#like idk by the definition of BL it might not be BL? but theres not really an official genre for 'queer in general' so far is there

[nebuvoid]

I beg to differ to anyone in the tag saying My new boss is goofy is 'cute BL bait' - there's a big difference between bait and queer media that just doesn't focus on direct romance. Just because they aren't shwinging around big yaoi dicks doesn't mean it's not clearly gay. Sometimes it doesn't need to be in your face, gay things are allowed to be subtle without being dubbed as bait or censored. ...though you really can't call this show subtle, there's literally something homosexual happening every 2 minutes. Hell it doesn't even matter if either couples get into a stated relationship - they clearly have no problem mentioning ex-boyfriends or dates with men. That's gay.

[gunsatthaphan]

So at this point what are the rumors for the 2023 GMMTV lineup? cuz I am lost over everithing that people are saying could be in it😅

theres way too many lmao 😅 at this point there's a theory for everything and everyone and I have definitely lost track lol. also there's this twitter account that's apparently spoiling the lineup anonymously but I have chosen not to give that too much attention.

But anyway based on what gmmtv has been hinting at, paired with what people are gossiping on twitter, I would say the most popular rumors are the following:

PerthChimon series (this one seems pretty likely to me; not sure if bl or not but I do believe they will be in a show together)

MilkLove GL (don't wanna jinx it but I think this one's pretty much safe. they're being kinda obvious about it. And if they’re not the mains then they will be the second leads in some other show for sure)

AouBoom BL (very likely imo. them being the sides in vice versa is pretty sus lol.)

TayNew comeback series (idk what to think about this, it still seems unlikely to me but I’m ready to be proven wrong)

JoongDunk BL #2 (I didn't believe it at first but they have been going to workshops recently so it looks like it might be a thing?)

OhmNanon series  (not sure if this is legit or just the fans being delulu but who knows)

DewTu series (I’m not following either of them so idk but I guess it’s likely)

EarthNamtan series (this is based on Namtan’s cameo in the MamaGogo finale which I didn’t see so idk. I would watch it though lol)

EarthMix BL #4 (not sure how much I should believe into this but there have been a few hints so... maybe?)

BrightNanon series (apparently they have been hanging out with 2 directors or something lol idk but ppl are talking about it)

ForceBook BL #2 (this is pretty unlikely imo)

these are the ones I’ve been seeing the most. If these all happen to be true somehow, then I would be the most excited for MilkLove, AouBoom and JoongDunk 🥺 (and PerthChimon but don’t tell anyone sdjkhfd)

If anyone knows more or has comments/corrections, drop a reply!

xxx

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HII MATTHEW SORRY FOR THE ACCIDNETAL UNFOLLOW

i was going to make curry today but thwn it struck me is there a reason why there’s so much age gap in bl (idk abt yuri because i do not read it much)

i think the age gaps between characters can actually be used to say something interesting be it about time or people or perception or whatnot, but do *u* think there is a particular reason why this trope among others is so common? and do u like have anything to add on?

DW ABOUT THE UNFOLLOW i thought it was a funny notif

also hm.... this question... might be better to send to someone who actually reads bl LOL, im just a gay man

but i think the first thing that comes to mind when i hear about that trope is the gross and illegal kind of age gap instead of the one that i think ur referencing where its like a "young adult x an older guy". theres definitely a difference in perceptions due to time, like u said, and it brings up the discussion of power dynamics within a relationship that r related to experience and age. theres also the possibility of discussing the relationship type of "1000+ yr deity x random mortal guy" which technically is an age gap but is never really applied to that specific niche.

on reflex id say the trope is common bc ppl are weird but idk, i dont read bl nor do i like this trope so i dont rlly have much to say!! hope ur curry was good tho

[inknose]

mdzs read diary part IV, the end

It’s inspiring how much self care wwx is gonna finally get now that his husband will go along with whatever he does, so he’s gotta look out for lwj’s well being if not his own. that is emphatically the STUFF

dragging my hands down I face as I read this, after all these chapters of getting up close and personal with ghouls bleeding from every orifice, slaying ancient beasts, rebelling against the entire cultivation world, the two of them are absolutely paralyzed by middle school crush sleepover math

chicken

he actually drew kissy doodles .... he....

IDK I THINK I JUST DOCUMENTED THIS PART CUZ I WAS STILL SCREAMING you cant expect me to have very useful things to say at this point

this is torture you are both so mushy you are so GONE

This part really stood out to me, it’s an attitude I feel like wwx implies with his inner narration a few times but most clearly says here: he’s not one for allowing himself to exaggerate how bad his circumstances are/could be even a little bit - he’s already lived through some extreme low points and found a way to keep going, so he never makes sweeping statements about what he couldn’t live without (Inner JingYi: you’re supposed to say you’d be lost without him here!!!) Instead he seems to accept as a given that being alive doesn’t guarantee him any pleasantness or joy at all, and as a result his feelings toward being in TRUE LOVE are surprisingly pragmatic, but also colored with such gratitude. There are a lot of things in the novel that struck me, like this, as being just a little to the left of familiar tropes/sentiments, and were more touching for it. Whether it be the influence of culture difference as opposed to what I’m used to reading in most western romance stories, or MXTX’s unique outlook, or a combination of both, it was really refreshing and made me pause over it. Not “I can’t imagine living without you” but “I could be living without you, but instead I get to be with you and I think that’s the best thing that could happen.”

ADJFDKFJ THE UST BEING SO STRONG THAT EVEN THE VILLAIN COMMENTS ON IT IN THE MIDDLE OF EXECUTING HIS EVIL PLANS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WILL NEVER FAIL TO MAKE ME LAUGH MY ASS OFF. hes like god damn! here I thought I had problems

it was at this moment that I realized we were doing this Now... I’m still recovering. What a scene. I am so glad I saw the most incredible fanart soon afterwards, bc the fact that someone has already drawn a perfect comic of this part means I don’t have to

I love you so much, you are so annoying, you are perfect... I like how he’s been experiencing openly requited love for all of ten minutes but he’s already figured out how to weaponize it to piss people off

doing!!! his!!! job!!!!!

ahh... it’s a really good story. JGY is a great character. One of the most interesting differences for me between drama watching vs. novel reading experience is that without an actor to bat his vulnerable doe eyes at you and smile faintly with his cute dimples, the book does not go much out of its way to try to lull the reader into a false sense of security around him or *endear* him to you the way the show does. But just by seeing events through wei wuxian’s POV, its still enough to evoke pity or understanding towards him. The overall impression is a bit more detached though, there’s less emphasis on the spectacle of how he could manipulate everyone closest to him and more of a general feeling of resigned tragedy that everyones the worst on this bitch of an earth.

I CANNOT DEAL WITH YOU FOR EVEN ONE MORE SECOND!!!!

I clearly paused to take note of less and less parts at the end & the extras due to: a) too excited to reach the end b) too spicy to photograph and c) too sleepy cuz I kept reading in the middle of the night. but I absolutely took the time for Bro We Are Teens appreciation corner:

I’d absolutely read 40 more extra chapters of their monster-of-the-week field trip antics.

god... poor Jin Ling now basically has to deal with divorced parents that talk shit about each other to him whenever he is saying with one of them. except they are both his uncles. just a disasterhood of all uncles from start to finish. AUUUGH wei wuxian and jiang cheng have fucked me up completely, I dream of them reconciling but I also REFUSE to believe it would ever be easy. let me know if theres a fanfic that absolutely tortures you for decades before they hug

HAHAHA oh no this man ain’t making it to immortality thats for damn sure. HE’S JUST GONNA TRY AS HARD AS HE CAN HIS WHOLE LIFE NOT TO LOOK AT HIM BUT THEYRE *MARRIED* SDLKFJSF ohhhh it’s too funny, like... the mundane domestic family drama IN the fantastical swords and sorcery setting is what really ratchets up these things from amusing to fucking hilarious I think

aaaa the end... final random thoughts? No not final, I would like to please keep discussing at length and exhaustively, all the time please - CQL has gotta be one of the best TV adaptations I’ve seen. ANY adaptation of anything would be lucky to be so good!! reading the novel has just made me appreciate it even more.

- I don’t think I can do justice to what I find most fascinating about comparing the two versions briefly, to do that I need to get drunk and ramble at my friends for hours but... the condensed version is something like this. Really all the significant differences between the two versions (besides the ones which can be attributed to censorship and therefore aren’t worth discussing) are a side effect of the structure of how the story is told - there’s barely anything changed arbitrarily. Aside from having a cold opening, the drama sticks to a very linear version of the story, and I think for a TV show or film, that’s probably the best way to do it. We see everything, we get shocked and tricked and betrayed and surprised along with the characters, we feel the biggest impact at the climactic scenes having experienced all the build-up. The novel on the other hand is not only much more non-linear in WHEN we learn bits and pieces of information, but that information is also obfuscated under wei wuxian’s multiple layers of Unreliable Narratoritis, which are as follows: 1) difficulty remembering things because of personality/avoiding painful memories/actual memory loss, 2) No Homo Goggles still on, and 3) a wry sense of humor that makes the reader unsure of how much they can trust his attitude toward things, especially near the beginning. The experience of reading is a puzzle the reader has to mentally piece together through all of the above listed camouflage, and the puzzle itself is a three-sided mystery: One - How Bad of a guy was Wei WuXian really, and how exactly did all the bad stuff in his life go down; Two - wangxian epic pride & prejudice gambits; Three - political murder mystery. (I love stories like this btw... though I fully admit I’m glad I watched first this time bc it might have taken me a long time to tackle otherwise.) Because of this, where the drama wants to pull you in and submerge you in all the most potent emotional parts, the novel in direct contrast deliberately side-steps around these things and asks that you hurt yourself by filling in the blanks. In fact the more intense emotions and painful memories involved, whether it be his relationship with jiang yanli, his DEATH, the darkest days of war times etc, the more the novel evasively withholds details. I actually really like both styles of storytelling but each one is obviously way better suited to its medium. ANYWAY.... THATS BASICALLY WHERE MY BRAINS AT WHILE IM READING GAY SWORD WIZARD BOOKS

- The extras are so saturated with domestic married bliss that it’s a good thing I stopped taking pictures because I’d just take a picture of every page. this is too much for me to take... I did jump the gun a few times and read a few fanfics while I was still mid-read of the book (I tried to hold out but alas I am mortal) and at one point after finishing I was like “wow what fic was it in where lwj says something cute and wwx kisses him in public but they’re in the corner of the restaurant so no one really sees... OH NO WAIT that was actually in there.” and ... and that’s the LEAST OF IT... *stares into the distance* theyre married wow

- I ofc couldn’t help but see a few vague blogs beforehand so honestly I was braced for something like, wildly ooc for the sake of porn to happen in the extras... I definitely appreciate how the incense burner porn interludes could be uhhh a lot for many people and not my personal cup of tea in terms of smut however [here follows the words of a poisonous frog who has dwelt her whole life in the rainforests of BL] the concept is also surprisingly SWEET SDFLKJF like wwx sees lan wangji’s darkest mixed-up violent teenage fantasies and he’s just like aww babe you had a crush on me!! just... good for them

- I swear I’m not gonna rehash every cute married thing they do but wei wuxian grading papers in the tub........................rEALLY GOT ME

- I want to Draw - ok thats enough if I keep going I’ll just write “wei wuxian grading papers in the tub” seven more times probably

[shijiujun]

Soooo.. what’s after MODC?? Anything else to look forward to? 😭

HIHI!!! Hahaha unfortunately, currently I don’t have anything else on my list after MODC - Will catch up with Trapped translations (wow it’s been long guys I’m sorry) and fics, and I just ordered the MODC novel so I may also do translations for that (sorry also to anyone who feels like they got cheated by my translation schedule for Trapped cries) and when the MODC Diary Logbook comes I’ll translate that too - Still HAVENT figured out if I’ll do fics for MODC because I’m not that good at the characters... And getting back on The Untamed gifs and merch and stuff!!!

I’m going to Taiwan next weekend to see Chris for his concert, and also buying the MDZS and TGCF books!!! Gonna be spending my time reading for a while hahaha

If you’re looking at shows, I think everyone has been quite excited about the Thai BL dramas coming up? I’m really not good at any of the Thai dramas but I did see some upcoming mentioned by some mutuals!!

Personally I prefer watching Chinese/Korean dramas! If I start on anything else u guys will be the first to know!! Hit my DMs up if you wanna discuss any other show XD

In terms of events - The Untamed Boys (coined TUBS in short which is pretty hilarious) is doing a concert in Bangkok on 26th Jan next year, much to my sadness because that’s Chinese New Year period idk which Chinese person will be able to go for it cries I know my parents will break my legs if I even suggest it HAHAHA - THERES also MODC fanmeets! Today is Chengdu, apparently Tianjin and Guangzhou are in the works. I’m quite sure Bangkok might be a stop, and Korea is slated for 1 Feb next year!! As always, many many things going on!!!

I’m so broke because of all these shows, my wallet is honestly glad for the break, but I definitely welcome any other new distractions!! I think the sad part is that we don’t have news of History4 CRIESSSS I NEED EITHER TRAPPED SEASON 2 OR MODC SEASON 2 EITHER IS FINE BOTH IS EVEN BETTER - Nothing to look forward to. But then again I never expected 2019 to be so full of awesome shows too so... LETS WAIT!! Lemme know if u see anything interesting I’d love to check it out 😘

[guiltguymatsuno]

so, yeah, Osomatsu-san for the fandom thing,,, Aaand if you want to?? Maybe the first fandom you were into? (Sorry, my english is bad ha ha)

SORRY I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS AND JUST NOW SAW IT

Your English is excellent, dear!! thank you for the ask!!

here i goo oo o

MATSUS

The first character I first fell in love with: Well, Ichimatsu of course. they hit you with the espkitty episode pretty early, and its all downhill from there.

The character I never expected to love as much as I do now: Todomatsu!! I hated his weak bitch ass!! but now i love him

The character everyone else loves that I don’t: Probably iyami.

The character I love that everyone else hates: TO BE SO HONEST it might be oso lmfao. who do people hate??

The character I used to love but don’t any longer:maybs totoko? shes funny sometimes....mostly shes just the definition of extra..The character I would totally smooch: (sweats) uh......hhhh....

kill my ass. karamatsu, probably.

The character I’d want to be like: I want to be passionate and able to cook so chibitaThe character I’d slap: I would pay money to punch todomatsu in the face tbqhA pairing that I love:karabita??? YE

but really this fandom is all about the platonic ships so jyushi&ichi is my fav fav matsubro duo

A pairing that I despise: full disclosure all bl/m//atsu ships are bad but theres a special place in the hell of mymy cold, black heart for i//chik/ara

FIRST FANDOM??

WAS KINGDOM HEARTS BOI

The first character I first fell in love with: it was rikuThe character I never expected to love as much as I do now: namineThe character everyone else loves that I don’t: axel like...ok we get it.......enough...The character I love that everyone else hates: ?? idk i dont keep up with kh fandom. who do they hate??? donald and goofy probably actually lets be honest. fuck you d&g are my fuckin boysThe character I used to love but don’t any longer:ppfftttt idk. larxene maybe? i hope i spelled her name rightThe character I would totally smooch: sora a+ boyfriend matirial.

namine a+ girlfriend material

The character I’d want to be like: is that a joke.The character I’d slap: i guess diz bc of how he treated roxas bc that was fuckin rude manA pairing that I love:kill my ass idk sorikai ot3 is goodA pairing that I despise: (flashbacks to fanfiction.net circa 2006) akuroku

[jejciu]

etranger should definitely get an anime imo its just, very well done and the art is superb and the charaters feel very real and its literally a really well done bl manga. i very much hope for an anime adaptation for it. if we get the quality doukyuusei had im willing to wait 10 years for it lmao, are there other bl manga or just manga in general that u like? ur taste are very good

yeah etranger would definitely work well as an anime, even though it is rather slow paced. but josei anime are like that, too. so why wouldnt this work?

honestly, i dont really read much manga lately. the only series i  k i n d  o f  follow is etranger and other kii kanna’s works, ganbare!! nakamura-kun (not the biggest fan of the two other syundei’s series…. especially of that one about teacher-student relationship, it was pretty fucking disturbing….) and… that might be it? i used to read LOTS of stuff, but now i… kind of slowed down. i recall enjoy works of artists like ymz, fujitobi, nojiko, suehiro machi (NOT the guy who drew shoujo tsubaki midori!!!! honestly, do NOT read/watch shoujo tsubaki midori, unless ur into guro and stuff), kurahashi tomo was good too, if i remember it well?? tho theres plenty of great artists who draw…. rather questionable stuff lol. so please be careful and look for trigger warnings first on bakaupdates.

in general though, i enjoy kimi to boku. and wandering son. and retro manga, especially retro horrors. junji ito is fucking great, too. stuff like tomie or mimi’s ghost stories.  

i keep thinking but im not so sure if i can come up with more titles/artists…. idk. answering this already took me way too much time. sorry for that. have a good day, thank you for asking for my recommendations!!!