#like yes im probably unhealthy obsessed but i don't care he needs to be protected

[hsmtmtsjoefrankie]

Okay, I've just finished watching Joe's latest interview (that podcast thing) and it was a wild ride, it's so real and raw

[nauseaspecters]

i don't enjoy the fandom depiction of chuuya being the 'second choice' character trope all his life.

unedited rambling under the cut. i'll structure my text posts better when it's not 4am

he's experienced and underwent through a lot of situationd of abandonment and betrayal, with unreciprocated attachments, definitely.

for the sheep, although they were almost like his family, since they were all he knew for 8 years, they viewed him as a weapon and a tool. stormbringer elaborates and adds complexity to this later but as a basis, it was true that they viewed this young teenager (chuuya) as more of an indispensably strong weapon to protect their survival, yet dispensable as a human if chuuya were to 'fall' to the other side. so much so that they jump to the chance to stab him (literally.) it's true chuuya does experience varying levels of not feeling he is doing enough.

however, to dwindle his character trope down to being "the other woman" type trope or the "constant second choice" is a misunderstanding of not only his character, but the characters around him as well. i see this seen most with dazai, mori, kouyou and the sheep.

in the case regarding dazai: chuuya is often labelled as the second choice to oda, and sometimes people use it as a point to pity chuuya in. however, it should be considered that chuuya and oda, and what they meant to dazai, cannot be compared. their relationships and significance to dazai were not in the same realm, and to think of it as "dazai chose oda over chuuya" ignores all the other factors as to what their relationship is built on. also, dazai choosing to leave the pm is not choosing oda over chuuya, it's hardly even related to chuuya, and especially not some decisive battle. it was dazai who was impacted by his dying friend's wishes and words, and he left for many reasons. ugh i will speak forever so i'll make that a different post. TLDR: chuuya is not the second choice to 'oda'

in the case regarding kouyou: i don't see this as commonly and i'm honestly a sucker for chuuya angst, but i don't think it's also right to think of chuuya as a second choice to kyouka in terms of kouyou's affection/care. firstly, kyouka is a young girl, and kouyou identifies herself in kyouka, with a deeper attachment of obsessive protection and instillment of what kouyou experienced. since kouyou was hurt by trying to reach the 'light', and she sees that same self in kyouka, kouyou shields kyouka in an unhealthy manner and isolates her from what she think will ultimately fail her. chuuya is a boy and from what we know, kouyou most likely does not see chuuya in the same style of projection and reflection. she's set to mentor chuuya in a very professional PM standpoint, and most likely does not form that deeper neurotic attachment that she has to kyouka. yes, chuuya calls her ane-san, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily also the closest. so to say that chuuya is the second choice to kyouka is strange, as it's not even a choice. chuuya is not in the picture for the type of internal bond that kouyou feels towards kyouka.

some additional stuff bdcause im rambling:

there's some weird extreme perceptions of kouyou as either someone that doesn't care about chuuya and a very close older-sister like doting on chuuya (the latter being a popular interpretation). i think kouyou cares to some extent, yeah. i think a lot of the pm that interact more extensively cares about each other to some extent. however, we do need to remember this is in the context of the PM. it's an inherently toxic and unstable environment, rooted in , well, Crime and power dynamics. kouyou was probably not the perfect mentor to chuuya, and nor are they some close healthy protective sibling-type dynamic either. the PM is rooted in abuse and a dark environment, it's unrealistic to think that a relationship we barely see much of is sunshine and rainbows.

ps: also sometimes it's not the matter of being a second choice he is just not a choice. as sad as that may sound.

[scariusaquarius]

I always had this thought...

Imagine if reader actually likes yandere! leon. she loves being the good girl for him, do all he wants and being what he wants her to be.

stay at home? ok! no friends and work? great!

"im the only one you need" yes you are! i feel like she enjoys this feeling of protection and desperate love and lust that leon makes her feel, i'm pretty sure she already told him that in sex

and this just gives him encouragement to keep being the obsessive freak he is

Oh no, Reader definitely becomes an enabler. MC enjoys the attention and the safety Leon provides, even if he goes to unhealthy lengths to ensure MC's safety. MC is a blind, probably brainwashed lover because Leon is so good at manipulation and lying (like lying is part of his job lol) that he has MC wrapped around his finger.

It's just as Leon planned for himself and you, and now that he has you and knows you love him, he is just so obsessed with keeping you for himself.

You have friends he doesn't like? Guess what, now you don't. He doesn't enjoy you being away from home? He's gonna make you quit your job and rely only on him.

"It's my job as your husband to provide while you stay home and care for our family."

Yes! That's how it's supposed to be! You dont have children just yet, but he'll let you have a dog or two for company (they are guard dogs in actuality) and he equates them to kids when you do because mmm yes, that's what he desires.

It's a double-edged knife however because even though Leon has you completely wrapped around his finger, you also have HIM wrapped around yours even if you don't know it.

Better keep it that way ;)