#john and yoko were in love with their relationship in idk bill/hillary levels except they had no political reason to do it they're just

[stewy]

stewy looks like youNre having many thoughts about india, care to share?

Okay so there are many sides to this, but I'm obviously only thinking of John's because, well, duh.

1. John and Yoko

So, much has been written about how John was already in love with Yoko, and how her letters were the one thing that kept him alive in India, and how I'm So Tired is about her, yadda yadda. I'd like to propose some basic fucking common sense questions:

Let's start with

John later said he wanted to take Yoko with him but didn't because of Cynthia. Well, he took Magic Alex instead, who was incredibly possessive of John and who Cynthia was actually jealous of, even though she dismissed Yoko til the very last second. Where are their affair rumors? I mean what the fuck is this: (I'm sure Yoko fascinated John like Alex, the Maharishi and many other objects of his fixations. Her difference, and her blessing, was, to be crude, her vagina lmao)

If he was so suicidal because he was away from The Woman like he sounds on I'm So Tired... why go? Even better, why not go back to India immediately with Ringo? Or even with Paul? Then he can run right back into her arms and tell her he had some kind of epiphany but... nope, John stayed for nearly 3 weeks after Paul and Jane left, and he needed Alex convincing him (and George) that the Maharishi was a pervert and a scam so he would have an official reason to leave. Why was he avoiding England if the love of his life was right there?

Again with I'm So Tired/Yer Blues: if he was suicidal 3 weeks in, why the fuck did he stay another 5?? What? He could easily go back home and go back to drugs (which he did, the second he landed in England) and yet, we have witnesses and footage of him looking joyful and healthy around February/March... so what's the truth?

It's actually crazy to me that John spent two weeks with his childhood best friend out of his mind with LSD and other drugs, blowing off a chance with Brigitte fucking Bardot, before even thinking of calling Yoko and taking a chance on her. I believe Pete Shotton's account of the Two Virgins night is by far the most accurate btw.

2. John and Cynthia (boring failmarriage)

These two already had marriage problems for over a year now, and I'm pretty sure John was already emotionally signed out for a long time, but he felt too much of a responsibility to Cyn and Jules + the fact he physically could not be without an official partner for any significant period. That's not to say he didn't love Cyn or never loved her, but there was nothing romantic, sexual or interesting about that relationship for him. They were college sweethearts who were forced to wed, there's love, but there's not much to it (though I sound dismissive, I'm willing to discuss their relationship in depth some other time).

LOTS to unpack here, but I'll try to ask some basic questions:

In the documentary (The Beatles and India) the Ashram coordinator clarifies that John was the only Beatle with a separate room, while the others slept with their wives. Now why would John so quickly feel the need to physically detach himself from Cyn? If, by most accounts, he was looking so joyful and healthy during this period...

"He found it quite difficult with me although obviously not with someone else." NOW HERE'S A GOLDEN QUOTE! You could take this at face value and assume Cyn is talking about Yoko (which she most likely was tbh), but for this to be in the same sentence she talks about India and apparently before Two Virgins... also I already mentioned John blew a chance with Brigitte fucking Bardot because he was high out of his mind, and yet he was healthy and mostly drug-free (for the first and probably only time in his life!). Am I supposed to suspend belief and assume someone with John's sex drive was not fucking anyone for two months (more, if you assume he didn't fuck anyone when he came back to England, which I do), locked away in his room thinking about a woman he didn't even truly want yet? lmao

Now a couple others to unpack:

"OF COURSE PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO EXPERIMENT" PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIMENTS WITH THE CLASS JOHN LENNON

also not her with "I never dreamed that he had been unfaithful to me" girl, please lmao I know you can't possibly this dumb

"due to have stayed another two weeks" so, assuming the reason didn't go back earlier to England to stay with The Woman of his Life was his devotion to the program and meditation, why not finish the course when you already stayed two months? Sure, Alex gave him a palpable reason to return but idk, you believe what you will on this one. I'm sure the last few weeks were the period he wrote I'm So Tired/Yer Blues though.

3. John and Paul

(I think they deserve a post of their own tbh, and it's impossible to dissociate the India trip from the NYC trip so... )

Overall, I think we've been sold a narrative. Nothing wrong with it, it's easier to digest and all, but if you want to get into what really happened, it's time to start asking different questions.