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queenofthursday6599-blog · 3 months ago
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No team Cap isn't morally correct in Civil War
I think my main problem with team cap stans as someone on team tony is that I don't actually put myself in the shoes of either team.
I look at what's happening in Civil War from the perspective of a random no powered citizen who'd really like it if people with super weapons or super human powers wouldn't trample over my right not to get killed because those super heroes decided "The best hands are our own".
Even when that completely disregards stuff like international boarders, jurisdiction on what the Avengers team was actually supposed to do (fight threats no one else can, in Civil War the inciting incident is them deciding to fuck around in another country as an anti-terrorism task force when they aren't in anyway trained for that), and you know the reassurance that I won't get murdered when the heroes go chasing after their bestie and I'm unlucky enough to be in the way.
I honestly feel like if you think what Team Cap does in Civil War is "the moral choice" then you're empathizing way too hard with Team Cap and not looking at the situation objectively.
Civil War worked in the comics because it was an entirely internal affairs situation happening inside the USA. It was about people with powers being put on a list and being monitored and being somewhat stripped of their personhood. Cap's side is in the right in the comics. Because the Civil War comics conflict is based in fantastical racism, which in the comic's universe had been established and building for literal decades before the actual CW incident takes place.
This is not true in the movies. Where it's based on the actions of this singular super hero team, and how they frequently go over international boarders, disregarding things like jurisdiction and due process, and leave fucking disaster zones and piles of civilian casualties in their wake. Even when they have no business being there interfering.
And how everyone else in the world who isn't a superhero fan, is fucking terrified that they're going to die because this small group with godlike abilities decided they were going to do whatever the fuck they wanted based entirely on their own morals, and anyone they happen to murder while doing that is acceptable casualties.
So no, no one on Team Cap is "morally right" in this situation if you actually look at the bigger picture. Especially because Cap's own motivations for the whole movie isn't even actually that he disagrees with the Accords, he's just wants to protect Bucky, and he goes the whole movie doing that at the expense of literally everyone else.
Along with everyone else on that team besides Clint and Scott who were just Captain America fans who were dumb asses and went along with whatever he said.
Sam's full blown power tripping and doesn't want government over site, Wanda wants to be a hero without taking any of the responsibility that comes with that, Cap doesn't trust governments and wants to protect his bestie at all cost.
Bucky is the only Team Cap member who gets a pass because, I don't think he even knows what the hell is going on that whole movie. All he knows is a bunch of guys showed up trying to shoot him and Steve showed up shortly after. He's trying to deal with fucking scrambled egg brain and being a POW for 70 years, he's the only person I don't blame.
Though I think Tony fucks up in the movie too. He brought Spider-man in without verifying that he was one a grown up, and two knew the situation he was getting into.
Natasha fucks up because her entire life she's had her morality dictated by whoever is her then trusted superior. Which at this point in her life is Steve & Clint. I honestly think Natasha is doing her best in this movie, but she still objectively fucks up by not actually picking a side and sticking to it.
T'Challa is only on Team Tony because he's convinced that it's going to let him get revenge for his father's murder. So he's also in the wrong. Yeah he's grieving. Still not cool trying to use your diplomatic immunity to try and meet out vigilante justice.
Honestly I think the only people not in the wrong at all during the whole movie who's part of the actual conflict is Rhodey, Peter, Bucky and Vision. And that's it, everyone else is fucking up bringing their personal emotions into something they're supposed to be dealing with objectively.
Which yeah, I know that's a hard thing to do in a high stress high stakes situation like this. But if they can't do it then they're just not cut out for super heroing. Or like high stress high stakes jobs in general.
So I'm more Team Don't be an Asshole than I am Team Tony, and Tony's team just happens to have fewer assholes in this movie.
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3mcwriting · 2 years ago
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Any Fan's Dream, Part 5
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When you look around and see Avengers Tower in front of you and Peter Parker beside you, you wonder how the hell you managed to get into the MCU.
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"You look weirdly tired and excited," Tony commented as you entered the workroom. "Interesting combination."
You had bags around your eyes, and you were walking slowly and stiffly. However, your eyes were alight with excitement and you had a large grin on your face. You had pulled an all-nighter with Peter, well, you weren't actually with him. "Your" mom had told you that you had been away from home a lot and she wouldn't let you leave the house or let you have him over. So, instead you had spent the night sprawled on "your" bed, phone plugged to the charger while you talked to Peter over the phone.
Your body was berating you for that, but you couldn't bring yourself to regret your choices. Even with the way all your limbs were both stiff and sore and you looked like a zombie, you weren't sorry for the night.
"You look fabulous," you retorted, "and- oh shit I forgot all of my insults. Sorry, I'm a little drowsy right now."
"You're lucky that Capsicle is busy training Rhodey and the rest of them, otherwise, he would've had something to say about that language of yours." Tony looked at you, an unimpressed expression on his face. "And, kid, you don't look 'a little drowsy', you look like you're about to fall asleep standing up. There is no way we're working on your suit-"
You protested, "but-"
"Uh uh, no 'buts'. You're either gonna end up drilling through the table or your hand, or you're gonna eventually wear the suit and mid-flight something fails and you plummet to your death. Neither is ideal, so no suit today."
"Fine," you agreed. You were sad that you were slowing down the finish of your very own Iron Man suit(holy shit your very own Iron Man suit!!) but you didn't want your stay in the MCU to ever end. Although, ngl dying in an Iron Man suit would be so cool. Wait a- wtf I'm tired. 
"What are we going to do then?" you asked.
"Whatever you wanna do, I guess."
"Can we hack Area 51?"
Tony teared up, "yes, yes we can."
Two hours later and the two of you had discovered some of the nation's biggest secrets. And you had to say, there was some crazy ass shit going down.
"-holy alienfucking shit! So they knew!!"
"I fucking knew it." Tony said, "I knew they knew it."
"The government has been lying to us for decades," you stated.
"Kid, they're the government. Of course they lied. You've met Fury."
"I met Fury?" 
Tony looked at you. "Yeah, remember on the first week of your internship he was here?"
"Uh huh." You nodded. "Now I remember."
Dammit I met Fury except not really! I wanna meet Fury. Hmph.
"(y/n)! Where you at, babe? Time to train!"
You felt the blood drain from your face, you pleaded with Tony. "Help me." 
He shook his head grimly. "No one can save you now. She's already here."
"Found you!" 
You screeched.
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"I hope you know that when I pull every muscle in my body, you and Steve are paying for my hospital bill."
"We would never push you that hard." Natasha told you. "We would never give you the satisfaction of going to the hospital and relaxing in a bed for days doing nothing. We'll just push you as hard as you can go before the hospital is warranted."
"You fucking sadist."
"Tch, I don't think Steve would approve of that language."
"Who said I give a single flying fuck about what Steve approves of?"
Natasha laughed. "You know that all this training is for your own good, right?"
You scoffed, massaging your tired legs. 
"Really," she reaffirmed, "everybody was worried when you didn't come for your internship. Especially when that 5-year-old burst through the lobby yelling about you being taken. We worry about you."
You looked down, "I didn't know I had scared everyone so much."
You really didn't. Which may have been stupid considering how serious Peter was about you getting kidnapped. You knew that in a normal situation being kidnapped was horrible, but you had been far too star-struck to be rational. Plus, you were new to people being concerned about you. You never had the invested parents, the protective ones, not even the strict ones. You had the cold, emotionally-distant parents that you rarely ever saw. The ones that weren't mean, or abusive, they just weren't there. 
As pathetic as it sounded, you had gotten used to people not giving a shit about you.
You forgot that people cared about you here. 
"Yeah," Natasha spoke, "so me and Steve are helping you learn how to protect yourself."
You weren't sure what you should say, did you thank them? That was probably what you should do. "Um, thank you- I mean, you guys are really busy and you make the time to train me. Like- I- you don't have to do this, but you choose to so thank you."
You fidgeted with your hands, not sure where to look. Here you were with your heroes, people who had saved the world multiple times. And they cared about you, they worried about you, and you were complaining.
Natasha's eyes softened as she saw how guilty you felt. "Of course we have to, we care about you. So, no thanks required."
"I'm sorry."
Natasha looked surprised. "For what?"
"I'm being ungrateful."
You hated this feeling. The feeling of being a burden.
You remembered when you were younger, probably 9. 
You had aced your spelling test, you were so proud of yourself. When you got home, you couldn't help the grin on your face. You were so excited to tell your parents about how you had done, you stayed waiting up past your bedtime for hours, hoping to see your parents. 
You fell asleep, but you had left your graded spelling test with the 100% on it on the kitchen table. You had fallen asleep at some point, and when you woke up, you went to go find your mother and father. It was a Saturday, they were asleep in their bed. You dragged them out of bed to show them the paper. 
Your dad had looked at the paper on the table. "What have we told you about leaving trash everywhere?"
Your mom crumpled up the paper and threw it in the trash. "You have to clean up after yourself, we're not always going to be here to pick up after you."
A burden. 
That's what you had felt like your entire life.
And here you were being nothing but a bother to your heroes. You were complaining and whining, being ungrateful about what they were doing.
"You have nothing to be sorry about-" Natasha was perplexed, "-you didn't do anything."
You nodded, still feeling guilty. "I won't complain anymore."
"What?" Natasha shook her head. "What are you talking about?"
"When you train me, I'll stop whining."
Natasha put a hand on your shoulder. "What are you- you know it's okay to have complaints? It's a hard training regimen, nobody expects you to take it like a vacation. It's hard, and you're sticking with it. A couple grumbles and jokes are normal. You know that, right?"
You were unconvinced, too used to the feeling of being a burden. But, you had managed to hide it most of your life, you could hide it now. "I know, I think I'm just a little tired. I stayed up all night so I'm just a little sleep deprived."
Natasha's expression showed that she believed you about the same amount you believed yourself, so not a lot. She figured you could use a bit of relaxation. "You should go take a shower, and after you get out I'll give you a massage. Your muscles are unused to this exercise so we have to make sure they don't get really tight and you end up pulling something."
"Massage?" 
Your thoughts stopped. A massage from Natasha fucking Romanoff? Just so that you wouldn't get injured? Why was she so awesome? Your simp-heart couldn't handle such amazingness.
Unfortunately, that sentence only distracted you from your thoughts, and once you were in the shower, they all came flooding back. Standing in the bathroom, alone, you looked at yourself. You weren't sure what you were looking for, but whatever it was, you didn't find it because you stopped with a sense of defeat.
You stepped out of the bathroom, seeing Natasha seated on her bed. Her hair was wet and she was in new clothes, indicative of her also taking a shower whilst you were. 
She was scrolling through her phone but looked up when you opened the door. You were wearing loose shorts that fell halfway down your thighs, and another one of her worn t-shirts.
"Ok, come sit down." Natasha said, patting the spot on the bed next to her. 
You did so, looking at her curiously. "Where are you going to massage me?"
"Your legs." She gestured to your mostly bare legs. "That's why I got you shorts this time instead of sweats."
"Oh," you were having trouble finding words, "um, how do you want me to sit?"
"Just lay down on your stomach," she answered, "I'll massage your calves, not your thighs. You're probably unused to massages so if I start massaging further up your legs, it'll make you tense because of how unused you are to it and the whole point of this is to relax your muscles.
You nodded and laid down on your stomach, the feeling of her kneading your calf muscles was slightly painful at first but it felt good after a while. 
"You feel how I'm pressing with the heel of my palm?" she asked.
You nodded, her comments asking about how it felt and the technique popping up throughout the massage.
When she was done, you sat up and looked at her. "Thank you, it felt good."
She smiled, winking at you. "My pleasure, babe."
You grabbed your phone, turning it on and seeing the time.
Your eyes went wide. "Oh shit! I have to go, I was supposed to leave half an hour ago."
"Calm down, you don't have to leave."
"No, I- Peter's waiting for me, shit!"
You grabbed your stuff. "Thank you, Nat! See ya!"
You ran out of the room, unlocking your phone as you ran. You pulled up your contact list and right when you were about to call him-
You got pulled into a closet.
Your phone was snatched out of your hand by someone. You had a suspicion of who it was before you saw the person.
Your suspicions were confirmed when you hit the light switch beside the closed door and Loki stood in front of you.
"Can't have you calling anybody," Loki pocketed your phone, he looked at you. "You don't seem that surprised to see me."
"Well, you did break into my apartment two days ago and kidnap me the day before that," you commented dryly, "I figured it was coming sooner or later."
He smiled. "You are an interesting human."
"Thanks, Hotstuff. What am I doing in the closet? I came out of it years ago."
"I just came to bid you goodbye, I have business to attend to. Although, with your knowledge-" he smirked, "-I'm sure you already knew that."
No way, there is no way he knows. He can't know.
You smiled humorously, trying to hide your nerves. "I'm pretty awesome but I'm not a fortune teller."
"Is that so? You obviously know more than you should."
You remembered something, an idea sparking in you. 
Maybe you could change something.
"You're right about that, and I have some advice. One day, there's going to be a big, purple, man with a nut-sack chin. When he approaches your spaceship, you need to get the Asgardians out of there. Otherwise, a lot of people are going to die." You included. Please listen, Loki. 
He looked at you, uneasy at your sincerity but not being fully convinced either. "Alright, I'll remember that when the time comes. For somebody who claims not to be a fortune teller, you seem to have a significant awareness of future events. Care to explain, darling?"
"I've already given you enough information, why would I give you more?"
"Hmm, you're right about that. Knowledge is valuable." He fixed you with a piercing stare, "I suppose I should thank you."
His words made you all too aware of the small amount of space in the closet, of how close he was to you. His face moved closer to you, hovering mere inches from yours. 
"Tell me, darling," he whispered in your ear, "do I have permission to thank you?"
"I-" you couldn't think. He was so close and he smelled really good and holy shit his voice was sexy-
"Well?" he murmured, "do I?"
You could only nod, wondering where the hell your voice had gone.
His face moved closer, the inches disappearing as his lips brushed against your cheek gently, tenderly. He pulled away, smirking at your flustered state. 
You didn't enjoy his amusement, and resolved to make him the more flustered person there.
You moved forward, caging Loki between you and the wall behind him. He couldn't quite hide the shock at your boldness, simultaneously surprised and attracted to the change.
"Are you alright with me this close?" 
As much as you wanted to appear suave and confident, the most important thing was that both of you were comfortable with the situation.
Loki had absolutely no problem with the situation. "Darling, I am more than alright."
You looked at him, admiring his beauty. His eyes were intense, piercing, and mischievous, looking at you in a way that was unbelievably tempting. His hair fell a little above his shoulders, dark and alluring.
Damn send the haircare routine-
You tucked a strand of his hair behind his ear, fingertips grazing his cheekbone when you moved it. You smirked when you heard the way his breath caught. If you were honest, you really, really, really, wanted to one-up him. There was a short strand of hair falling over his forehead, your eyes locked on it. You pressed your lips gently over it, then moved backwards and brushed the strand to the side.
He stared at you, strangely silent. His expression was one of shock, but not for the reason you thought. He was surprised that you had expressed affection so kindly and softly as if you worried your adoration would bruise.
The two of you stared at each other, neither willing to break the moment.
But your phone buzzed somewhere in Loki's outfit and the two of you snapped back to reality.
"Ah shit! I need my phone, Loki."
He handed it to you, that odd silence still with him. 
You hesitated for a moment, wondering if you should say something but your phone buzzed again and you ran out of the closet. You answered your phone as you ran. "Gah, I'm so sorry, Peter. I'll be down right now."
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