#like we can fill in the blanks from RR with Dick's perspective and motives because we know him even when he's kind of messing up
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#like honestly v unpopular But i do think morrison is more responsible #morrison's refusal to care about dick grayson's relationships outside of bruce alfred and damian #is a large part of how fandom was able to interpret that dick didn't care about tim anymore. #if yost had been complemented by a writer who also cared about dick & tim we wouldn't be in this mess imo #but as it is yost writing dick & tim in tim's book and morrison having dick not care about tim in dick's book #is how you get to intepretations like that. #because caring seems more onesided on tim's part #so. yea. morrison is far more to blame. (tags via @scintillyyy)
#the way dick refers to tim as timothy drake in B&R contrasted with how immediate their trust and love is in blackest night and RR #also the many many call backs that RR is chock-full of #wondering what we could've had if morrison wasn't the writer for dick using a lazarus pit to revive bruce #bc i would've loved to see tim grapple with that! how he had dick in his corner to stop him from doing sth like that in resurrection of ras #but how dick had no one to stop him from making this mistake and tim would see how much dick meant it when he said that tim ur my equal #I also refuse to believe that there wasn't a point where dick wasn't frustrated enough with damian to think and maybe even say: #tim wouldn't do this! and we could have another delicious nuance to explore in the dick-tim-damian dynamic (tags via @vechter)
#not to blame Morrison for everything I dislike about Reborn #but yeah the fact that Morrison was an obstacle for everyone else to have to bend their writing around rather than a collaborative partner #the fact we never get a Dick perspective on Tim’s trip really messed with people’s perception of the story #as for the previous 15 years anything referencing both would have had a guaranteed response #the contrast between ‘A thousand ninjas’ and ‘I can offer Tim Drake his job back’ isn’t flattering #and one of those is a lot more in tune with Dick and Tim’s history than the other (tags via @zahri-melitor)
i actually do have a theory that red robin wouldn't have been able to do near as much damage to fandom perception of dick & tim as it did if grant morrison hadn't been the one writing batman and robin.
(and i actually personally hold morrison more responsible for the state of things than yost because despite yost's best efforts to do a love letter to the dick & tim relationship and showcase dick caring about tim, one of the main reasons that people felt like dick didn't care about tim during that era was because morrison was *busy writing dick not caring about tim in that era* & i honestly do think that if we had a batman!dick who reminisced a bit about tim while he was gone or was shown to have missed him or wish he was there when he got frustrated with things instead of the "i could give timothy drake his job back" or "oh my god timothy drake was right" we got, there would have been less intepretations like we got.)
#yes all of this#like to be fair I don't think Dick's perspective on Tim really comes up in Streets of Gotham or Batman either#during Tim's Brucequest period#(correct me if I'm wrong tho; I focused on RR and B&R and am only partway through SoG and Reborn-era Batman)#but yeah the contrast between Morrison's “Tim Drake” nothingness and like#Tomasi showing all the love and connection still there during Blackest Night smack-dab in the middle of Brucequest#(especially with Tomasi having just put so many fabulous Dick 'n Tim moments in his Nightwing run)...#it's just really uneven#like we can fill in the blanks from RR with Dick's perspective and motives because we know him even when he's kind of messing up#and not communicating well esp. in the Cave scene#and Yost does plenty to show Dick's care even with the limited perspective and need for him to still fill a narrative role that -#pushes Tim out of Gotham#but Dick not having any kind of voice or opinion from his own perspective on his little brother having left#on this dangerous quest that we know Dick doesn't really believe in and didn't want him to go on#it just. leaves a big blank hole for people to project lack of care on.#and it's like nooooooooo 😭😭😭#Dick and Tim#DC meta#Red Robin#Grant Morrison#Dick Grayson#Tim Drake#dcu#batfam
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