#like I can't fathom why anyone would WANT fame

[cellsshapedlikestars]

Have you ever thought about hypothetically pairing up a Sansa from one fic with a Jon from another?

I randomly thought about how fun Across The Universe!Sansa and Bachelor Fic/Soccer Player!Jon could be together. I think if they started dating, social media would stop functioning. The Northern economy and Winterfell tourism would be booming. This would also work with Popstar!Sansa or former child star!Sansa and Take Me Out!Jon (can you tell I'm craving a Hollywood AU where they're both famous? Lmao)

In a practical sense, Help Me Out Of The Shape I'm In!Sansa and Jon from the Kidnapping fic would be great together, I feel like. He could help figure out the truth about her parents and possibly how to deal with the Lannisters and she wouldn't have all that baggage that comes with being a royal.

But if i'm thinking of what would be the most fun dynamic for ME, then its Help Me Out!Sansa and I'm on Fire!Jon. Girl whose parents were tragically murdered becomes Fake Psychic to help her figure out their death meets traumatised writer who became an escort to take care of his great uncle. She also seems a bit tougher and his life is pretty stable so they could balance each other out.

Sansa in the Cult fic is a DOer, put her in Help Me Out!/Frozen Pines/any of the thriller or mystery fics and she'll figure out whatever is going on - moms are built different, I swear.

Tinder fic!Jon and Trojan Horse!Sansa could bond over doing fucked up shit and hurting people they didn't mean to hurt while they were in college :(

That is super interesting, anon, but I have to say - I don't really think about this! Each story/each pairing is (in my mind) made for each other in that specific scenario. Across the Universe Sansa wouldn't take Bachelor Jon seriously, because she would assume he's "like all the others" and never give him a chance to prove himself. She's too jaded, and part of why she clings to AtU Jon is because he isn't famous.

I think adding kids to the mix immediately changes the dynamic. Like yeah, cult fic Sansa would have been a lot more vocal about getting the fuck out of there in Frozen Pines, because she either has the kids with her, or needs to get back to them. Although I think mother!Sansa would not have pursued her parent's death in Help Me Out, because she wouldn't put the kids at risk for her own closure/unlikely justice

I also think the different genres stop me from seeing it. Help Me Out Sansa is so jaded because it's a noir, in a way I'm on Fire Jon isn't, because it's a romcom with a heavy splash of trauma.

What I'm getting from this is that I need to write a fic where they're both famous :)

[nico-esoterica]

More about celeb sps!

"But what about the millions of other people manifesting them?" 🤔⭐

There's the perspective that they've successfully manifested them in their personal realities, but I'm an elitist. In every other reality, I believe I am the only person my man would ever want to be with, consider, or fathom as a partner. I am the best of the best. I am the only person to ever exist in his world he'd want to be with intimately. I don't care who he's been with. I'm the best lover, best romantic partner, most attractive person to exist in their world. I am always infinitely better. I am what dreams are made of. Billions of the most attractive and good men in the world would kill irl to be with me or even be in the same room with me. Women and other identities too!~

This is how you need to think. If you think anyone's manifesting them? No, they're not lol. Because they'd never do it successfully or have the confidence and conviction to maintain it. They're also not you. And they're weak bitches! I said what I said. I've never thought small in my entire life and I have unwavering confidence, self discipline, and belief in myself. I am self-obsessed and radiate power, magnetism, and sex appeal. I'm also the most beautiful person I've ever personally come across, alive or dead. In a room full of the most conventionally beautiful people, my sp would only have eyes for me. Even in an industry full of surgical beauties! Idgaf! Even if I wasn't gorgeous, my sp would still think I was! Now, let's discuss stalkers and other criminals and what makes you different:

You're always winning in your reality, even if that winning is you losing, lol. You're winning in the assumption that you can't have what you want or who you want. That's winning but just not in your favor.

Even if millions of people are casting love spells or manifesting your person, they will always fail because you've rendered them ineffective in your reality. Also, AGAIN, you are YOU! Someone can only 'take' your sp if you THINK it's possible that they can be taken! That's why you need to STAND THE FUCK UP! Would you wanna be with you? I would wanna be with me! My sp is LUCKY that I even give a fuck the way I do lmao! I also personally believe whoever you're manifesting is manifesting YOU back! That's how manifesting people works objectively if you look at stories of couples who've described how it feels on both ends.

I don't consider stalking to be something celebs want but may be what they expect due to their job and not thinking they're in control of their realities, etc. I also put obsessive fans in that category because their emotional investment makes them money lol. But as a celeb who wants to be genuinely loved as a human being, I do believe they're manifesting the right person for them and that spectrum of possibility will involve someone that's potentially a fan or was one due to the magnitude of their fame. But this person would truly love and appreciate them. That's the difference. When Hailey Bieber and Victoria Beckham were manifesting their men as fans, they wound up in healthy and happy relationships with them. Thriving, tbh.

But the typical 'fan' is usually someone with piss poor self esteem, puts their fave on a pedestal, and may think they have to force themselves on their fave to 'get them to like them' when that's just abuse and assault. That's due to poor self concept and probably due to having an unhealthy relationship with them bc of social alienation from Capitalism, untreated/misdiagnosed neurodivergence because of lack of money and access to quality healthcare, and a combination of factors where their fave is the only 'good' experience in their lives. You're always telling yourself a story. With your sp, celeb or not, it's the same thing.

These people don't believe that they can successfully 'be' with their fave without breaking the law or bypassing personal boundaries and that lack of self belief is because of bad self concept and personal self esteem. They don't think they would ever choose them without them needing to force it to happen. When you're manifesting like Hailey, Victoria, etc, you're putting yourself on the pedestal instead. You're believing that there's no way in hell that celeb sp WON'T want you for just existing. I don't know those women personally but it takes audacity and that audaciousness is a result of a strong self concept about themselves and what they're capable of. But it doesn't have to be all that.

You don't even have to like yourself to manifest a celeb sp, but most people don't tell themselves that they can just exist and the sp will find them and fall in love with them.

That's the difference between a stalker, saesang, and toxic person vs another person manifesting them. You'd think there's overlap but there's a distinct difference in mindset. You don't need to be in creepy group chats full of criminals exchanging stolen personal info or do any weird shit but people do most likely because that's the only way they think they'll get access to their sp. They're still insecure, lol.

That's why people commit crimes anyway and is the way our system is set up. They're still manifesting that fraudulent access but they rarely, if ever, land the full blown relationship where their sp wants them back. Their sp not wanting them back despite all the weird shit (bc people irl DO have relationships w/ toxic people) is proof that they DON'T think or believe this person wants them. Otherwise they'd think it was cute or something because they'd see them as the one and only exception. That rarely happens with celebs, even though I'm sure it does, but that not being the norm means those people manifesting celeb sps simply don't think they can do it deep down.

That's why you're one out of millions or a billion, honestly. Even if someone seems very confident, unless they have consistent commitment to their inner story like con artist Anna Delvey, for example, then they won't be successful.

Because that's all it takes with anything, sp or not. It's the story you're telling yourself. It doesn't have to feel real. You just need to not change it.

Like I said, the other girls are weak bitches. It just is what it is.

[mrsnancywheeler]

can’t help but wonder what daisy has to say about billy and his muse… hmm. i feel like she’d have some words about muse’s age, how young she is, and since she’s always starting fights with billy to begin with i can’t imagine it would do poor muse any good. i think daisy would feel some sort of kinship with her because of their shared experiences with absent parents and getting into bad situations with people older than them, i just don’t believe she would handle it responsibly 💀 wanting to help muse develop her own sound and come into herself musically outside of billy dunne and the rest of the band turns into holing up at daisy’s place for days on end and getting ridiculously high together. and i doubt billy would be too happy with his girl showing up completely strung out after vanishing off the face of the earth for a week either. hanging out with daisy feels good but frequently makes things worse instead of better. they’re so interesting i love thinking about them

I'm literally sat for this, I've been thinking about this since it was sent it and need to doscuss with y'all

okay so timeline wise I imagine muse met billy when they were still just the six but like after they'd gained some fame. obviously in this universe there's no camilla, I'd never hurt my girl more, and so billy is just a ticking time bomb of fame and ego and all of his dreams. and he's good but not as good as he thinks he is so when teddy has the idea to give an edge to the six by a collaboration with daisy jones he's still obviously very pissed but now muse is there too, there relationship is probably like 6 months old or so.

and daisy is changing lyrics, she brings so much energy into the studio, she's fun, and muse is young and I think instantly drawn to the magnetic field of daisy jones. kind of in awe of daisy which billy can't fathom because he's too busy being miffed about the whole ordeal. and in this version look at us now is about muse and billy, and daisy see's right through the original lyrics and her changes make muse feel more seen. so she listens to billy bitch and moan but secretly agrees.

and muse definitely pushes for daisy to be in the band, "billy's an ass, but everyone thinks you should join. he'll get over it eventually and realize."

and daisy is just open and honest about her thoughts right off the bat, "why do you stay with him? if he's an ass, then why?"

and muse is taken aback but also honest back because it feels right, "I don't want anyone else. not the way I want him."

daisy does get to join the band and with that she learns a lot more about muse and billy, more to dislike about the arrangement. muse is so young and attached, the only other person she turns to is eddie who obviously also wants to be with her, and daisy feels like any spark that muse has is quelled to play cheerleader for billy. and she respects that muse doesn't want to be a star but she tells her to write, or to talk and daisy will cultivate the ideas.

daisy definitely gets involved in a couple of fights that muse and billy have. "plenty of groupies to go around, don't need one wasting my goddamn time"

"don't fucking talk to her like that!"

"daisy-" you're trying to deescalate because you knows daisy and billy just make the fight worse.

"she's a person, a child, not something you get to call whatever you want when you're pissed off." daisy's turning to you, "c'mon let's go get some air, away from this asshole."

"you can't just walk out of rehearsal, daisy!" billy's calling after but you let daisy guide you.

"watch me!" and you and daisy are sitting outside, she's handing you some pill that you barely question before taking.

"you know, it's okay, it's just the way it is. no reason to fight more because of it."

"no, it's not okay. you know just because he's older and gives you what you crave doesn't mean you need him, right?"

you pause, "I know." you sigh, "daisy, I'm not a baby. I can take care of myself, I know what's going on."

"sure you do, chickadee." and suddenly it's like something lights within her and she's searching her pockets for a paper of napkin, "do you have something to write with?" and she ends up scribbling something you're not allowed to see on a napkin with your lipstick. eventually she makes it a song about you. and then your though and frustrations eventually become many many more songs.

and once during one of the breaks where they've got some time rather than muse spending time with billy she goes to hang out with daisy, which ends up being the whole of the break. she's with daisy, screaming out every frustration into metaphors daisy is scribbling out as they dance around to records taking every pill daisy can get hands on, lines off every surface, so many bottles completely empty. and whenever you just want to call billy or sometimes eddie, daisy totally encourages against it because, "you don't need them!" and when it's finally time to go back to the studio daisy has started to realize she handles highs terribly but better than you, who's not used to taking nearly as much as daisy does.

once they're stepping out of that taxi, billy's first words quickly form from a, "where the hell were you?" to a , "what is she on?" hands softly gripping your face, looking into her eyes, knowing you're gonna feels like crap later. and he's gonna end up nursing you out of a bender, daisy's kind of scared that you were so out of it by the end. so it creates another conflict when she's saying billy is horrible to you and billy brings up how she usually gets you too high to function.

let me know y'all's thoughts bc I'm definitely already cooking up more

[plan-d-to-i]

First of all, I want to say that I love you blog and that I'm very happy to find someone who thinks similar to me.

I was scrolling down through comments under the last chapter (which I absolutely loved, WN looked so done and WangXian was adorable as always) and found this kind of comments:

"it's sad to see JC like, wanting to reach out to WY but then LZ is there and WY is happy with LZ. JC doesn't want to ruin that. It's sorta like role reversal from their youth."

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"I'm crying for JC! It's so PaInFulL"

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"I really want JC and WWX to hug & LZ and WWX to kiss"

Uhmm, how to start? JC didn't want to ruin WWX happiness? Like he didn't kill people WWX was protecting or declared him the "enemy of the cultivation world" without WWX knowing? Like he didn't whipped WWX with Zidian at the minimum hint of MXY being WWX? Or trying to torture WWX with Fairy??

And WWX and JC to hug?? The whole reconciliation thing is getting more and more ridiculous. I know that donghua-JC is somehow (and I don't understand why) more loveable than the canon version, but wanting any JC adaptation to hug WWX after all the suffering WWX has been through for JC and the whole Jiang Family in general?

Crying for JC? Why? For him being egoistic and after building LP with the Fame and treasures WWX's participation in the war gave him for it? For him, a person who saw a child and ancient people living in terrible conditions and still let them be? He was privileged, yes he suffered but he forgot everything that made YMJ as great as it was and made it terrible, there is a reason for what no one calls Sect Leader Jiang to resolve problems in their regions.

I don't know that to think about this fandom anymore.

Ah thank you so much for the kind words! (´。• ᵕ •。`) ♡

First of all I obviously completely agree with all the above, but I can hazard a guess that many of the people that wanted jc back in Wei Wuxian's life so vehemently don't even really care about jc. They just see themselves in jc. Otherwise why would their version of jc have nothing in common with the canon character other than purple and his name. They were officially told in color that they're going to end up alone unless they Marie Kondo their personalities to spark more joy. Since they've subsisted on a diet of "fix it" fics, fanon and head canons- & apparently it's much easier to ignore the black and white words in the novel that literally have Wei Wuxian walking away with Lan Wangji without even looking back from jc and telling him he's sorry but stop trying to make YuNMeng brOs happen bc it's NOT going to happen - they're now having a bit of a moment as reality crumbles their carefully constructed fantasy land-temporarily ofc before they can justify everything away again...

They've already done all the mental gymnastics around why jc is the REaL uwu victim of finding out the person whose death he played a major role in, and who he hunted to torture and kill over 13 years had made an immense sacrifice for him...🤡.... but they still can't have their reunion. Because really, as you beautifully wrote it out, what is there to actually like about jiang cheng the character? Certainly what is there for WWX to like? So there must be another explanation bc I can't fathom that anyone can misunderstand something that badly unless it's on purpose.

[mindrole]

just a few points of interest off the top of my head

contrary to popular belief he clearly really likes ditasword, even loves, his merch is displayed all over his apartment with a lot of care, even has stickers on his rice cooker

everything in the apartment is too big for him, he's 159 cm so he's much shorter than the other fragments... his fridge in particular is fucking huge. his cabinets are really high up. in the display case he has for tableware he keeps them in the middle where he can reach, the top and bottom cubbies have dita merch in them instead of being used.

he has enough tableware for 2-3 people, but we don't know if he actually gets any guests over, but it's clear he wants to expect them. i'll get to why i think that. anyway if anyone is visiting him it's probably kadou only

since the apartment is so big, and noted to be big for a bachelor, you start to wonder "does anyone else live here...?" but no, it really is a bachelor's apartment, in the bathroom there are only one set of products and nothing miwa wouldn't use (ex. it would be weird if he had shaving products, fragments don't grow facial hair)

he keeps the movie poster with shiyo on it in his bathroom. i can't fathom why. i just cannot. it's in the toilet room that is seperated from the shower part so it probably won't get damaged by condensation or steam but that's honestly not what i am worried about or perplexed by, by any stretch of the imagination.

the hydrangea photo. in the second part of the bathroom. what is WRONG WITH HIM?!?!! why are you so obsessed with your co-star that you need to put something so cryptic to remind you of him all the time. this one is TOO much (the kanji for shiyo is 紫陽). i heard he keeps hydrangeas in his dressing room also...? this is the fragment mental illness in full force imo there is nothing normal about this

in the first com report, takashiro, miwa's co-star for YEARS across two seasons (with one season in between) addresses him very formally IN SPITE of miwa being his co-star, calling him "miwa-san". but in the same conversation, it's "shiyo-san" rather than "harada-san" so he's much more comfortable talking about shiyo on firstname-san basis. miwa talks to him pretty normally and even jokes about him being his nii-sama (what dita calls eigha). so he's pretty alienated from even the people close to him. my personal opinion is that naturally miwa is much more famous while takashiro's level of fame is closer to shiyo's. i wouldn't call miwa overfamiliar or out of pocket based on what we know, he seems to genuinely think of his costars as his friends and he has a photo of the production team in his bedroom... but the difference is really stark. especially knowing miwa is pretending to be much younger than he actually is and i don't think anyone knows except kadou maybe. let's say maybe miwa started off pretending to be the same age as dita or slightly younger (15-16) so by 2018 his fake age would be around 20-21 or so. he'd be perceived as very young!! (though reaching his expiration date in the eyes of the public, maybe... well ditasword is ending anyway...)

speaking of kadou. kadou's profile says something like about how there's leniency in their relationship since the age difference is like parent and child but... like, that's great and all, but they don't...... say which is which........ which is really funny and is absolutely on purpose. and i honest to god do not think kadou doesn't know about miwa being a little freak. i would go a step further and say i wouldn't be surprised if miwa knew marie, but there's nothing supporting that whatsoever, just my wishful headcanon. but there's something really funny about miwa potentially seeing kadou go from precocious little kid to an unmarried old coot with a bad personality who is pushing 50.

this is purely my speculation and i've said it before, but i really do think out of all of the other fragments, he's the most similar to theodore by far

honestly really lucky fukao was gracious enough to leave a picture of what miwa looks like in his public persona in the interlude, it was probably to service the "color contacts and wig in the bathroom cabinet" twist in that part of the interlude but he's so funny just from what you learn from his room alone and from the one report that i'm glad at least one deranged character has a design