#like. theres no difference to me being a fetus and being pre-three years old in that i.. just do not remember
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And what happens to the embryos that are never implanted in IVF. What happens to zygotes (fertilised eggs) that never implant in the uterus and are passed naturally through menstruation? What happens in the case of natural abortion (a foetus that is spontaneously aborted by the body in the early weeks of pregnancy?) And what happens in the case of foetuses who form without a brain or heart and therefore are never alive? Do they have souls???? Do they have this magical, fully formed, spiritual consciousness in them????
If life (and ensouling) begins at conception then shouldn't pro lifers be protesting at IVF clinics? There's thousands of "souls" being thrown away every day (not to mention those that pass through the uterus naturally and never get implanted, seeing as there are between 6-8 embryos used in a round of IVF). Where's the outcry at fertility specialists or women undergoing fertility treatments? Why aren't they mourning every single period of a woman trying to get pregnant just because it "could have" been a life?
Oh right, they don't care about that because it's just about controlling women.
pro lifer blocked me on twitter for asking this but if embryos have souls, and then they're aborted, exactly how sapient are they in the afterlife? Are they forever doomed to float around with no thoughts in their heads? Is it like just animal intelligence like a little happy goldfish? Do they still have an embryonic form? I've always seen an assumption that child souls are still in child form so I guess so. Do the other people in the afterlife keep abortions as little pets? Will they stay in a fishbowl or are they too stupid + intangible and float right out again?
#personally. when i was a christian i was fine with abortion bc i believed that the soul didnt enter the body#until a baby took their first breath#that made the most sense to me. bc of the biblical context of god 'breathing life' into adam#like he made adam and eves bodies but they had no soul until they had breath#not that it matters anyway bc souls dont exist#its just... their logic isnt even internally consistent#if you take the bible at face value animals dont have souls#but theyre still concious beings..... so?? does consciousness not equate to having a soul?#what level of conciousness constitues a soul?#because arent babies shown to not even really be consistenly all that concious until like... 3 months?#and id argue that i wasn't even “conscious” until i was 3 and started being able to retain memories#like. theres no difference to me being a fetus and being pre-three years old in that i.. just do not remember#did i have a soul then? i dont feel like i had a soul. i dont even feel like i was a conscious being before then#zygotes. embryos. and foetuses are not “potential you's” that you get to project your own fears and anxieties onto#women should get to control their own reproduction. not some third party on an ego trip
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