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#mini meta because this isn't particularly detailed but
oathofmoonlight · 2 years
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Mini-Meta: Suigetsu, Kaguya's Abilties
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Technically speaking, Kaguya's patron was not actually Suigetsu. It is her sword, Onus. It was Suigetsu until he took her burdens—the repressed guilt and anger over her family's fate, the lingering spirits she was carrying with her, and most importantly, the curse—and created Onus for her. That includes the magic from that curse, which was an immense amount of power. Suigetsu himself once said that the burdens she'd been carrying were incredibly powerful, and that her blade was one of the best he'd forged. All that to say—Kaguya has not lost her abilites as a paladin, despite her "patron" being dead and being set adrift from her own world.
Now, does this mean Kaguya herself is a deity? Eh, not really. But she is definitely nearing demigod status. Suigetsu, frankly, didn't have much power of his own to inherit. He had very few followers, and was nearly a forgotten god upon Kaguya's discovery of him. He himself did not know what he was a god of or even his former name—Suigetsu was the name of the sword Kaguya originally obtained that allowed her to meet him in the first place. He destroyed that sword upon forging Onus. So, like, what does that mean?
Well, since this is my city now and my DM has no power here (until I get him to admit what happened to my beloved you idiots 🥺), I choose to believe Kaguya inherited some of Suigetsu's remaining power. Again, this is more demigod powerful than actual deific powerful. Still pretty well beyond your normal mortal, but not, like, force of nature powerful. Mind you, she herself doesn't necessarily know the full extent of these abilities. The main one, however, is that In her main verse, her "home" isn't any one world, but Suigetsu's demiplane: a small pocket dimension which appears to be a very beautiful garden and shrine. She can travel between worlds freely (though I would say it takes her several months to even realize that).
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idothingsandstuffs · 1 year
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Hey, wanna hear my theory/headcanon about Kirby's power, if no too bad because I am talking about it anyways.(Also this is kind of inspired by the Kirby is a positive void theory.)
My theory is that, how happy Kirby is that powerful he is and being sad don't make him as strong, let me explain.
Evidence number one: Strength Inconsisties
Kirby fights with enemies, mini bosses and bosses but, we've been shown that Kirby could hit a mateor with a wodden baseball and make it go light years away, in matter of seconds,
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And litterly punch a planet in half.
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(Yes I know this are mini games and have quistinable canonity but it isn't as fun.)
With that amount of strength Kirby would destroy more than half of this guys with a slide kick, and I know what some of you will say "that is a video game of course they can't make him that overpowered.) for that I remind you of the elevator cutscene, if you played forgotten land you'll know that elevator scene (the one dedede puts himself in danger to save a waddle dee), in that scene Kirby tries to keep the elevator door open but he clearly strugers.
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Yes he does slow down the elevator, but from what have we seen Kirby could stop it fully. All of this, to me has multiple implications:
1. That elevator and everything in the Kirby universe is way to powerful that goku would be average at best.
2. The game makers makes Kirby's power level depending on what would be the funniest at the momment.
3., and the one that I'm making a full theory post about: Kirby's power is related to his emotions.
Think about it when Kirby sends a mateor light years away or punches a planet in half, it is mini games and Kirby seems to be happy or relaxed, while in the elevator scene he wouldn't be that happy and he is possibly in distress, I mean one of his closest friends could get seriously hurt, yeah a mateor would crash right into him, but since it was a mini game and Kirby wears a backwards baseball cap and competes against other versions of himself, I don't think he takes this seriously. Speaking of other versions of himself.
Evidence number two: Clones
In Kirby star allies meta knight, after getting corrupted by jamba heart, can clone himself.
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You can say that jamba heart give him that ability and he somehow keep using it, but from the game you can come into the conculusion that jamba heart makes people reach potentials they never reached before and meta knight cloning being one of them but if that's the case, Kirby alerdy reached that potential and I am not talking about amazing mirror or mass attack, I am talking about the victory dance. In the early games Kirby could clone himself to dance (I am pretty sure he does that in one of his smash victory posses in smash, although I think he only does that if that was a solo battle) and to dance after what, after defeating a stage or a boss, after getting progress in his adventure and as he gets closer to his goal after that he would naturally be happy.
Evidence number three: The Void theory
I don't want to explain this here because every youtuber who ever talked about the Kirby lore alerdy talk about this, for summary it is basicly a theory that says Kirby is a reincarnation of void with positive emotions, if you want a more detailed explanation for the theory and the void go to a YouTube video called "Void Termina | What is Kirby Canon?" by meteorz, or any other lore video, I just thought that was the best option if you are just interested only in that theory. Now to a question that I am sure I'll be getting.
"What about the final bosses, Kirby can't be happy while fighting them, and also he can't be that happy while his loved ones were being controlled against their own will, if that elevator scene made him weak enough that he couldn't stop an elevator how could he defeat all the things he has defeated?"
My theory for that is, determination to save the day, kind of weakens the effect of the sadness or he was particularly sad in the elevator scene, for the most of the games, he could have a "I am going to stop bad guy from doing bad guy things and when I do that everything will go back to normal." veiew while in that scene if he didn't go with the elevator he could be to late to save elfline (and also he would leave two, unarmed, waddle dees to go to the guys who putted in cages through the whole game) so I leaving the elevator wasn't that optimal of a choice for him so best he could do is trying to keep the elevator door open as long as possible.
Is it a little far stretched, yes. But is it also fun to think about, for me also yes.
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