#like this is what the discourse in numenor was like I'm-

[mozart-the-meerkitten]

I'm sorry but all I can think of is that the angry guy is a Numenorean king in the second age ready to fight the gods to avoid death.

scrunching my face real hard rn

[olderthannetfic]

Wading into the Silmarillion discourse in response to this one

Celeborn and Galadriel: I have to give you this one, but it is worth nothing that Celeborn's ancestry was changed. I don't think Tolkien said why, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason.

Tar-Míriel and Ar-Pharazôn: Men of Numenor; not relevant for deciphering the cultural mores and customs of the Eldar.

Aragorn and Arwen: Anon makes it sound like they're foster siblings, but Arwen was grown long before Aragorn was born and they didn't meet until Aragorn was also an adult; they weren't raised together. Also, a culture's take on foster relations doesn't imply anything about blood relations. Funnily enough, Aragorn and Arwen actually are related by blood, but you have to go back a few dozen generations on Aragorn's side for their common ancestor.

Túrin and Nienor: I'm sorry, what?? That whole mess happened because of Melkor's curse, and finding out is literally what killed them both. But that aside, they're Men, not Elves, so they're not relevant if what we're trying to decide is if Maedhros and Fingon would consider themselves too closely related for a relationship

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