#jk i wasnt fully aware of it back then

[chevelleneech]

So, this ask has been in making for quite some time and i assure you absolutely unrelate d to your recent post about km timeline, i started this ask way before that after ep5, but i feind you quite reasonable and civil so I am going to list down a few reasonable/plausible reasons of why there are certain discrepancies in the whole jikook narrative which sort of is overlooked or brushed over which sort of discredits the whole thing and, lets try to have a reasonable discussion rather than giving opinions on my(anon's) dumbness or whatever.

the recent bed softness/mattress talk in EPS 5, if they were partners (hell, even as friends/dormmates) and JK has all of them over all the time, seems like a preference that JM, as a partner, should know about. and yes, it was talked in a way that JK was letting him know his preference as a reason; otherwise, I would have said oh, that's too soft/hard.

jms depression talk in 2022 in the docu scenes/ that came out after the concert etc, is jk was not aware of anything his supposed bad mental state, his sleeping schedule, oh but jm's friend knew and helped him and he recognized it but it was all being made aware to jk as a friend and that was when they werent really doing any solo stuff. I mean, it's clear they didn't live together, but this is something that I would have thought jk would know, and don't come at me with the jm hides his thoughts. They all do, I would suppose it would be a bit diff for a SO.

jk asking to bring his stuff to jm in that vlive in morning so its good to assume they dont have stuff at eo's places + in April 2023 jk did not know any of face schedule and seeing it for the first time on a tv, when he was actually quite free through early jan/feb/sort of mar too. In the SMF pt 2 trailer, even Tae knew; suga also knew his schedule, but aside from that, he was even confused about the last day of jm's music show.

literally the first comments jm did on jk's live was followed by jm saying take care or how ar eyou something was clearly seperate and miles away from eo atleast for the past two years. whereas tae and jk were clearly closer with jk saying what are you doing here to tae as in they were doing soemthing before/playing as also confirmed in tae's vlive in feb was it? which was not rude but just continuing convo.

the infamous vlive of jk watching jm's content wasnt because of he missed him like people romantically state but because he was def. not up to date on his band member who is supposedly his couple but was catching up on his content bc he did not know when things were airing or when his schedules were or even talking to eo.

i have more which i do not recall fully at the moment (have sent asks about them in past and each time by each person its answered by a simple no or not possible w/o any reasoning (prob bc yall dont have it yourself) but i will def come back and point out if needed)

so talking about knwoing eo fav spices which is obv if jk and jm lived in a dorm for 10 years should know about,hell they know taht about suga as well, tae as well etc. is not a very proof of thier relationship infact its all these small unnoticable or brushed over things which show such discrepancies and holes in the whole narrative which should make a person think again and be reasonable. there are a few blogs, not yours (hence why I even came here, but you , akookminsupporter etc, are a few blogs that are actually reasonable) that pull such weird ass thoughts as if they know what km are thinking, it's surprising and concerning. all these points are no compare but to point fallacies which appear to exist if they are, in fact, dating. the recent mattress talk is what made me even more aware and why I thought I should try to have a civil discussion/ask about it.

Here’s my thing, I feel like all of these concerns and questions have been discussed at length many times over, so there is no answer I can give you, one you deem reasonable or otherwise, that will satisfy your curiosity.

The only reason I would imagine they talk about certain things the way they do, is because they either don’t already know the answers or they’re bullshitting for the cameras. The members have known each other for over a decade, as you’ve said. Jimin and Jungkook shared bed many times in their early years, and we know again, that Jungkook used to hang out in Jimin’s hotel rooms all the time. So in regard to your first question, isn’t it reasonable to assume he already knew JK wasn’t a fan of too soft mattresses?

They’ve shared a mattress so many times, that the idea of it having never ever been brought up until that day in Jeju simply does not seem likely. It makes more sense that he, for whatever reason, just didn’t want that particular bed. Could it be he just didn’t want to swap? Sure. Could it be the mattress really was too soft? Sure, either way, I don’t know. I also don’t know why he’d present his reasoning to Jimin the way he did, aside from: a) reiterating info people already know about you is normal or b) JM truly didn’t know and he was telling him. Either way, it doesn’t change what I think is likely going on between them.

2-4 are things neither of us know the full extent of. They don’t owe us 100% full transparency on what they’ve talked about together. We don’t have to know how much of Jimin’s struggles he shared with Jungkook, because we don’t know what their relationship status is outside of assuming they like each other and prefer being around one another. Personal struggles and whom Jimin decided to let in, is not our business, and whether or not he was open and honest with his potential partner falls into things we don’t need to know. If not knowing whether or not JK knew all of it tells you they aren’t together, so be-it. You don’t have to believe anything you don’t want to believe, if your experience and understanding of the world tells you not to.

I already said enough about 5. I already said I believe them saying they weren’t that much in touch during 2023, but it’s not an objective fact that JK was watching Jimin’s content because he wasn’t caught up. Same way it’s not an objective fact that he was doing it because he’s in love with him. It’s all subjective, as there were times where he said he didn’t watch something, then other times when he’s quoting Jimin before he even speaks, proving he did indeed watch the content. So perhaps he simply just missed him. As a friend or as something more is your choice to decide.

Basically, unless either of them reveal partners they’ve been with during these later years, the answers any of us want will likely never ever be given. At least not until it’s 2053, and one of them writes a tell-all. So you can think they’re dating, best friends, or just good coworker friends, but you can’t ask questions to strangers online in attempt to have them hash out the reasons behind something they don’t have the full details of.

I personally think Jimin and Jungkook have something going on. You don’t, and that’s perfectly fine.

[hxseok-honee]

I mean JK isn't wrong. He's doing it because he's in his feelings, but honestly even if I was besties with Yoongi I would probably have doubts about how this could end because Yoongi is a whore and nothing is wrong with that, but never seeing a man settle with anyone would make it hard to see if he would do it this time 🤷🏾‍♀️.

Also (I know, I know the story wouldn't be as dramatic and wouldn't be as long if not for all this) YN could have talked to him after the first misstep. I feel like if either of their dumbasses (YN and JK) would have sat to have an actual conversation JK wouldn't be as fucking unbearable. Especially since she wanted to go back to being the best of friends, why not fully sit down and get things out in the open to properly move forward.

ooohhhh okay wait i love this i love talking about this okay lemme put it under the cut bc this is long--

so jk technically wouldnt be wrong if he wasnt talking about yoonyn. thats the big thing there -- yoongi has already shown that hes a no strings attached guy with no guilt about just hooking up and moving on. and pretty much everyone he hooks up with knows this about him so its not like theyre expecting anything of him

the issue is that it IS yn. so not only would yoongi never do that to her bc shes special, yn KNOWS he would never do that to her. their friendship is like,,, the platonic soulmates thing, right. they always know what the other persons thinking and where their hearts are at, all the time. so even though yoongi is Big Dumb and didnt talk to her about the fake dating thing, yn was never really mad about it bc she knows what yoongi had been trying to do -- that he'd wanted to help. yoongi never once really has thought of the arrangement in a selfish way -- even when hes being gross and saying stuff like we should makeout and have practice sessions and fake complaining about not being able to touch her, hes genuinely not making any of it about him if that makes sense? hes kind of innocently gross LOL he sees it the same way she sees it. its like a fun inside joke for them and they wanna do it right

tbh yns also not at the point where shes even thinking 'how could this end well for me if yoongis never settled' bc she isnt aware of her feelings at all and neither is yoongi, this is all still just an act for them. but even when they do get there, yoongis never gonna show any signs of NOT committing to yn bc shes literally the only person in the world that COULD make him commit. he lowkey already is awefwe

also yn definitely could have better explained things to jk but even with what she did say in those first convos between them, its kind of clear that jk wouldnt have listened. i mean, he didnt listen when she said no and she said no like 50 times. and she dated this guy for 2 years so its kinda like she already knows hes not gonna hear what shes saying and that its a waste of her time

and thats why theyre so messy!!!