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#miraculous ladybug#watched the london special and immediately clocked the shinji chair pose#loved this episode#everyone's going through it!!#and i adore how much marinette's steadfast ideals are being challenged#irt being someone who highly values the truth being put in a position where she has to lie so heavily to the people she loves#and it's fascinating! because no one is forcing her to do this but herself#she's making this choice and she hates it#and is desperately trying to convince herself that it's the right thing#but it still leaves her miserable#but what else can she do?#i think that's such a great angle to take her character and i'm so intrigued to find out how this all crashes and burns#marinette dupain cheng u r the moment of all time <333#me rambling in the tags about marinette for a simple adrien edit: it's more likely than you think#adrien agreste#edit: rip i went through the tags and found someone made this exact joke in october#post canceled :pensive:
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Hello, I apologize if you have already answered what I am about to ask. When you write a story how do you develop the plot? And do you ever think about plot holes? If so how do you prevent those?
Hi, Anon. Thanks for asking!
I start with my idea. Sometimes itâs as simple as âit would be hilarious if Maddie saw Phantom get hit with the Booo-merang when she knows it reacts to her sonâ. Sometimes itâs a paragraph or two or ten of random ideas smushed together(technical term)--this is more or less the stage my DPxML fic is at. Thereâs a lot of me going, âOooh, this would be funâ or âooh, or I could do thisâ, and Iâll actually talk to myself like that in my notes. Itâs long, ramble-y, grammatically incorrect, and basically the equivalent of me brainstorming some sort of initial idea, the root of the story. (Iâm already rambling, so the rest of the answer will be under a read more.)
I then start doing a bit of research on stuff Iâll need to write the story. Depending on how long Iâve been in a fandom, this can be very basic stuff (peopleâs names) to more specific things (what day does Adrien have fencing?) and will always include some sort of cheat sheet for myself if the characters use slang (like Randy. And Jake.). If I come up with any ideas--or potential ideas--while doing that, I jot them down. Even if itâs a couple lines of dialogue or a way to end a scene, at some point, if I can write that scene into the story (eg Gwaine saw Merlinâs eyes glow gold.) All of this starts in my initial fic document and eventually gets moved to a scrap file associated with that fic. Do not delete ideas/scenes/dialogue/anything even if you arenât currently using it. You might be able to recycle them into a different fic or later in the current story.
Then I start writing. To see if itâll work. Even if I donât have a very clear idea of where things are going yet, and certainly no idea of the end. Sometimes I need to try a few different ways to start a story (Reflections went through various iterations. Mockingbird and my DPxML fic are still in that stage) before I find one that seems to flow. Thatâs when I look at the situation the characters are in (or about to be in) and try to figure out their actions and reactions to the stuff Iâm putting them through. And then I try to let that drive the plot. Itâs something Iâve gotten better at over time--making it less obvious that the characters are doing that because thatâs the way I want the story to go--but my best plots tend to be character-driven. (This may or may not help you avoid some plot holes. Depends on what the plot hole is. Itâll hopefully help you cut down on the âwell, why didnât they do that like they always do?â sort.)
If you need a character to do something thatâs not in character for your plot to go the way you want, you need to give them a reason to act out of character (eg Danny not telling Jake his secret because thereâs a paranormal studies/ghost hunters convention in town--and because Jazz keeps ragging on him). If you canât give them that reason, then you need to find another way to achieve what you want to happen without them doing that--or change your initial idea for the plot. Even if you start with a plan in mind, you will probably have to tweak it at some point. This is normal. Youâre just adapting to your story. Sometimes, a story will get away on you--itâll write itself in a direction you werenât expecting or past the point where youâd initially figured it would end (hello, Treachery)--but, at least in my experience, if itâs the characters driving the story that way, and you let them, it can actually turn out to be a better story than what youâd initially planned. (Again: Treachery. The unplanned part ie second half is much better than the planned part.) Itâs just a matter of keeping them reasonably in character so that things donât get too out of hand.Â
I only think about plot holes once I notice them. Honestly, Iâve gotten good at patching. If something doesnât occur to me, I canât prevent writing it in. Itâs not so much plot hole prevention for me as adaptation of the story to make it more acceptable once I realize itâs there.
Sometimes, when Iâm editing a chapter or rereading something to remind myself of the story thus far/whatâs happened, Iâll see something that doesnât work that Iâd missed before. (Random note on the âremembering whatâs happenedâ bit: if you plan a long fic taking place over multiple days, do yourself a favour and make a timeline for yourself in your scrap file. So much easier. Thatâll allow you to make accurate references like âlast weekâ and âthree days agoâ. I did this with Shattered and regretted nothing.) Once I notice a plot hole, I consider the damage. Have I posted something where itâs already stated? If I havenât, repairing it typically isnât that hard, though of course it depends on what it is--you just need to give it some justification, shaky or otherwise, or do a bit of rewriting to patch it up. Once itâs firmly written in and you donât notice it until chapters later, your best bet is writing in justification for it later. In some cases, this involves you turning your plot hole into a plot point. It may be a small plot point or it might be a significant one that will actually shift your intended story a little bit. I did this a lot with my earlier Doctor Who crossovers. I got quite good at retroactive patching there, and my plot hole turned into foreshadowing, although in all fairness all of those involved time travel to one degree or another so that made things a bit easier; I didnât have to stick to the rules of the actual universe.Â
So hereâs a plot hole of mine thatâs recent that you might have noticed if youâve read Down the Rabbit Hole: the note on Tobyâs bed. Why...why are they communicating that way? Why go to the trouble of sending a note to him that way? Why not just phone or text or email? I missed that initially. And now I see it. And now I have justification (that hasnât yet appeared in-fic) for not communicating by normal 21-century means. Depending on how things go, it might be hinting at something bigger, or it might just be a small one-off thing.
Now, in case youâre interested in my disaster of a âplanning paragraphâ, this was how Masks began--and please bear in mind Iâd seen ten episodes, subbed, at this point and wasnât entirely sure on what stuff was called:
Blademaster. Fights with knives. Unless itâs someone fromAdrienâs fencing class; the transformation could make that thing deadly sharp.Thatâs better, actually. Go with that. Marinette actually beats Adrien to thetransformation because she was skulking around waiting for him to come outafter class/lesson/club/whatever it is is over (to just âhappen to be thereâand try to ask him to catch a movie or something in casual conversation) andheard the commotion, while he got caught up in the fleeing people beforemanaging to sidestep and transform. Ladybug hasnât managed to get the swordaway from Blademaster in the meantime and nearly gets the cord of her luckycharm thing cut for her trouble. Chat Noir shows up and pretty much fences withhis quarterstaff thing until Blademaster starts to cheat, at which point hevaults over him and tags him from behind, hoping the distraction is enough forLadybug to free herself from whatever she ended up in. Evil moth guy isdemanding the gems, so Blademaster starts trying to take a slice out of ChatNoir, who evades rather than parries, trying to draw Blademaster awayfromâŚsomethingâŚand Ladybug takes over when heâs backed into a corner and needsto turn to scale the wall. She yells at him to get the something away if heâsfigured out what Blademaster is afterâshe hasnât, yet; just that the blade isprobably what the akuma is inâand Adrien, being there for the transformation,knows exactly what happened and can oblige. But he isnât long out the door whenhe hears Ladybug scream; Blademaster had either grabbed another blade orsomehow acquired something sharpâIâve never fenced; Iâm not entirely sure howsharp those things areâand while avoiding one blow, she jolted off the courseof the other and got her earlobe sliced off/the gem ripped out. Blademaster hasa gemâmoth guy is rejoicing and demanding he now get the other oneâandMarinette, with one hand clamped to her ear, has to get out of there despitethe pain because as much as she needs to get Tikki (?) back, she doesnât wantto risk her identity andâmore importantlyâsheâs not sure how much longer shecan remain upright. She hits the change room or office or something, aiming fora first aid kit or at least a wad of toilet paper, and Chat Noir is shocked theLadybug is gone. He manages to defeat Blademaster and retrieve her gem, but itis inactive, and while he manages to catch the dark butterfly in a fencingmask, he doesnât have the means to banish its evil OR to erase the ill that hashappened here; thatâs Ladybugâs turf. But how is he supposed to return hergemâreturn herâwhen he doesnât knowwho she is, and his own transformation is wearing off? (Marinette will bepulling a new hairstyle or modelling a hat or just plain skipping schoolâifthere IS school; what day was fencing class again?âand getting Alya to coverfor her with her parents on the pretence that sheâs trying to work up thecourage to do something with Adrien, perhaps, and she really doesnât want tohave that conversation with her mom,when in reality sheâs just trying to find Tikki. Not sure what happened withTikki, exactly. Needs to regain energy, which Plagg (?) would know and informChat Noir accordingly, but with them trying to keep secrets from each otherâŚ.)
and that will give way to notes like this:
Tikki, PlaggMiracle Stones/MiraculousHawkmoth
Ladybug â lucky charm at end, always ends up with somethingshe doesnât know what to do with at first and then figures it out; yo-yocompact; BOTH EARRINGS for the miracle stonesâŚbut maybe ripping one out woulddeactivate the other. She is the ONLY ONE who can cleanse the akumas. Chat Noir â (allergic to feathers), ancient destruction/cataclysm; batonYeah, if that ring comes off, the Kwami is forced out and the detransformationis right awayPlagg is SUCH a glutton, heâll even chase after stuff he thinks is food
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Okay. Adrien picks up Tikki and Miracle Stone, so Marinettefinds nothing and tries to track down Chat Noir, but Tikki, once recovered, canjust tell Adrien who Marinette is. Problem solved. Thatâs not fun. Unless Tikkidecides to respect Marinetteâs wishes?
Or maybe they each find one earring, and Tikki isnât wellbecause theyâre divided?
Adrien and Marinette can both find nothingâMarinette because she hasnât achance to look, Adrien because he doesnât know TO lookâbut unless Tikkiâstrapped there, she gotta be able to get out.
Wait, Adrienâs chivalrous. Heâll respect Ladybugâs wishes.Even if he hates it
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If Plagg canât see, when they transform, Adrien wonât beable to see, either.
âWhat do you mean, I canât transform?ââIf we transform, this thing would get sucked in, too, and you wonât be able to do anything.â [lines from the Rogercop episode]
Statue set on green stone (granite?) with the top edgejutting out about chin height for Adrien
-------------------------Nope, gonna have to go back and change Blademasterâs restoration to Phillipebecause that DOES seem to be after Ladybugâs restoration. [turns out I was right the first time with this, but Iâd checked with someone else and theyâd thought no one changed back until after the Miraculous Ladybug bit, so Iâd changed my initial plans here, and a few months later we got an episode that confirmed that, no, the magic link just needs to be broken, things donât need to be fixed yet.]
#ladylynse#asks#my writing#writing advice#kinda#the don't delete your scrapped ideas is writing advice#my writing advice#for what it's worth#Anonymous
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