#making it a cat fight/like season 8🙄

[milkteahoe]

Some of yall are so stupid and dumb I can’t take it anymore

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I think it’s absurd that Thomas says “Adrien is a Ken, deal with it,” while also having the actual character feeling like garbage for being treated like a prop and *actively says* that he wants to be treated as important instead of replaceable, and gets angry about all the people pushing him off to the sidelines. If Adrien was the one deciding to have that role, like Ken in that one episode you mentioned in your previous post, then great! But, wait… no, that would actually be giving Adrien agency over his life 🙄 Because Thomas and the other writers seem determined to have choices made for him by other characters (which is not what Ken is). They set up a character whose life is strictly controlled, and wants independence and to be seen as trustworthy and competent- therefore setting up a potential character arc- only to double down on something eerily similar to the very thing he was fighting against (I.e. being relegated to following orders without question and having to accept not being privy to important info from people close to him).

Not to mention how they did actually set up an equal partnership idea simply because the ladybug and black cat are *yin and yang.* That’s not the dynamic of Barbie and Ken, what even Thomas.

(Before we begin, this is the 4-minute long Barbie episode in question and this is the post that spawned this ask in case anyone wants full context)

It's super weird. The reason Ken being Barbie's boyfriend and nothing else works is because Ken is ultimately just a random nice guy who is dating Barbie. He doesn't have any complex drama going on in his life so his background role doesn't come across like he's being treated poorly in most Barbie media (though there are some movies I have beefs with. Looking at you Fashion Fairytale. WTF kind of lesson was that?)

It also helps that Barbie media is all short form content. A one-off movie or stuff like the Life in the Dream House shorts. Media where there's simply not time for the side characters to get much development. Sometimes there's not even time for Barbie to get much development! That makes it a terrible comparison for a show like Miraculous whose current run time is over forty hours! (5 seasons of 26, 20-minute episodes is over 8 hours a season.)

If they wanted Adrien to be a Ken, then they needed to write him as a Ken: a nice guy without a whole lot going on in his life. Instead they gave Adrien the sort of complex backstory and narrative role that naturally makes everyone expect him to be a deuteragonist or even a co-protagonist! It's a fascinatingly bad writing choice.

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season 1, episode 8 “bad blood” discussion list

I just want to make a small note:

in TID, they say that hunting downworlders without cause is against the accords as is keeping spoils. the show never did state they were going to make things accurate as the books and I’m thankful for that- but when I was doing my rewatch, I noticed something odd. when Magnus is fighting that circle member in episode 4, he stated how he just killed that weakling with the horns (Elias) and said cat eyes would be a nice addition to his collection. I know that circle members aren’t part of the clave but they are still keeping spoils and it kind of makes you wonder if these regular shadowhunters can become the circle, what other shadowhunters are still doing it? I just found it interesting because we know the circle is already evil but keeping spoils as some kind of trophy for killing downworlders is even more vile. and the clave only seems to be concerned about Valentine when there are thousands in valentines circle who are committing these atrocious acts. it’s just another stupid thought I had lmao

1. ayyyyy let’s get to it. Clary and Jace are staring at each other and acting like no one else is there, while Izzy steals the cup, and gif was posted in last post 💓

2. the cup= can control demons but clary: but this is the only way I can get my mom back 🙄 (I sympathize with her wanting Jocelyn back but THIS ONCE AGAIN AFFECTS EVERYONE.) once again putting her needs first like she did with bringing jace back. alec and Izzy are the only ones with some common sense apparently. I don’t trust the clave but I trust them more than I trust clary and jace

3. if you asked me who would I trust to protect me? I vote alec and Izzy. they actually plan things out and use their damn brains. Jace and clary almost gave the cup to Valentine so no, they shouldn’t have it. and of course jace is like “I agree with clary” yeah when don’t you? that’s the only sentence you know 💀

4. “you have her word.”- jace. oh because we are supposed to trust the girl that doesn’t think, runs off without telling anyone, and threatens the safety of others? we feel so assured

5. “Alec, I realize I couldn’t have done this without your help. I wanna thank you.”- clary. yes because if it were any of us, we would’ve sent your childish ass to idris 👏🏼 “don’t misread this as friendship” okay alec go off 🔥🔥🔥

6. oh, look who cares about Simon now that he’s dead and about to become a vampire. see ya soon Simon

7. my beef with clary and Simon is that when it comes down to simons needs and wants, it’s never about him. it’s about clary. she ignored his many calls and voicemails and when he’s either being kidnapped or is dead, now she starts to worry. she ignored Simon all this time but only cares when’s he’s dead 🙄 that’s not a true friend. she could’ve made time for him while chasing the mortal cup but jace is more important to her than Simon is.

8. this whole decision of keeping Simon dead or having him come back as a vampire is the most selfish decision Clary made. I love Simon, he’s great but this choice is obviously taken away from him. clary never thinks about what Simon wants, just what she wants

9. is she seriously blaming Raphael for Simon being dead? yes Raphael did kidnap him but it’s on clary that she included him in the first place. everyone assumed clary had the cup so this is on clary but you’ll never see her hold herself seriously accountable

10. and Raphael actually seems as though he feels bad for Simon, while jace is speaking ill of vampires because of course they’re all terrible and evil. yes they are predators but I’m on downworlders side for most things 😌

11. Valentine talking to sleeping Jocelyn as if they’re still together lmao she can’t stand the sight of him and he’s talking to Jocelyn of past memories. this man is so delusional

12. “there are shadowhunters interfering with downworlder affairs. you two wouldn’t know about that?”- Maryse. “Alec: no/Izzy: nada” 😬

13. Alec: why are you asking me? I told jace to stay out of downworlder business even if there is a warlock I may be attracted to 😭

14. Alec is like downworlders business? how would I know? I’m the competent and responsible son 🥲

15. kind of ironic how Maryse is like don’t do anything to make the clave lose trust in us when her ass was in the circle. girl do you remember your own history? now you need your son to repair the damages you were once involved in

16. “I’m sorry I wasn’t there. this is all my fault.”- clary. ok so she’s kind of taking responsibility but she was still only more concerned with her own stuff and is just now caring because Simon is dead. would she still be acting this way if Simon was having visions of Camille and vampire concerns???? because I don’t think she would care

17. Jace: please don’t bring your friend back online because I want you and he inconveniences me

17. Lydia has arrived

18. I know some people don’t like Lydia because of the arranged marriage situation (mostly book fans) but I actually hold a lot of respect for Lydia. she’s just who the clave brought and she’s here to do a job. is Lydia wanting to take control? no, but she’s here to repair damages clary brought on the institute. and also, she never forced anything on Alec. Alec proposed to her and she’s totally okay with him being gay because she respects his family duty and being a shadowhunter. hate her if you want but she’s not a bad person

19. “part of our job as shadowhunters is making sure mundanes don’t know the truth about the shadow world”- jace. yet y’all didn’t care when Simon knew??????? (I mean Alec did but jace was more insecure about Simon)

20. not that falcon story 🙄 “to love is to destroy” this was cringe in the books, must it be repeated?????? (my face hearing that story)

21. Lydia’s story is heartbreaking. she didn’t do enough and the love of her life died. you kinda feel bad for her

part 2 coming in a hot second