good, solid voice.  Not as strong as Guthrie, or some of the other guys, but he’s a lot of fun to watch. 
Laura Dreyfuss: Like Becca Tobin - has a uniqueness to her vocal quality that makes it stand out a little, but she’s still a solid singer. 
Marshall Williams: His vocal ability is okay.  It’s better than his acting ability.  I’m slightly confused how this dude got cast, tbh.  
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centralcitysfinest-rp · 8 years ago
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Welcome to Central City, AJ! We’re glad to have you as our Music Meister.Please make your account with 24 hours and send it in! After you’ve made your account, please follow the main and check the members checklist. Enjoy your time here in Central! 
OOC INFORMATION
Name:  AJ
Age: 29
TimeZone: CST 
Activity: 7/8, I work full time but can sometimes hop on during the day to answer things. I am on in the evenings and on weekends.
Contact info: Just on this account: blainexwarblerxanderson
IC INFORMATION:
Character Wanted: Music Meister
Face Claim: Darren Criss
Age: 30
Codename: Music Meister
Occupation: Criminal – Bank Robber, Con Man, Art and Diamond Thief, Musician
Skills: Ability to hypnotize people to do his will with his higher pitched singing voice, ability to induce coma like slumber and trap individuals in their own dreamscape musical movie plots in their minds
Sexuality: Pansexual
Species: Metahuman
Status: Villain
BIOGRAPHY:
Past: The beginnings of Music Meister are quite unknown. His real name, place of origin all remain a secret, even after his arrest by the DEO he simply said (or rather sang) ‘Music Meister is all I know’. He has admitted that his childhood was tough though - he was always smaller than the other kids and instead of wanting to join in and play little league baseball or other silly children’s games, he would spend hours playing the piano, taking to the piano notes like a fish to water. Deemed ‘weird’ by the school bullies, he would often get picked on and promised that one day the bullies would no longer get the upper hand.
It is unknown when Music Meister first started his road to being a supervillain. However, the Central City Police considered crimes going back three years to the particle accelerator explosion at Star Labs. The police department found that weeks after the explosion, there were multiple reports of bank robberies, art thefts and missing jewels that fit his MO - a man would enter the location, he would start singing and soon enough those around him were quite literally help the man load up a van with whatever he had stolen. Estimates have amounts of money he’s gotten away with in the millions: jewels, money, artwork, he does have rather expensive tastes.
Unknown how he could cross dimensions, however finding a way to do so, Music Meister showed up in National City and was allegedly the thief of several National City Bank heists. The DEO was tracking the unusual circumstances of the heists and were finally able to arrest him (or so they thought). All part of his much grander scheme of getting the DEO’s attention, he allowed himself to be arrested so that he could get closer to Supergirl, who at that very moment as he was led in, just so happened to have the teleportation button in her hand. Thank you Supergirl by the way! With his adoring audience watching he took his final curtain bow and stepped into this dimension where he was after the fastest man alive. Toodles!
Present: Finally managing to catch the attention of the scarlet speedster, The Flash, just as he had done to Supergirl, he placed Barry Allen under a coma like slumber and trap him within his own mind to follow through with his own musical movie plot. With the two out of the way it allowed for Music Meister to rob the Central City Bank – though it did lead to his subsequent capture by Kid Flash, Martian Manhunter, and Vibe. He was placed into a cell and unfortunately once an individual is stuck in their coma like slumber there’s nothing Music Meister can do about it – his powers don’t work like that and it’s up to the individual to rescue themselves and see the plot through.
With his own set of skills though, the Music Meister escaped the quaintly decorated little cell he had been placed in and well, after all his handy work, it seemed The Flash and Supergirl and their subsequent love interests managed to save themselves. He was after all trying to teach them a lesson and well whatever did happen to that money he stole from the Central City Bank? Consider it his fee for his helping services and don’t forget to have ‘a little love in your heart’. Off he went to go about his trickster ways and who knows what mischief he’s up to next.
Secrets: Music Meister is a secret all on its own, no one knows who he is and what his past is all about; other than a few dropped hints, he uses assumed names, usually starting with ‘M’ but who knows if any of those are real or not. He doesn’t play well with others and if he is working with someone you must wonder that his ulterior motives are.
Negative traits: Arrogant,Secretive, Cunning Positive traits: Talented, Energetic, Clever
Please answer the below questions (in detail) in character:
–If you could go back and change one specific about your past, what would it be? “I don’t even know why I’m answering this stupid thing, but hey, you know, what the hell, for the entertainment value of it. Let’s get to know the Music Meister a little bit more. I mean I’m not just a pretty face and in love with the power of song, money, jewels, expensive artwork….one thing I would change about my past…..I laugh a little because this is going to be very heartfelt and without this, I don’t know if I would be the man I am today. But as a child, from the moment I first saw a piano, I was enthralled by its black slickness and white ivory keys. I loved listening to every note it made and I wanted to know everything about it. I loved sitting there on the piano bench, my fingers just relaxing over the keys spread out before me. It was like this was just for me and a feeling no one could take a way. I would spend hours sitting there and playing; I had a thirst for knowledge when it came to music. I finished my workbooks before my piano teachers could even tell me what to do for lessons. I wanted to know everything about. I loved singing and making up notes, my own notes, it was like a window into my soul when I played. But the other kids didn’t understand that. When they were off in the summer playing soccer in the field and trying to get me to come join their playtime, I didn’t want to join in. I’d sit on the sidelines and drawing notes in a journal, humming to myself my own music. How I loved being creative with all of it. As kids are often very cruel though, the fact I wouldn’t come and play with him, they would tease and bully me. I remember being chased by a couple larger kids into a corner; they grabbed my music notebook from my hand and began tearing and ripping pages out of it, laughing and taunting me to do something to stop them. But I couldn’t. I wasn’t any kind of athlete. I was always small for my age and all I could do was watch as my great works were shredded before my eyes, I cried. I cried not for the words they threw at me, but for my lost notes and hours spent. Up until then, I never knew what it was like to hate anyone. I hated those kids, those bullies. When they finally left me, I mourned over my lost music. I swore to myself that day that I would never let anyone have that kind of control over me again. I wouldn’t let them take anything from me again. If I could change anything, I’d go back and tell myself that I wasn’t powerless then, just as I’m not now, and that no matter what those bullies do, they’ll get what’s coming for them. And believe me, they definitely did.”  
–If you could tell one person your darkest fear, who would you tell and what would you tell them? “Firstly, you’ll learn fast that there’s only one person in this life you can depend on, and that’s yourself. To answer your question who would I tell, not a single damn soul out there. No one should have that kind of knowledge about me. I am a one-man show! For arguments sake, since I’m hoping I’m the only one reading this and whoever the mysterious man (or woman) behind the curtain is so to speak. Darkest fear…I guess this would go hand in hand with my previous answer. Feeling small, powerless, and forgotten. I always believed I was meant for so much more than a simple life – I would have working as a nine to fiver, getting up every morning and doing the same job day in and day out for what? A mortgage? Taxes? No, that would be too simplistic. I would hate to have to report my life to someone and have my actions controlled. That’s the problem that are so-called heroes have. They live by a set of rules that hold them back and they’re not truly free. Someone is always watching their moves. No thank you. I love my life the way I want to and that’s just the way its going to stay.”
 PARA SAMPLE
Fresh off the dimensional portal and making his grand escape from the DEO, thanks again to Supergirl for the ticket to this dimension, parting after all was such sweet sorrow - a curly head of hair looked up at the tall skyscrapers that made up the city. A smirk danced across his features. Central City was in for a rude awakening with its newest arrival – he after all had plans as previously announced. He was out to catch the Fastest Man Alive and he was sure with a little must of mischief the scarlet speedster would come to find him. Barry Allen had no idea what had just rocked his world.
On cursory looks, the Music Meister, whose name remained a mystery, didn’t inspire a second glance. Dark haired and average in height, he looked like a traveling musician who might busk on the street corner for a dollar or two. No one would suspect the dark motivations lying underneath. The early thirty-year-old was up to his old tricks. Why not have some fun while he caught the eye of the speedster. And he had just the target! In one hand, folded over to the Arts and Culture section of the Central City Picture News, the Central City Museum had a visiting collection of Modern and Contemporary Art on display all that week. He did have some expensive taste and that Degas shown there on the paper wet his appetite. Music Meister fully intended to go and be a paying member of society to view the work, nothing nefarious about that. Though those dark little thoughts that usually got him into trouble was that he was already plotting how he would rob the museum later that night. The guards would help him walk right out with that Degas and hopefully that would catch the attention of his much bigger fish to prey on. 
Off to the museum it was! And yes, that very afternoon, after a twenty-dollar entry into the museum, which in his mind was highway robbery, he took his time inspecting the Contemporary Gallery – counting guards, looking at paintings or rather the security on them. He looked like any other tourist enjoying his time. When the museum closed, he left without a thought, and waited there just across the street as the lights went dark and traffic settled for the evening. Hazel eyes gleamed with a twinkle, waltzing right up to the front entrance of the museum like he owned the place. He timed it just perfectly as the security guard rounded the corner from his outside patrol and yelled at him to freeze. Holding up his hands, he was obviously unarmed as he faced security; the guard demanded to know what he was doing there.
With this sickly-sweet pitch to his voice he sang, “I am the Music Meister and I’m here to settle the score!” Having had years to put together the perfect notes that allowed him to hypnotically control a much weaker mind, the guard was under his spell and doing his bidding, unlocking the front door of the museum and strolling right on in with the Music Meister by his side. Any other guards they met  up with soon found themselves under the villains tutelage. Using them as he had with many other weaker minds from the past, he had the guards remove the Degas from the wall, purposefully setting off the alarms to get the attention he wanted.
“Thank you gentleman, you’ve been wonderful, I’ll take it from here.” Taking the painting from the guards, Music Meister strolled right out the front door and imagine his delight as a streak of what looked like red energy showed up there at the bottom of the steps. Making a show to check his watch on his left wrist, “I’m almost disappointed, Flash. I expected you here sooner. Maybe you aren’t the Fastest Man Alive as everyone claims.”
Anything Else?:
This is kind of my own spin on the character since we don’t know a whole lot about Music Meister, I kind of mashed in things from the Brave and the Bold, the CW Musical Crossover, and sort of my own musings for the character. Plus, the character was kind of crazily powered up in the CW crossover and I wanted to scale that back a little and make him more human-ish.
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