#like she said it and even when i didnt even consider the repurcussions i was like 'idk how to respond to that'

[hella1975]

me and my (also bi) flatmate were talking about date guy last week and out of nowhere she goes 'if you get a boyfriend im gonna be so annoyed we haven't even done anything gay together yet' and like i laughed it off but i keep remembering it bc we dont have a flirty friendship AT ALL like even in the moment it came WAY out of left field and im just here like hold on was gay shit ON THE TABLE??? NO ONE TOLD ME

[ayano008]

I think that it's okay to express criticism or concerns of a fictional work, as long as its done in a respectful manner. Demanding money back from Cheritz? Harrassing them? Sending hate mail? This sort of thing doesn't speak about how well Cheritz handled the after-ending, instead that speaks of the maturity of the person in question. Toxic behavior like this shouldn't be tolerated for any reason.

To add on to what people have said they disliked about the after ending, like someone above me mentioned, its not just about the kiss cg.

For me personally, I feel the after ending was a mixed bag. I was overjoyed when I learned Saeran survived and was reunited with his brother. I felt touched at the brothers' reunion and felt that V redeemed himself (especially because he spent 2 years of his life in rehabitalizing Saeran as well as himself). These aspects I truly loved and felt were done well.

But I wouldnt be writing this post if I didnt have valid concerns about V's after end. And it has everything to do with how Rika was handled in her route. In particular, the forgive and judge endings.

After all she's done, I don't think I could forgive her. And I feel that Saeyoung, Saeran, V, the RFA and anyone at all aren't required to forgive her either. I get that forgiving someone for hurting you is, supposedly, more for yourself and your own mental wellbeing. But personally, I think everyone gets over trauma differently. And especially for victims of abuse; you should never be made to feel like you have to forgive the abuser. If I were MC in this scenario, I could never forgive what she had done. I'm not so cruel that I want her to suffer, but I would want her to face legal repurcussions for everything she had done (not get away scot free like she did in the forgive ending) and meanwhile get therapy while in prison. Rika had mental illness but that doesn't excuse her actions. (And I know Cheritz say that they were never intending to "justify" her actions but considering how (1) Rika didn't face any legal consequences for her actions or any sort of negative repurcussions and how (2) Cheritz created Mika (who looks exactly like Rika) in order to shift the blame, however partly, from Rika to Mika... that's exactly what it seems like.

If anything, if V's after ending had to have two endings and our behavior had to influence the outcome. I would have preferred it not have anything to do with forgiveness at all, but how we treat Rika in the aftermath.

Do we act cruel to her? Do we mistreat her? Its alright if you dont forgive someone for what they did, it however does not give you justification to treat people with toxicity. No matter what, I believe that every human being deserves to be treated humanely. Toxic behavior says more about yourself than what that person did. When faced with someone you hate, instead of continuing the cycle of abuse, stop it, and treat them with a modicum of courtesy. But again, it doesn't mean Rika should escape blame and not face the consequences. It also doesn't mean that people are not allowed to voice their concerns about, say, a fictional work. But how they do it matters.

Remember how, in Saeran's good ending, he told MC that they didnt have to forgive him for what he's done to her while he was Suit!Saeran? And regardless of what we chose in reply, he said he understood, and we could still get the best happy ending? That's what I feel should have been done with Rika as well. We should be able to get the happiest ending even if we don't forgive her.

And we should get a bad ending only if we fail to treat her in a level-headed manner and instead descend to bitterness/toxicity/cruelty. Because that would affect anyone's mental health and push anyone across the brink.

So while I am grateful to Cheritz for making such a long after-ending, I cant whole-heartedly approve of it either. Anyway, that's my take. I hope it makes sense and that everyone has a good day.

Is this really how we are going to act?

This has nothing to do with Ikemen Sengoku, or the ikemen series in general, but something in regards to the email Cheritz sent out, in their regards to the anger of V’s After Ending. I just wanted to address this because I am frankly ashamed of how some people have acted towards Cheritz, and I’m, for lack of a better word, pissed off, of how entitled some people really think they are. I know there are many people who are supportive of Cheritz, and are very grateful for all the hard work and effort put into the game; so this is not an attack on the fandom or community, but rather an expression of disappointment on those who have made it look very entitled and selfish.

Yes, entitled. Those who are demanding money back for not enjoying the after ending as much as you thought you would, or angry you don’t have a damn kissing CG; do you realize how entitled you sound? And do you realize that it actually reflects badly on all of us who consider themselves fans and part of the MysMe community? It reflects so poorly on the English Speaking community (I have seen more anger from the English speaking community then Spanish, Chinese, and Korean speaking communities- I could be wrong, and there could be anger from there too, and ill manner. In that case, reflects poorly there too) because it makes all of us sound demanding and unable to  please. I’d think why bother if I were Cheritz.

Cheritz clearly put a lot of effort into that after ending, and it’s clear of that by how long it took for it to come out. It took awhile to come out because Cheritz worked to make it as enjoyable as possible, and well done and thought out. V’s route ending had a lot of unanswered questions and uncertainty to that was going to require a lot of answering– the after ending answered them all, in my opinion, so a long wait was entirely worth it, and should not be given much anger towards if you asked me. What would you rather have?: something well thought out or something rushed?

I will be honest, I am personally not a V fan. I don’t find much appeal to him, and find him to be dull at times, but I will always respect those that do really like him and favorite him. And not being a V fan doesn’t make my argument or opinion any less valid here.

Even not liking the character, I still liked the after ending. As said, it answered unanswered questions from his route. Those complaining, I almost don’t know what you expected. There is ill will towards V not being very present in it; I understand that, but from the end of his route we knew that there was a lot he was going to have to do in regards to Mint Eye, Rika, and redemption. Both endings have something sweet with V that is romantic and hard not to like if you ask me.

If you do not like the after ending, that is fine! In no way am I saying that you should. It is ok to dislike it. And it’s ok to expressed discontent. The issue is lack of respect and being undiplomatic. You can never get your argument, let alone be taken seriously, across if you’re disrespectful and crass. There is plenty I have not liken in the game, but bashing the company like a bunch of immature children is not the way to go about it. If you don’t like it, don’t read it again.

The whole, ‘there is no kissing CG’ cry fest I think is plain sad. Again, I can understand the want to have one, because yeah, it’s cute, they’re sweet, you enjoy them and would like one for him, but my god, there is a lot more to a character, to a story, to a game, then a kissing CG. I’m a hardcore Saeran fan, and you might read this and think, “She can’t say anything, she has three kissing CG’s,” well, I’ll trade you my kissing CG’s for MC and love interest with their child, because that was gosh darn cute, and I would take that over a kissing CG any day.

Don’t demand your money back;that is pathetic. Demand your money back if the after end wouldn’t play, or you were having issues with the game. But don’t demand your money back because you didn’t like the story.

Like any product, you buy it, and then you don’t buy it again, or you don’t use it again; just don’t read it. If it’s that heartbreaking to you, think of it as a donation to them of thanks for everything they’ve done. Like any company, they need to make money if they are going to continue making content.

I apologize if I sound aggressive in this post, because aggression is not my intention, but I can really not express how angered I am by how some of us have acted.

I think the mysme fandom can be really sweet, and lovable, and overall a fun place to be, but you can’t ignore some of the toxicity that roams around. You can find that anywhere but I think it’s in this fandom a little more than it really should. I used to run a Mystic Messenger headcanon blog, @yoosungiib , (yeah, hey guys, it’s me ;P) that I really loved running, and really loved writing for. I met a lot of wonderful people through the blog and fandom, one of which I am best friends with and will be finally meeting in person this summer. There are a lot of great people in this fandom, who are really awesome, and supportive.

But the key reason I quit the blog was because of how some people were rude and mean to me. I was sent really hateful messages constantly if I didn’t write something fast enough, or if I had a different opinion than them. I remember I didn’t write Jumin to someone’s liking, and I was completely bashed and called some really hurtful things. I was bullied on appearance. I would respond to some of them but most I would ignore. It came to a point, however, that I just couldn’t take it and quit all together. I wish I handled it better, but there is no pointing mourning time that has past. I regret it sometimes, but I also don’t. It was no longer a place I felt comfortable or safe in, like it had been when I started.

I can see some parallels with all the anger towards the V after ending; People were mad it didn’t come out fast enough, bashing the company, demanding money.

Why act this way when you can just be grateful for what you’re given by Cheritz?

That’s the end of my Ted Talk. Again, I’m sorry if this felt aggressive, but I felt it important to write this.I think the Mysme fandom can be a really wonderful fandom, and it has really wonderful people in the community. But we should really get our act together. It’s really us who should be apologizing.

That’s the tea sis.