#molly and tj

[cheesysocsandart]

so yeh I drew Todd/Scratch being dad. I love fond family trope qwq

[britannv101]

Don’t get me wrong. I totally feel for Molly and her pain at not being able to carry a child in her own. And I totally feel that once you adopt a child, it’s as if you gave birth to them. But like….how did she and T.J think this was gonna work out? Did they really think that Kristina was just gonna pop this kid out (her biological child mind you, not just A random surrogates egg) and everyone was just gonna forget that Kristina was apart of it’s conception/DNA? Like did they really believe that Sonny and Kristina’ paternal siblings would ever look at that child and not compare her to Kristina? It really never crossed their minds that they could be raising Kristina’s mini me?

And can we just talk about T.Js entire attitude towards Alexis for the past couple of weeks just cause she didn’t want to get in the middle of the girls?! Like Bro, she warned you this was gonna happen and y’all didn’t listen to her. So no, she’s not gonna abandoned one daughter for the other. Like just watching him run over to give Ric a hug (for just showing up to a funeral, not actually being a supportive parental figure to him for the last decade like Alexis has!) made me want to scream.

[anyathefandom]

Oh the things I've seen Kristina say when it comes to the baby.🥴 Like damn I get you're hurt but at the end of the day of course tolly were going to name THEIR baby.

Sidenote: yeah I'm glad I stayed away from that sl because I already knew a headache was going to be waiting for me every time I tuned in.🥴

[halfwayinlight]

"you were going through the same thing as me. on top of being worried about your sister" TJ Ashford

so... yeah, TJ didn't give a crap about Kristina. She's nothing but a screw up to him. He's never cared about her as part of his family-- the family he chose to join in a civil union with Molly

[pettyprocrastination]

Found myself in a depression pit and unable to force myself to go to the gym for a solid week- finally got myself back into it today and holy fuck I forgot how nice it feels

[burned-lariat]

To whoever decided to have TJ as the controlling asshole (and not Molly), please step on infinite legos.

[lungthief]

doodles from our first power rangers kids on bikes session :)

[ghposts]

Definitely feel like TJ and Molly will be breaking up soon

[bklynmusicnerd]

I still don't like the way Molly's infertility is being written but I felt myself being a little relieved at her wanting to pause on the whole baby thing. It's the most Molly has actually sounded like Molly since the story started. They'll probably write it as her temporarily running away from what she really wants.

But it would have been refreshing to have Molly, in contrast to the bizarre baby agenda on this show, realize that she actually wants to be child free, while TJ still wants to have a kid eventually. Then we could see a natural break between the two of them over a difference that happens all the time irl, and would be a good callback to TJ wanting to have a traditional marriage and Molly not really wanting that.

TJ and Molly gradually growing apart because they want fundamentally different things in life could have been a good story. It's not gonna be the story here, but maybe it should've been.

[wildwren]

some thoughts about Molly Seagrim (and Tom)

I’ve been meaning to write some meta about Molly for a while, because she deserves it, and because I have lot to say re: what I dislike about Fielding’s treatment of her, what I find compelling, and what choices I might have made differently if I was writing the adaptation.

So I really dislike the way Molly is framed in the novel, because I find it lazy, misogynistic, and uninteresting. Fielding is SO harsh about Molly and particularly about her vanity, which he wants us to know is not equal to her beauty or any of her other merits. Ugh. Especially on my first read, I found the resolution of the affair incredibly annoying, in that it requires Molly to be acting selfishly in ways that excuse Tom at her expense, and leave the egg much more on her face than on his.

Still, I do think Molly COULD be a very compelling character, and her relationship with Tom is quite essential to the overall storyline, as it informs Tom’s relationships with women for the rest of the novel. When Tom’s relationship with Molly is first introduced, he truly believes that because Molly had sex with him, it must mean that she loves him and wants to marry him and that she would quite literally die if he ever left her. To be fair, Molly also feeds him this story, which is another frustrating part of her characterization, because Fielding can’t really seem to decide what her motivations are — is she just vain? Greedy? Stupid? Broken hearted over a different lover? He puts forward all of these as explanations at different points without adequately developing any of them, and it results in some of his most frustrating and incoherent character work.

HOWEVER, there are plenty of interesting nuggets in this arc, most notably that Tom, of course, eventually discovers that Molly doesn't actually really care much about him at all, and is mostly just interested in having sex, and frankly, having varied sexual experiences with different people, which like !!!!! valid!!!!!!!!! Learning this about Molly vastly improves their relationship and Tom continues to respect her and be friends with her for the rest of his life. Please note, I'm separating Tom's feelings about her from Fielding's less-than-glowing narratorial commentary about her, which continues to be pretty shitty. But this understanding that Tom develops -- that women's sexual desires are their own and can exist separately from the men who have "debauched" them -- is pretty fundamental to informing his actions for the rest of the book.

Personally, if I were the one writing the adaption, I think I would have leaned more into exploring Tom’s projections about what Molly wants (and poke fun at him for it as he deserves!), rather than Molly actively manipulating him, and/or explored the more tragic elements of why Molly thinks she needs to frame her own non-romantic desire as love. I think those bits are the most interesting part of the arc and focusing on them would have probably resulted in a more satisfying characterization for me. Instead, it seems like Hughes decided to agree with Fielding that Molly is just sort of annoying and immature. Which, while certainly valid things for women to be, are simply not that interesting to me as primary character traits.

ALSO, there's actually another Molly-Tom scene in the novel that I think is pretty relevant. After Tom discovers Molly with Square (this is a different character than Thwackum, who she is discovered with in the show. They combined Thwackum and Square into a single guy for clarity). After he realizes she's not actually in love with him and they part ways, Molly and Tom have sex again.

This scene was cut from the adaptation and I understand why (lolololololololol) but it's actually one of my favorite scenes in the first act, because I think it illustrates what I'm trying to say about Tom. now that Molly and Tom have admitted and accepted what they really are to each other, they can engage in casual sex for fun to the mutual benefit of them both, and Tom still respects her right to safety and honor in this context. They actually get caught and Tom gets in a fight with Blifil and Thwackum so that she can escape without being discovered, which is a huge contribution to why Tom eventually gets kicked out of Allworthy's house. This is what I mean when I say it's not just Tom sleeping around that gets him villainized, but Tom's desire to see women as people and to relate to sex itself (and sexual women) as morally neutral that makes him so reprehensible to so many of the other characters in the novel. Anyway it's a great scene, very dirty, very horny, it also has some top-tier masturbation innuendo, 10/10 highly recommend.

In conclusion, I think the adaptation could have done a lot worse when it came to Molly, but I think I'd have been more pleased if their choices engaged with the source material in a slightly more critical way.

[cheesysocsandart]

Hhhhh I just wanna draw cute family stuff so I gave them a kid and I'm super shy but I love them sm and I get comfort from them ahhhh

[britannv101]

GH 8/1/24

-Freaking TJ questioning Alexis’s loyalty to Molly. IF YOU HAD LISTENED TO HER 8 MONTHS AGO,YALL WOULDNT BE IN THIS SITUATION! Damn they have turned him into a tool! Before this storyline, he never had a mean word to say about Kristina, now she’s enemy #1. Can’t wait for them to find out at about Kristina, then he’ll see just how far Alexis would go for her daughters!

-Freakin watch it be Lois that figures out what’s going on with Sonny! She’s probably the one person who’s too stubborn to let him push her out of his life.

-It’s all over for Ava now, the second Sonny and Alexis find out about Kristina they’re gonna be out for her blood! Especially when they get the photos! At this point, they’re either gonna give Avery to Sonny…or they’ll put her in foster care which will set Carly or Michael to get her. I can also see Dante stepping up but it’s more dramatic for it to be Michael and Carly cause Sonny sees them as traitors and it will kill Ava to see Avery with “Mama Carly”

-Thank God Krissy landed in the pool! Hopefully the baby is okay, chances are they’ll have her in a coma, she’ll wake up in time to deliver and forget that she was gonna give the baby to Molly and that starts a whole war!

….Im just over Jagger/Cates right now. Can he leave already? Like geez Louise, what did Karen ever see in him?! Even today, after being with Ava, he literally said he wouldn’t be caught seen with her and then acted like he owned the place when Trina was there!

[anyathefandom]

Random thought: I honestly can see them writing Kristina being so desperate to have another baby and also scornful towards Molly that she would set out to seduce tj.🤷

[halfwayinlight]

am I the only one who thought Kristina was initially being arrested for the miscarriage? like, I legit assumed TJ brought charges

now i think we're all waiting for TJ or Molly to bring charges against her. this is SUCH a dumb plot

[pettyprocrastination]

Thinking about how when Ethan dies Marcus does keep his promise to watch over you. Almost selfishly, he becomes viciously protective. Quickly snapping at any “well meaning” bachelor who comes with flowers to express their condolences (once the first mourning period is over of course) because he knows all they want is the estate that is now in your name and a chance to marry the wealthy young widow who has been left to herself. he visits more than anybody else does, if not at a distance at first, and then slowly becoming a constant in your life. At first its because you’re all he has. His swear to his lover that had begun as bittersweet pillow talk that became a deathbed desire. You’re the only connection he has left to ethan in this world and he’ll kill somebody before letting it go. But as time goes on he begins to see you for who you are and understands why his lover was so fond of you for all these years. 

[burned-lariat]

I can't help but like Dex & Molly. They're cute, they're really cute. OMG.