#like asd cuz english is not my first language and may fucked the english terms

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Oh yeah, its pretty much the reason i love fics or books so much over shows or series, and i am biased here cuz i dont remember most of the show for how long its been since i last watched it, and ngl Danny being one of my comfort characters makes me miss some cannon stuff, for well, being comfort.

But on the counterpoints

I totally forgot those chapters, so yeah i didnt get much base for that, but it is something that i do get to ask myself when assessing cases, so i vibed with what i remembered

This is a neutral ground. As you said adults (specifically the older generation than most of whom grew up w this show) tend to be the one raised with the mindset of "thats how teens are" and in their faver, yeah, puberty and changes in social environments like coming from middle school to high school and hormones and starting to discover yourself do make you the teen cliché, bc its a cliché cuz its a pattern we go through and its common enough to be of notice, what i was mostly pointing at with that is more on the drastic changes that can be concerning or doesn't fit with the expected change by puberty, thats what i meant by obvious precedent, tho i didnt say it more clearly. 

And yeah not being diagnosed doesnt mean not having it, and you can develop mechanism on your own, I meant more in a formal one, cuz like, you know how kids in noisy environments play with their ears by covering and uncovering them to play with "noise-silence-noise-silence" thats a mechanism to deal with overstimulation and is something they develop on their own and its more of an instict, its mostly seen in autistic individuals but not exclusive, with a diagnosis i meant more as in having assistance from a professional to explain mechanisms, how they function and more formal ones, like using noise-canceling headphones for example for this scenario, or breathing exercises or others that are more subtle

lil break here to go deeper with that, I'm going to use the example of an autistic case cuz its the one I feel is easier to explain and applies more to what I want to explain, and also what I have more experience studying: Autism by the DSM-5 Editon (2022) states autism as persistent deficiencies in social communication and social interaction; it can vary based on how difficult it is for the individual to have a successful social communication and in restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior (it can be Grade 1, as is needing assistance [in learning how to interact, being explained certain social norms, interactions, innuendos, and such]). Grade 2, as in noticeably needing assistance [heavier need in help understanding social cues or having a more socially disruptive behavior], and Grade 3, being the more used in media to "represent" autism and the one that does need a more more incorporated assistance) That being said, when an individual presenting ASD (autism spectrum disorder) goes to a specialist, they are taught how to behave. It sounds bad, but give me a sec to explain: they are taught different ways to help with their specific situations. If they get more overstimulated by noises, they are taught how to deal with those situations to avoid a crisis; if they get more overstimulated by noises, they are taught how to deal with those situations to avoid a crisis, if its the light that's more upsetting, they learn how to deal with that, and so on. (Autistic individuals tend to have more kin senses, so they can get overstimulated easier; that's why it's known that some textures, foods, lights, or noises can be jarring for them.) Autism is a social disorder, so to say; they have difficulty adapting, and that can make it difficult to interact with their environment and to establish interpersonal relationships, so they learn mechanisms that help with their anxiety caused by the uncertainty of how to interact and also to notice social cues that they may not totally get. So you can develop a mechanism on your own, like covering your ears, but it can be taken as a disruptive behavior (sadly it is frowned upon, but it's what usually happens), or you can be taught a mechanism that can be more effective and less "disruptive," so to say.

Sorry I turned this into a whole ass lecture about autism lol, but that is what I meant as in a mechanism given by a professional, and usually you are diagnosed to be given one that fits better your specific needs.

Back to the last point, is that yeah, not the best example i could give, but there are different instances where Jazz does tell their parents about theire behavior, and ussually teens arent taken seriously in the matter, mostly with good reason but also due to age/respect associated stigmas and such (the number of parents that i have encountered that still dont belive their kids have an actual disorder even after being diagnosed and seen by several specialist its concerning) but as you said, theres a lot of off-screen context we lack to completely have an actual picture of theire relationship and dynamics as a family, it is known that the fentons are a very loving family, we see how the parents are to their kids and how danny respects and defends his father from Vlad over and over again, there's a lot we can take from what is shown but is also needed to be reminded that this is a tv show for kids, so they do show more of a interesting plot chapter by chapter instead of a deep and thoughtful lore and some stuff and be misinterpreted (like danny being trans, love the head canon but its a fact that Butch Hartman is not a trans friendly individual) or theres some plot holes, or some rushed stuff and so.

As i said im biased by not having all the canon facts in mind and having some delusion by what its canon and what is fanon.

Okay but like. Real talk. 'Their son died and they didn't even notice' sounds real bad, but can we like- Danny was still living with them. It is reasonable to assume that your kid that is still living with you is not dead. It is not like he just disappeared one day and they didn't notice.

'Their son died and they didn't notice' is a FANTASTIC line for characters to torment themselves and each other with. Danny can lay awake at night and think about it. Maddie can rip her hair out over it. Sam can throw it at them in a spiteful rage.

But like. It's definitely not an accurate summary of what happened there. And I think the author should maintain a careful awareness of that.