#like there's enough weirdos who make unwarranted comments
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cosmicrot · 10 months ago
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post about fatphobia: fat people are systematically treated like shit and this extends deep into many aspects of life including but not limited to the medical field, school, fashion, etc.
the comments: well MaYbE if You CaReD AboUt BeinG FuckAbLe AnD HaTeD YouRseLF, you'd STARVE and bOdY BUILD!! fAT pEOPlE aREN't oPPRESSED!! You'Re OppRessIng ME by Enjoying Being Fat aNd Healthy. [insert rant about obesity here that is 90% lies] [insert follow up rant about being oppressed for being skinny]
"wuh buh skinny shaming!" "skinny people are medically neglected too!" like... y'all are ignoring the fact that *a majority* of medical neglect and things of that nature towards skinny people is in majority because of fatphobia, [the rest due to other factors such as misogyny, racism, transphobia and queerphobia, etc.. making them not take things like ED and ailments causing you to lose weight/be underweight as serious] Like from first hand experience, a lot of people & doctors would literally rather folks be sick and malnourished then be fat. They'd literally rather people's bodies fall apart due to lack of nutrients or be so underweight they can't get out of bed, than have noticeable fat on their bodies.
but yeah no let's just overtake serious discussions about fatphobia and/or posts uplifting and celebrating fat people and make it about skinny people //sarcasm
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renardtrickster · 5 years ago
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Like a modern-day Echo I am tragically unable to express myself except in this case it’s in regard to how much I hate Two Broke Girls but good god I will try.
Max is the most unlikable TV character for me because she alternates between being an edgy font of offensiveness and the creator’s Coolsona. By the first part, I mean how her only personality traits are “I hate people and will let you know this” and “i had a troubled childhood full of nasty sex”. There’s a point in the show where Han, who I can only describe as her favourite victim, delivers a speech about how she torments him and how it’s affected him, and singlehandedly saved her from both lawsuit AND having her business stolen. Max immediately goes back to sniping at him in the single most frustrating instance of Status Quo Is God I’ve ever seen in my life and I’ve watched Adventure Time.
By “the creator’s Coolsona”, that brings up another topic. Two Broke Girls has what I call “I Don’t Like This” Moments. Typically at the very beginning of the episode, but sometimes it happens in the middle of them too. Where someone does Thing That Creator Doesn’t Like and then Max jumps in to say The Funny Mean Things at them for an entire scene. And maybe because I’ve been growing up in an environment where “odd” things don’t register as weird to me, and I know not to make fun of people even if I do think it’s weird, but it always seems so petty, unnecessary, and unsympathetic. The Thing I Don’t Like can be anywhere from “likes steampunk, has marionette dolls” to “has a beard”. I just saw an episode where she insulted a dude’s mental state, mental maturity, and ability to have sex because he was using a colouring book! For stress relief!
And nobody ever talks back is what really pisses me off. I’ve slowly (and with great difficulty) stopped hoping expecting someone to clock her for mouthing off to them. But nobody ever really contests her. Some of them weakly try to blow it off, but most of them are just content to sit there, slack-jawed, while she unloads the creator’s frustrations into them. Seth MacFarlane at least had the decency to make everybody hate his fursona, Max faces no consequences of any sort for chewing out the people who provide her tips (in a show where getting and keeping money is repeatedly stressed) or her boss, who is also her designated victim! That’s why I said “the creator’s Coolsona”. Max is like the anthropomorphic personification of “yowza what a sick burn, i could make people cry if i didn’t stutter so much”, and she’s the main character! Caroline is (ostensibly) on equal terms of importance to Max, but she’s more like a second fiddle because Max has such an overbearing, inescapable personality. And instead of the (ostensibly) more likable Caroline, we have Michael Patrick King and Whitney Cummings’ walking, talking ball of unreleased daily stress.
And Max is just one aspect of the show (if a pretty integral part)! There’s so much more I could talk about but Impoverished Vriska (which is unfair to Vriska) took up so much of the post I have to shove the rest of it into bullet points.
The rest of the main cast are just ethnic stereotypes.
Han is the owner of the diner (Max’s boss, as I said before) but all of that pales before the fact that he’s a short guy from South Korea. Half if not the majourity of the jokes on the show consist of “Han is short”. Other features is that he’s somewhat incompetent, nobody likes him, he’s definitely not as cool as Max, and he’s possibly very gay.
Speaking of which, Michael Patrick King was confronted with the fact that Han is basically just an Asian point-and-laugh character and said that allegations of his racism were unfounded and he knows what it’s like to be discriminated against because he’s gay. Make of that what you will.
Oleg is the cook. He’s Ukrainian but you could just say “East European Weirdo” and that’s all that matters. His name may as well be Buck because he likes to fuck and that’s all there is to say about him.
Sophie is also an East European Weirdo (Polish edition) who also may as well be named Buck. Literally the only thing that makes her separate from Oleg is that she’s a girl, isn’t on a list of some sort, and she’s sometimes capable of having thoughts outside of flesh on flesh. She’s also shilled a lot which is very weird. Apparently her actor is more famous than any of the others but I wouldn’t know.
Earl... He’s old black and likes weed. He gets very slight characterization outside of that I think. His relation to the diner is so vague that it took me ages to realize what he does (cashier, apparently).
Outside of that, we have more stereotypes as well. There’s a lot of gay characters but I swear every single one of them talks with the Gay Voice. Lisp, effeminate manner, you know how it is.
The episode specifically about LGBT people protesting the cupcake shop was bad too.
One out of context comment to a pretentious nonbinary person leads to a massive riot outside.
After a few scenes of the circus outside, Max and Caroline get picked up by a wild gang of homophobes (complete with them talking about overly offended youths, they’re the bad guys but it doesn’t quite pass the smell test).
They wiggle out of it in the most contrived manner possible by kissing each other, and suddenly the LGBT crowd outside becomes their best friends despite being convinced that they were bigots (and Han & Max offering piss-poor refutations to that claim).
And the episode ends off with the same nonbinary person, after making up with Max & Caroline, taking an unwarranted shot at bisexual people and then walking off into the sunset.
By the way this same character is the only explicitly NB character on television to my (limited) knowledge. So I’d like to take a moment and weep for enbies in that they already have crumbs and one of the bigger crumbs came from this fucking show.
If 50% of the show’s jokes is “Han is short”, the other 50% is “SEX”. Honestly at some points the show plays out like an Amy Schumer stand-up.
Rant ended impromptu because thinking about this show enough to write this much gave me brain damage.
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thedispatched · 3 years ago
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As I’ve gotten more and more in kpop how fans behave sadly plays a role if I want to listen/follow groups/artists I have never did before lol Even if they may make good music or I hear good comments from like neutral parties I probably still will not because how some fans act is terrible. Yes I am missing some good stuff lol but I don’t enjoy fighting or how there are double standards in groups which I know I will not be able to avoid because it’s hard for me to ever not start reading or looking up about the people I am enjoying. And I look at the bg and the gg groups I love and I think I can honestly say I have never deep down hated any member like they seem to hate him or take any available opportunity to drag him. Even before this, some of his comments always drew the weirdest reactions and fighting and it’s like if this was someone else it wouldn’t be getting a thousand shitty quote retweets. I follow nct bubble accounts and iirc he got a lot of hate/shit for I think rooting for Germany (?) during the euro games. There were also a lot ton of shit tweets saying how he was a weirdo and making fun of him and labeling him a “furry” because he loves the beastar anime. Of the top of my head these two came into my mind. There are more but I’m still half asleep lol but I remember admins needing to disable comments and my timeline fighting and it was a mess. To me these are such harmless comments that got people soooo riled up. So he has a team he wants to win and he likes an anime show that is popular and he has shared before how he watches/likes anime. So wth is the problem? And if iirc too yy had been rooting for the Milwaukee during the nba finals and other members have shared the things they enjoyed but there was no fighting, no hate thrown and no side comments. So how is it possible for people to do the SAME thing but draw completely different reactions? 🙄🙄
And I was on Twitter last night and yeah I’m judging how you fans behaved esp these super loud obnoxious ones. Idk if you saw the series of pictures xj posted. But he has a new hair color and people were freaking out and loving his pictures. But then he deleted them all off all and people thought he was had to cause he was spoiling something. No it wasn’t because it turns out it’s a day of remembrance for the Mukden incident and no entertainment posts are supposed to be made. Then I saw the same people deleting all these posts about them freaking out and thinking they’re spoilers and asking not to spread the pictures on the different platforms esp on weibo cause they don’t want him to get hate cause it’ll hurt him and the group. And I will say this… that if this was lc, that shit would have spread like crazy already and I would be reading all these damn comments of “why is he so disrespectful?” “he’s so stupid” and “how the fuck does he not know the history?!” I’ve been in fandom long enough to see how you people move. Pfft.
the thing you said in the beginning about fans behavior is why i tend to distance myself from them (mainly twitter). too many times have they ruined the experience for me, but i don't want to let them ruin a good thing for me so i distance myself. i also have never hated a member of a group i love/used to love.
in my opinion, some celebs tend to get more hate because one, popularity and two, jealously. i think a lot of celebs get so much unwarranted hate because of jealously. whether they're jealous of his success or they're jealous their faves aren't getting the same attention. there are probably other reasons, but this the first thing that always comes to my mind. (again, this is just the unnecessary hate. sometimes they get hate for good reason but sometimes it goes too far).
i only check insta like twice a day so i didn't see the photos until i looked it up on twitter when you sent this. i apologize for the late reply and the xj reposted them as i'm answering. i've seen nctzens talk about preparing for nct 2021 and i'm curious what sm's plans are regarding lucas with that.
i think, specifically right now, some fans are being a bit more careful(?) so the others don't get hate. but talking about in general, i think it is sad how different the situations would be because i agree that if it were lucas the reaction would be different.
personally, i feel like a lot of groups have one member who always get more shit on for no reason and i think it's really sad. i would love to know the reasoning behind this and just nonsense hate in general.
they don't deserve it, but they get it, and we can't do much to help the situation as much as it sucks.
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