#like i understand that there is a kid so it wouldn't be an andor kind of show; and it's fine to have the kid that relieves the tension

[psychomusic]

i started watching tbb but. it's so surface level. does it get better?? I'm super disappointed by the s1 finale

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Heyy coolcat! Hope you’ve been doing well! I’ve been trying to decipher the headache that is the season 2 timeline pre-heroes. When it comes to the alts, I’m pretty sure they just immediately landed in the s1 world and Alyssa just grew up there. (At least that’s what’s implied by the stories on the reddit) Which is so depressing, because she literally grows up without any other kids like at least in ruxmor she had Alva and Andor.

There’s also this one story called “Mots Log” and I have to say I like the characterization there. Now I could be misinterpreting things, but Mot sounds like he’s more sad about not being able to cut a check then he is Dianite being dead. And idk that’s a bit more interesting than him being a hopeless about his and Dianite’s relationship status.

While reading I feel like the writing contradicts itself, like I can’t figure whether jumping into the void was Spark or Ianite’s idea. Because I understand the why, which is to revive the Dianite in another realm to bring back theirs. But that feels dumb, like our heroes brought back Ruxmors Dianite with no confirmation that s1 version was back too. It feels like the alts journey was set up to fail. They have no proof that that idea would’ve worked anyways.

The thing is, I really enjoy putting a story together based on clues and information and the like. I thinks it’s fun. But when the writing is working against itself it’s just nauseating, ya know?

Here’s the link if you wanna read em too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRealmOfMianite/search?q=flair_name%3A"Official%20Lore"&restrict_sr=1&page=0&type=link&sort=new&before=t3_31a5qm

So, when it comes to the heroes landing in the Season 1 world and then just spending 10 years there, I have no doubt that that is the canonical answer. However, as with everything in Season 2, this brings up some questions namely: If the alts immediately landed in the Season One world, why don't Wag and Champwan know who they should have been in the Season 1 world when the alts arrived. Like, obviously irl this is because the writers didn't know right from episode 1 that the alts were gonna be in the season 1 world (or I assume knew they were gonna exist at all). And even if they did, they likely wouldn't have given any of the streamers info for the story, even if they should have known it. Though I'll be honest, I don't know if they thought about much about the Season 1 world side of the story at all, evidenced by the fact that Skipper Redbeard disappears into not existing despite being like one of 3 alive NPCs from the end of Season 1.

I definitely haven't read the old reddit lore for a while, but I am not surprised that Mot has some bouncy characterization since like he is both the person raised by Dianite to be the man he is today, and also the man who is in love with Dianite. Honestly I kind of like the idea of him being more cold than a hopeless romantic, I think it's just a more interesting Champion/God relationship to have them kinda be purely business.

I'd say that it makes more sense for the jumping into the void to be Spark's idea, as I think it makes more sense for Ianite's reaction to him being gone being so extreme if he also did something she didn't want him to do. Maybe it being Ianite's idea was some earlier writing to tie it more into the Season 1 finale, make more links between world? I remember the idea that they wanted to bring back Ruxomar Dianite via Season 1 Dianite, which seemed like a good idea until it became really clear that the deaths across alts don't work like that. Like Wag doesn't die when Steve does, I don't think Season 1 Ianite dies when Ruxomar Ianite does, and as you've pointed out they do just revive Ruxomar Dianite without needing to check that the Season 1 guy is now alive and kicking again.

Honestly, I totally know what you mean. Season 2 feels like they wanted to make the story bigger, but didn't want to plan ahead. It kind of means that the story from the start of the season has a lot of information that contridicts the story at the end of the season. And all of this is not really helped by the fact that they definitely shaped the story about what people thought was going to happen. Like I remember when Season 2 was going I saw a thread in reddit that was just: Random Commenter: "I bet Ianita is just never gonna get brought up again." Writer: "Oh we'll see about that." And then Ianita became literally one of the most important plot points. Like just, yeah, the Season 2 writing is kind of nuts and I haven't even tried to look into it in detail.