#like i don't care if lily doesn't like utena

[critical-espurr]

Hello, hi, I've decided I have more to say on this one, hope you don't mind.

Another reason it's incredibly difficult to take this stance from Lily seriously is that, if someone had a similar sort of deeply emotionally moving response she's describing here but it was due to an anime, manga, JRPG etc., she'd call them a weeb and imply they're a pervert of some sort. She probably does think that art can influence and deeply move people, but only the (few and far between) pieces of art that she personally has any respect for. As we know, she's disturbingly self-centered and self-absorbed like that. Rules for thee, not for she.

One of the pieces of fiction that not only still deeply emotionally moves me to this day but made me realize just how I had been harmed and wronged in the past is the anime she keeps mischaracterizing as a substanceless, violent abusefest between lesbians (not because she's actually seen it, mind -- she's super lying about that and I believe the old gossip blog has proof of that somewhere, proof I saw when Lily herself INITIALLY POSTED IT -- but because it inspired cartoons she doesn't like and that makes her incredibly mad for some reason.) We all know she wouldn't approach this the same way she does for the books that have supposedly moved her (and I say supposedly because, as mentioned by our good Gallade friend here, she's bragged about how she hasn't read anything for a time period that roughly makes up half of her total life so far.)

this is a deeply ironic point to make from the woman who, not that long ago, was bragging about never reading anything in the last 15 years. especifically because she thought everything sucked anyway.

or about how she never reads fanfiction outside of a very limited scope.

or how she claims artists wanting credit for their work are divas that should be doxxed and mocked for eternity.

or how they don't deserve any recognition at all as long LO deems they don't because she stole their work on a arbitrary timeframe.

because LO just has that much respect for art, right?

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Lily is making throwaways to talk to herself now cause she's too afraid to turn anons back on.

[Lily's post]

There are so many golden nuggets in here. Since these are both most likely Lily lets look at a few!

Lily's media takes are beyond just bad, she asserts that the creators of children's cartoons are dangerous extremists for perceived bad messaging in their works that Lily just makes up.

Even without that Lily's takes on symbolism, metaphor, and just basic narrative structure are worth examining because they are some of the most bizarre and ignorant many of us have ever encountered.

But no one "orients their life around you", Lily. It just feels that way because you sit in your subsidized apartment on the internet all day ordering Door Dash from a Subway you could easily walk to. I'd say get some sun but you'd probably turn to ash like a vampire.

As for me? I do something you're incapable of: putting on a show.

No one cares you're trans, Lily. Get over it. Plenty of trans people exist in online nerd culture. You can't hide from the consequences of your own words and actions by using your demographic as shield.

Pfft. They could try. Go ahead. Make videos about me. Hell, Lily, unlike you I don't even hold or delete comments. The little anklebiters who like to lecture me in my comment section don't seem to realize I'm the one allowing them to be there expressing their stupid ignorant opinions because that aligns with my principles.

Lily doesn't make a video about me because she knows I'd just react to and laugh at it. And with any luck YouTube has taken her ability to copyright strike away because she's used it maliciously 9 times.

Also retard. Just say retard, Lily. Not "tradigrade" not "child left behind" not "fetal alcohol syndrome". Just say retard.

You clearly want to. And are bitter you can't because of the insular audience you've cultivated.

This is how I know it's you because only Lily Orchard could be upset I criticized the bland Antarctica anime for being a bland Antarctica anime the sole focus of which is to get 4 teenage moeblobs on a big technical ship. Which is written by a middle aged man who does nothing but moeblob shows and directed by a woman who does nothing but moeblob shows. They both worked on No Game No Life, Lily. You know. This:

The one with the 11 year old loli in love with her step brother. Actually Lily it sounds right up your alley. You should watch it next.

Antarctica show is so full of so many plot contrivances. Why does Shirase just carry her wad of Antarctica cash everywhere and dropped it so carelessly? It's sure convenient that her and Kimari just happen to go to the same school and Kimari happens to hear her loudly wailing about the money in the bathroom. How does Hinata, a 16 year old high school drop out who works in a convenience store think she can even hope to afford this trip? Where are her parents in this anyway? We never see them.

The girls only get on the trip in the first place because another girl who is a child star vlogger just happens to be also going and just happens to contact them wanting them to go in her stead. And after making friends with them she tells her mother that she won't go without the other 3 girls but... the rest of the expedition that adamantly refused to let them on before just suddenly agrees to take them? Because this one minor celebrity and her manager mom who isn't even going said so? Takako only wanted to go to Antarctica because it just sounded neat, she's not an artic researcher, or engineer, or anything that would justify her being out there (a woman in STEM? Perish the thought says 50 year old Jukki Hanada I guess) and she died out in a blizzard trying to get a laptop to email her daughter who she has now left motherless for no good reason. And this is only ever treated as heartwarming and not idiotic.

Face it Lily. The entire show exists just to get 4 teenage girls on a big ship so otaku men can enjoy both brainless moeblobs and technical ship porn. The show sure likes to emphasize over and over how the girls are joshi kosei too. Why couldn't the show have been about the trip of the adult women (who incidentally also act like brainless teenage girls in the show)?

Yeah you guys aren't winning against me on Utena lol. Here, have my post where I have the video walking people through the episode itself. If you want to ignore the actual text of the series in order to appear morally forthright that's your own problem:

And everyone on the bus clapped, and that Asian woman's name? Albert Einstein. What does this have to do with anything except poisoning the well by linking this unsourced incident in peoples' minds to Ant and I?

Also it's Twitter. So Twitter is bad and unreasonable here, but they're not bad and unreasonable when they're squawking at me over a classic anime they've never even watched. Or squawking at Ant cause "L-L-Lily is totes a Native trans woman?? So you can't criticize any of the batshittery that spews constantly from her face hole??"

Ah now we're on to Lily's response to herself.

Oh look out Ant, Lily's got damning screenshots she just can't show anybody right now.

Probably similar to when she happily accepted a screenshot from Poppy of Poppy being creepy to Courtney and tried to blame Courtney for it.

Lily you attract attention when people talk about you because the wider nerdy internet knows your takes are insanely bad. And they know your takes are all tangled up in your personal dramas and heinous actions. They can tell. You're not as subtle as you think you are.

I cut together my response to your bad Utena takes in your 2023 Steven Universe video on a whim and slapped it on my completely unestablished personal YouTube account. It got 5k views in a few days. That's how disliked you are.

Nobody knows who I am but you sure copyright struck 4 of my livestream VODs trying to take my channel down. The 4 VODs where I most talk about your blatantly obvious incest fetish at that. Nobody knows who I am but I've gained 10k subs in 6 months primarily from dunking on you. Because I'm better at YouTube than you are.

And people do bitch at me for saying retard constantly. And you know why I keep doing it? Because the ones who most often tell me not to are some of the most annoying, entitled, self-righteous, puritanical control freaks and it's an easy way to weed them out.

By the way have fun trying to find a lawyer within 10 days who will tell you "Why yes, Lily, you can absolutely copyright these videos of yours full of footage that belong to Viacom, Netflix, Amazon, Toei Animation, Dreamworks, Activision-Blizzard, and many more!"

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According to Lily Revolutionary Girl Utena is the worst anime cause it has a trauma survivor who is struggling to break free from the stranglehold of her trauma and abuser and because she was scarred in irreparable way (which is not true cause she later gets better) and takes her anger on her partner but Lily gets to have trauma dumb character? A vent CO doomed to a sad ending? Hypocrisy much?

Lily doesn't seem to care about the effects of trauma, or how difficult it can be for victims to leave their abusers.

For Lily, stories about victims of trauma and abuse need to recover quickly in order to be "good". If your character don't recover fast enough for her liking, and behave only in a "good" way while doing so, then she will proclaim your story bad.

As for the trauma dump OC... She litterally accused the creator of the owl house of doing something similar, if I remeber correctly, and stated that was a "bad thing". So I guess she conveniently forgot that she does the exact same thing.

[opinated-user]

Lilys new vid kinda comes off as bootlicker towards company’s lol ( has she reviewed any ‘indie’ cartoons beside hazbin)

i have a few thoughts watching the video:

-does LO know that friends to lovers is also a trope and that it can also be badly handled? she bashes catradora for being so desperate to fit the trope enemy to lovers by "sad pathetic people", but constantly puts on friends to lovers as the best possible outcome for any possible story that everyone likes and it's inherently better. pokemadhouse actually is the perfect example of a badly written friends to lovers if g and c!LO got together because G has done so much horrible things to c!LO that ignoring it makes it more psychologically disturbing than catradora. it doesn't matter if on the actual text are not together because the reasoning is not because G did those things but because it's "illegal". LO writes these abusive situations and then asks the readers to ignore ir for the sake of enjoying the melodrama or "wholesome" moments, apparently not realizing any wholesome element is immediately nulled by the ignored abuse.

-LO does not understand how the industry works... or timelines. she prefers to blame author having bad ideas and bad tastes before admiting that the "last episode confirmation of queerness" is corporate meddling and not because "it's more exciting to end a show like that". She-ra's popularity did gave foot to TOH's rep because executive saw that, realized that it was making money, it wasn't losing business and only then did allowed it on their Network... but only for a while because that was the reason the show got butchered in the end too. every little bit of rep we had in the past helped out the next because executives kept seeing allowing queer characters to exist even on children's show was profitable. not even once LO talks about how the wedding episode, the one she thinks is not good rep and did nothing, was also the reason why SU got cut from the originally longer plan they had.

she seems to have the notion that if this creators really did care they could have done everything they supposedly wanted, so if the result is less than perfect then they only have themselves to blame, effectively taking any responsability off the companies who are ultimately responsible for giving the resources for these creators to do anything.

-to be someone who hates anime so much i don't understand why she keeps bringing it up to undermine rep in the west. anime and manga have long had queer stories with queer characters than we currently have on the west, but western companies have no reason to care about that because the cultures are different, the target demographics are different, the public in general is different so they can't see those numbers and treated them the same. USA companies started airing anime because it was cheap and got them an audience with them barely doing anything for it, not because they actually cared about those stories beyond sanitize them to make them more "kid friendly."

more than that, bringing Sailor moon as example of "good rep" that is better than any other western show when originally many people knew them as too close "cousins" in the USA and that was their only connection to the story until much later when they had internet and could view the full context of what happened... it's so reductive and doesn't do any good for her argument that the "bad rep" (korrasami, SU, she-ra... Utena for some reason) didn't do anything for the sake of improving or helping future, better rep in the future.

she talks about how viewing each of these shows as "the cornstones" that did something new is a "capitalist" mindset... because anime existed before. at the same time she talks about how it's a collective effort where everyone helped each other and... i don't understand how she can both get it and also don't? it's so confusing to follow her reasoning, even when i have see her talk about this so many times before. it's like she has all the points but she refuses to make any connection between them for the sake of her narrative, one where all the shows she doesn't like never did anything good for anyone and the corporations did nothing wrong.

-to answer your question: no, she has never reviewed anything not made by corporations beyond hazbin hotel and makes no sense because the indie scene is bursting with queer characters and stories. MO at least sometimes goes out of that restrictive bubble LO wraps herself in to search for more diverse stories and talk positively about them, but it seems that unless it's a major production that is "official" LO has no interest...

who is the one with the capitalist point of view now.

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Lily's opinions really are founded under piles upon piles of BS.

because she will absolutely claim a show like Sailor moon did better LGBTQ rep than Utena simply because Sailor Moon's most famous LGBTQ pair is just that. THEY'RE WELL KNOWN everyone knows about them through even if they've never seen the show because of a thing called cultural osmosis.

quick explanation, Cultural osmosis is where you recognize someone or something even though you've never engaged with the media it's from.

example: you know of Godzilla, but you've never seen his movies or know about his character from his films. you only identify Godzilla as a giant radioactive dinosaur/lizard and that's it.

(and given Lily's piss poor answer to Crim when they cited Godzilla as an example OOOOOh boy does her answer show she only knows him through Cultural Osmosis)

but ask Lily who Zoisite is and a, well, you saw her answer.

and given Lily's soon to be defense is probably her saying something like: "oh I said I don't know about them because they were such a boring villain so of course I wouldn't care to remember them"

So even though Sailor Moon had a LESBIAN couple you were more than willing to pull as an example to trash talk another show, you couldn't be bothered to learn about Sailor Moon's other LGBTQ romances? like oh, they're very FIRST GAY COUPLE BETWEEN MEN?

yeah say that to Sailor Moon's 1st gay man couple and you can infer she either doesn't care about LGBTQ characters except the ones she prefers (which goes to show how much of an ally she is if she disregards a gay man couple) or she really just didn't watch the show all together and just cited Haruko and Michiru because they're the famous ones who got censored into cousins, or hell maybe it's all of the above

Lily just didn't care about a gay man to see if they were an example good enough to learn about because gay men aren't her thing and she only picked Sailor Moon because of cultural osmosis since it's low hanging fruit for her to google and use to go "HA HA dis good, You-Ten-UH bad"

Lily you had a freakin golden opportunity to show you could have out played someone and MAYBE show you could do research to make rebuttels, no one put a damn timer on you, you could have replied months from now.

but you were as lazy going through these lists as you were with your 100 writing tips list.

Her saying "Who?" to Zoisite and Kunzite is so funny to me. They're from Sailor Moon, Lily. Ya know, the show you claimed did lesbians better than Utena despite having the same director?

not to mention Zoisite the very first POV villain we get in the entire series. Like, come on.