#like in pc peter wanted caspian to say 'don't go' and caspian wanted peter to say 'i don't wanna leave you' so it's mutual in that way

[jessmalia]

I've known it from the very start We’re a shot in the darkest dark Oh no, oh no, I'm unarmed The waiting is a sadness Fading into madness Oh no, oh no, it won't stop

[supernovasilence]

narnia au where their parents were with them at the train station during the beginning of Prince Caspian. To say goodbye to them. Their parents being a little bit clingy(ptsd and overprotectiveness) wanted to both see them off on the train. The parents accidentally end up in Narnia with them. Shenanigans abound. Just imagine these two proper British parents having to deal with the fact that a magical talking lion made their children Kings and Queens, and they were for 15 years in Narnia, Narnia in general, watching their children fight and command armies, Caspian, and the fact that their kids are not really children anymore. Also Mrs and Mr Pevensies having to rely on their children in this unfamiliar place.

ooh yes, there is definitely untapped potential in Mr. and Mrs. Pevensie ending up in Narnia. They would struggle so much with everything. Why are there talking animals and trees and water. Why won't our children listen to us. Who gave our tiny daughter a dagger. Why are her siblings acting like Lucy having a dagger is fine.

Also, if they tag along from the start of PC, they would quickly meet Trumpkin, and I'm laughing so hard at the thought. Because he's also a pretty skeptical person, but they'd have different ideas of what counts as reasonable.

Mr. and Mrs. Pevensie: a real dwarf? How is he here? How did we get here?

Lucy: oh, Aslan probably summoned us.

Trumpkin: the magical king lion? don't be ridiculous. everyone knows there haven't been talking lions in Narnia in centuries

Mr. and Mrs. Pevensie: but other animals talking is normal

Trumpkin: obviously

Also the battle at the end? There are very serious thoughts to be had about the parents seeing their children all grown up, and realizing how capable they are (and mourning a little at how much responsibility they've obviously had to shoulder so young. they sent their children to the countryside to give them as much childhood as they could, and instead war found them. war and greater burdens than they would have had back home), but I keep getting distracted trying to decide which would be funnier, the book or the movie version.

Movie:

Mr. and Mrs. P: Lucy's not riding into battle! None of you should, but especially her!

Peter: don't be ridiculous

Peter: she's riding alone into the forest to find a lion

Or there's the book version of events, where Peter, Edmund, and Caspian fight in the battle while Susan and Lucy are off riding around on a lion, and literal Bacchus shows up with Silenus and a bunch of maenads and they conjure grape vines and wine everywhere.

(askfjdl and then Edmund eats dirt. The dryads are eating dirt at the victory feast and Edmund eats some because it looks like chocolate and imagine his parents. They've just started accepting their children actually are grown up and capable and royalty--and then their youngest son eats dirt.)

Also, maybe Mr. and Mrs. Pevensie look at Caspian and go "oh, another child carrying way too much responsibility. oh, you're an orphan and your uncle tried to kill you? okay, we have five children now"

[calliopechild]

Yeah, LWW ended with them back at the Professor’s, and since they'd only been there maybe a day or two when they found the wardrobe, they probably were there for a while after before heading back home. It's kind of funny, I'm pretty sure there's got to be a timeline of Narnia's history, because C.S. Lewis lays out loads of stuff that happens in that world, but for the time in Britain he just goes 'yeah whatever. It's boring here, some time passed, idk how much, who cares?' Bless him.

Supporting scenes are the only way I could ever accept it, tbh. It was such a letdown because I loved Peter in LWW; William Moseley did such a fantastic job portraying him as this earnest kid who is Trying His Best, just trying to be the 'man of the house' and look after his siblings and not strangle Edmund, and then they hit Narnia and he's just like ??? Okay sure, we're foretold royalty come to save a fantasy world...I have to protect my siblings from wolves and an actual witch with ice magic...I now have an entire army of people to also look after and take care of...I'm fine, this is fine. :*) And then he proceeds to fight a wolf and tries to send his siblings home even though he means to stay and fight for these people he doesn't know, even though he's scared and has no idea what he's doing. And all the while he has no idea why people listen to him or would sacrifice themselves for him, and I just...his portrayal in LWW was perfect and I absolutely adored it. That's why the seething shitshow of PC still offends me so much; it was a total 180 of his portrayal.

Yeah, it's the angst bullshit they seem to think they need now. But seriously, if they needed to make it more exciting or more film-friendly, why not have someone get captured? Or why not have them stumble onto a small part of Asshole Uncle's army by accident and have to fight their way out? That could have been perfect for upping the tension and getting more depth out of the characters. Caspian and Trumpkin and the rest would get to see the Pevensies fight and realize that holy shit, they really are the legendary four, it was never just stories and myths. We'd get the same sense of hopelessness we got from the castle raid re: seeing the difference in the size of their forces (though without the gratuitous death, obvs), especially if Caspian, who's grown up around this army, goes 'this is only a fraction of my uncle's soldiers.' Plus it'd make more sense why Peter suggested the one-on-one combat, because they literally have no other option. We'd get some bonus ~angst~ out of that, as Peter has to deal with the pressure as they all realize what they'd be up against if he fails. Caspian can even join him in angsting about someone else risking their life to face his uncle for his throne. We could even get some stupid scene between Susan and Caspian if they insisted on keeping that ship. Following that skirmish, Caspian could start waxing emo about 'oh wow, Peter really lives up to his reputation, he really did take up the crown at such a young age, how could I ever live up to that, blah blah blah,' and Susan can do the 'believe in yourself...I do *bats eyelashes*' crap they like to reduce female characters to. Or, if they actually wanted to treat her decently, have her go 'oh please, here's a load of stupid stuff Peter's done recently; being crowned doesn't make you infallible, it makes you accountable. We didn't rule perfectly, but we did our best to rule fairly and out of love and for Aslan, and that's what's important.'

I'm a sucker for epic fight scenes, and from what I can remember of it, I liked the duel between Asshole Uncle and Peter and the battle. But the castle raid felt like it was just violence for the sake of violence and angst, like fridging a female character just for the sake of the male lead's Manpain(TM), and that's lazy storytelling. That's them saying 'we don't want to take the time to show the stakes, or do it subtly, so instead we're just gonna have a bunch of people get killed because dead people=intensity, right?' Like, you do remember this was a kid's story, right guys?

(And while we're bitching about this travesty of a film, I have to throw in a quick WTF about the Jadis thing, because really? They honestly expect us to believe that Peter is going to have ANYTHING to do with Jadis, the witch who stabbed and nearly killed his little brother? R E A L L Y??? He's more likely to go 'oh, Jadis is trapped in a sheet of ice and offering me help... *grabs sledgehammer* Batter's up, bitch.')

Geezum. Well, I'm sorry it sucked, but I guess I'm glad to know I didn't miss anything. It’s good to hear that Eustace was a gem, at least; did they make him and his parents absolutely the worst toerags? I remember them being exactly the kind of people you loved to hate in the book, and I loved how Lewis described Eustace by basically saying that he was such an awful little toad that he deserved the horrible name his parents had saddled him with.

The real problem with books-turned-movies isn’t “omg they didn’t include every single word in the book” it’s “omg they completely overlooked the main theme, threw out any significant allegories, took away all the emotional pull, an turned it into a boring action movie with a love triangle in it”