#like ccj is treated as a ''dad band'' in the modern day (so tulip & co can discover it) which implies that they experienced
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#bolo liveblogs#infinity train#ryan akagi#min-gi park#''famous'' and ''good'' are both up to interpretation ofc#but I've seen some differing interpretations#like ccj is treated as a ''dad band'' in the modern day (so tulip & co can discover it) which implies that they experienced#a pretty substantial level of success to enter the musical canon in that way.#though their conversation in the party car raises the issue that they might not be successful#even if they're genuinely good artists on account of racism. which isn't discussed super often#in ''where are they now?'' type retrospectives. the idea that you can do everything right and still not be recognized#just because of who you are.#but on the OTHER other hand... what we do hear of their work in the show kind of sucks#you can argue that that's a translation convention/essentially that you have to suspend your disbelief#and imagine a more-sophisticated song in its place but like. what if it's not.#I've also increasingly seen some people saying that their music is canonically bad and that's *fine*#that it was never about them being materially successful so much as happy and artistically/personally fulfilled#so anyway. I wanted to do a poll about it
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