#just like yeah the 'virtuousness' means people have a more comfortable time doing the wallow than the people processing less acceptable shi
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whetstonefires · 1 year ago
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okay see, i think it's very much projection, in the sense that if you write Cool Character Person as insecure--especially if you take whatever insecurities they really do have and blow them up huge and intense, so there's a lot of canon material to work with--then you can walk them through the deep pangs of the low self-esteem and also through various proofs of worth and experiences of being reassured and validated and valued.
or of gaining confidence and telling off the people who don't value them instead, if that's the place you're at.
because the aim is to thus vicariously go through that emotional arc yourself. (and offer this also to the readers.) which provides access to both catharsis and to practice letting go of negative self-thinking via your proxy.
it's in there with reparenting yourself, basically.
people project insecurity onto fanfiction characters because they want to process their own insecurities. that is what the fic in question is for. it is an artwork and it is a tool. it's doing what it's supposed to.
and i've noticed it's not just easier set-up but works much better for most people as a mental health deal to do this work in a fanfic context, especially with a character who has elements of low self-worth but doesn't wallow in them in the canon (established baseline of Cool Dude who can Handle This), than with an original character designed for the purpose, who will inevitably be defined by their function of having low self-esteem and by their connection to you. and thus be harder to commit to validating, and pull through to the sense of catharsis, and therefore less effective.
there totally is a thing where fanfiction versions of characters lose specificity and become generic, and one of the many things that drives it is that people are more willing to engage with simpler and more comfortable flaws.
but i don't think picking out self-projection of insecurity as a virtue-signalling problem is an especially accurate or useful framing of the phenomenon.
Projection is definitely part of why fanfiction authors write characters as deeply insecure (even and especially when they are not in canon), but I don't think it's the whole story.
I think it's also that insecurity is seen as a "virtuous" character flaw. Saying that your main character is "too humble" is the fiction equivalent of telling a potential employer that your greatest weakness is working too hard. It's safer and easier than approaching those ugly but more interesting character flaws like selfishness, wrath, prejudice. Ugly things that exist in all people, to some extent.
If it is projection, it's an idealized projection to only paint one's cleanest flaws into their story.
#obviously if you know this is what you're doing it doesn't work as well though#like many emotional processing tools based on Pretend#so maybe i shouldn't have said anything lmao#but i feel like this post is missing the point of projection#it's not some random behavior that just exists sui generis#it's one of the major psychological functions of having stories at all#we use them to process our shit#a mental digestion al;skfjsdk;l#like i don't think any of these sentences are wrong but the underlying moral posture is so weirdly self-righteous#why is your fanfiction self-indulgent drek rather than great literature? well you see#just like yeah the 'virtuousness' means people have a more comfortable time doing the wallow than the people processing less acceptable shi#although if you think they aren't doing wrath and prejudice in the same style you need to look harder#like what is your goal here do you think the people struggling with insecurity this hard need shaming?????#seriously what does idealized projection mean#what do you think projection is and how do you think it's supposed to work#what is the complaint#i started out just trying to clarify#but the longer i think about this post the more i'm like oh this is actually kind of a dick thing to say huh#probably op just wasn't really thinking past the observation though#is this some kind of christian If It Feels Bad It's More Virtuous gut logic?#yeah probably#the 'too humble' issue to avoid real flaws comes up more with ocs#if someone is overdoing it in fanfic it's probably because something in that interpretation speaks to their needs
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