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ofaither · 2 years ago

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୨୧˚♡* ♱ portrayal notes and headcanons. taken from this interview.

interviewer: have to say, i have the complete opposite reaction, glenn, when i saw laura lee. i felt peace there's something about her character that just brings me this everything's gonna be okay, even when we know it's not gonna be okay at all, i just see her face and i'm like "oh, it's okay, laura lee's here everything's gonna be fine" so i saw her and i was like, what a better way for jackie to enter the afterlife than with laura lee welcoming her.

widdop: getting involved in the show we shot december 2019 and i was actually the only one that was the age of the girls at that time because i was 17. yeah and now i'm 19. but that was that was super trippy because i was the only one that that i was that age.

interviewer: so how was it portraying a character of such devoted faith widdop: well for me, i grew up christian. i grew up in the episcopal church which is a church that is very accepting, we love anyone and everyone. i think reading when i was little there's, like, a little message going into the church and it's like gay, straight, they/them, she/her, homeless, house, whatever. you're welcome here. so that's kind of always the relationship i've had with christianity. which i know is very different from a lot of people's and especially a lot of queer people. so i just took it with that and my mom works at a church, actually, so i've always kind of had that relationship really close to it, even though i'm not christian. but i think having that really helped me understand that laura lee was not this... she's not trying to hate on anybody, you know what i mean? like she's very much like 'i've read the bible, i know that jesus loves everyone, so i'm going to love everyone as well.' but i think the thing with laura lee that i kind of learned throughout the season and especially with episode 8 and with the help of our director arielle kleinman, we walked through it and because the original, you know, when she has that accident where she hits her head and she's revived, that's a very taboo thing that's happening. she's having mouth to mouth, like, at 13 and it just in that environment, in such a christian camp like that's really, really taboo. um, and so i have always found my faith and things where normal people kind of might not see it in that way so because i really like wicca and a bunch of the occult stuff. so i took that and i just made it christian, i kind of made it my own. and she looks at these really taboo things like the plane that almost killed jackie and she thinks 'no that's a sign from god and even though it was a scary, like, almost life or death experience, i've had that before and that's how i connected to god, so i need to do this in order to fulfill my purpose' so that's kind of the headspace that i went into.

interviewer: but i think another question that a bunch of people were having was when she dives into that pool when she's 13, like why is she diving into the shallow end? like what's going on in her head?

widdop: we kind of came up with this idea that, even when she was younger, all throughout her life she's had these kind of terrible ideas but she kind of goes into this, like, fugue state where she doesn't know what she's doing and she just ends up almost dying. you know what i mean? so i think it's- she has these almost not, like, street smart moves, that's what i would call it. and i think i'm very similar in that way because i just have some like moments where i'm like, that would be such a stupid decision if i made that, but it's not like terrible things. like i'm thinking about me making candles because i have a candle obsession and so i froze my candles, and i had a laura lee moment where i was like, you know, what if i used like perfume, like, my extra perfume in my kit? and i was like, no, jane, that would make a bomb, that's alcohol that you're putting fire to. but i just have these moments sometimes and they're just such larly moments, so that's what i've started calling them. i love them because i love laura lee but the second you suggested the plane thing, i'm sitting here watching the episode like, this is a bad idea, why is nobody stopping her? which, coach ben, bless his heart, he tried, i know, but she has these ideas that are like, you almost can't stop her. that's another thing i feel like with people with faith is it's so strong that anything that you say to them is not gonna change their faith and what they've been through. and i think that in laura lee's head she really did believe that she survived the pool and all of that in order to save them later, right, she has a bigger purpose.

interviewer: so with the pool, coming back, because we debated that on this podcast, talking about- was that misjudging the depth? was there something intentional? so do you see it as almost more that she has these intrusive thoughts that she almost acts on the impulse?

widdop: very much acting on impulse, not thinking through things and that's kind of why we wanted to show her in the beginning like that, so that it would make sense for more people to understand that that's where she's coming from. but she has these moments of just- i mean, they're they're a bunch of teenagers right they have moments of immaturity and i think that that's a big one for her. she's innocent, she's sweet, she's kind, she's loving but she can be a bit immature and not in the ways that the other girls are. like, in doomcoming, you know, what i mean like that type but she's not that type of immature, she's the type of immature that will go fly a plane because she thinks she can do that.

interviewer: one thing i love about this series is that faith based characters are usually comic relief, almost. they're very one note and i love how laura lee's faith guides her and plays a very important role in the series. i'm curious to know your thoughts because so for me, i mean, i feel very much the nostalgia factor with this show and even though i was not raised in the christian faith and christian culture, there was a real christian culture youth movement that was like cool in the mid 90s when you had like dc talk and jars of clay. what kind of research did you do into what a christian teenager would have been into at that time? widdop: i kind of just asked my sister, who grew up in the 90s. she was very much a natalie, that's what i would call her, like, blaring the smashing pumpkins in her pickup truck with the windows rolled down, you know. but i used her and i leaned on her a lot, because i wanted somebody that had an experience in the 90s that went to high school during this time and was very first-hand. so she had a friend of hers that was a very devout christian, so i kind of just took some of that information. and then i used a lot of my mom's like growing up because my mom grew up very baptist and so picking apart the layers that didn't identify with larli's christianity, you know what i mean? i tried to kind of combine a bunch of different values ... but, yeah, i definitely did a lot of research into just, like, what activities she would like to do you know what i mean or what her youth group would do on the weekends in new jersey, you know what i mean? like, stuff like that.

widdop: i think the other thing with laura lee is she does get invited to that party, at the beginning, you know? i think she has two sets of these friends. she has her really christian group and then her soccer team that she really shouldn't be a part of, but somehow she is and they invite her everywhere even though they don't tell her anything. and i just kind of love that dynamic because i feel like everybody in high school kind of had one of those people, i feel like i was that person. i was always like 'wait what's going on what are we talking about' and they're like 'okay you know what we'll tell you later' i was like 'hey sure'

widdop: i think you can look at it and see one note, but for me i didn't. i just i saw a girl that wants to be accepted but wants people to accept her for who she is and isn't going to change for that, and i really appreciated that. and that's why i feel like sometimes laura lee and i are so different, because sometimes i can be the one that's like 'i will, actually, i will change if you want. you know, sure i'll wear this instead of this' and she's not gonna do that she's very headstrong and gonna wear what she wants. even her sweaters and her flowery shirts and dresses in the middle of the woods, you know, she makes it work, she does.

widdop: i just i played a character before on a pilot that didn't get picked up by pete berg called bloodline, and my character's name was bird. and so i've kind of always connected with birds and had that, and then of course with laura lee, when, you know, she connects with other birds.

interviewer: now that i'm thinking about it, i'm a little bummed we didn't get to see laura lee on shrooms, when leonard started talking to her. i think that would have been a moment. widdop: i know, i feel like she would have like seen the skies open up and been like, oh my god, jesus is walking down towards me, that would have been really funny. i would have loved to play laura lee on shrooms.

interviewer: oh my god, in f sharp, just the when you drop the piano teacher's- i mean that was that was my favorite laura lee moment. that was perfect because of course you think that it was going to be something subtle that laura lee would think was a bad word but really wasn't that bad and we're just like 'whoa okay, yeah, yeah we're going there'. it goes to show you the two dimensions that you just said laura lee has, same as getting invited to the part.y you think she's the sweet innocent girl but there is a different side of her and that, right there, showed it i was not expecting her to come up. it was amazing, also i just find it so funny.

widdop: technically, she did die in a plane crash. they just extended her stay, you know, just for a little bit. had to get close to lottie. interviewer: yeah, and i was gonna say how was it working with courtney eaton? given that the journey between laura lee and lottie was so powerful. widdop: i love courtney, i think she is such a phenomenal actress, she made it so easy to play off of her. but i think that their moments are really, really special because, like i said, larley finds god's faith in really taboo things and that's lottie, you know, that's how they connect and we kind of didn't really get into this backstory, but i don't think that they've had a lot of connection before the plane crash. i think that this is really the one thing that brings them together and then obviously probably lottie's downfall when i die as well. i love the highs and the lows of their storyline and i also really like how they have had very similar near-death experiences. so when i hit my head in that thing, like when i'm younger lottie also had that car crash but she also had the same experience that i had when i was 13 when i baptized her and i think that that was that's such a cool parallel between the two. and i really do think that their story lines mesh perfectly together, i wasn't expecting that to happen that relationship to take place and it was really funny to me because after people saw the pilot they were like 'oh lottie and laura lee lottie lee' i was like 'how did you guys see this i didn't even see this when we filmed the pilot, what' so that was that was pretty funny to me. i loved that people were able to catch on i was like 'i didn't'. there's so many similarities the bible also had a very strong impact on lottie just in a different way.

widdop: i definitely think if laura lee had taken off and there had been a radio, she would have been able to reach somebody and could have at least let them know. even if she still did die, but i definitely think if there was an option for that in there she would have done that. i mean, she's immature, but she's smart.

interviewer: so i have to say, at the end of that journey, morally being seen as the most of the straight-laced characters who would respect authority, her standing up to coach ben is just- how was it playing such a pivotal moment of strength for that character? widdop: i loved thatm and that is all thanks to our brilliant director because the 'what are you going to do to stop me, coach?' line is really was really jackie's line, and our director was like 'no, laura lee needs this line' because this is her final 'i'm standing up to you moment'. so i was really, really happy that i got that line and that i could kind of play that moment. that was really fun, i've seen videos and clips of it because i didn't know how it's going to turn out but that little step forward that i did, was a big decision for me at the moment i was like 'should i step forward? should i not step forward? should i just stay here? how does this- what i do?' it was a very big moment for me but i really liked the way that it turned out in that whole monologue, especially my favorite thing of that entire scene is when she's like 'excuse me' she's really quiet at the beginning and then she's like 'no' it's so funny to me like just from zero to 100 real quick. which is what i love about her, that's very her she's very gung-ho, very 'i'm gonna take care of things'.

interviewer: i don't know if you know this information but what sign do you think laura lee is?

widdop: i've thought about this, being my astrology nerd self that i am. i definitely think that she is a cancer sun, i think she's very, very loving, very kind but also kind of doesn't think things through. then i would say aquarius rising or moon and then there's one aries placement in that big three, but i never know where to put it. i think that the aries comes in with that strong-headedness. but also it's so close to taurus, i think it's an aries-taurus type of situation, because she has that stubbornness, she has a lot of fire in that. i see her as this fiery water sign with just the tiniest sprinkle of air added in.

widdop: i think that there's also a couple other characters that- i would identify -that have aries in their big three. so, i think that's how her relationships kind of develop. but i also definitely think lottie is a pisces, and that's why- the pisces and cancer, you know, hanging out.

interviewer: well so courtney ian mentioned in an interview that her internal motivation in singing kiss from a rose, when she was preparing for the scene, was telling herself that that was laura lee's favorite song. is that in your head canon now, as well? widdop: it definitely wasn't before, but as soon as i heard the song on doomcoming, i was like 'yeah, this is definitely a laura lee song. this is what she would listen to' i added it to my wireless playlist that i made. i was thinking about putting girl on fire but i was like 'that's a little bit too hard' .

interviewer: it's just amazing how the shit went down when laura lee wasn't there to be a compass and guide for the group, and for lottie to keep her in charge.

widdop: yes, and i think that's definitely why laura lee had to go, you know, there has to be that moment of 'oh, stuff's gonna happen, there's no moral compass anymore, it's gone off the rails' but i also just really like how her death was such a hero thing, and i think that that's why it really only affects lottie the most, because she felt like she could have done the most. but everybody else that- you know -we've been on a team together, we played soccer for years, everybody else knew my head strong qualities, they knew they weren't gonna be able to stop me. but i think lottie was like- that's why it affected her so much because she knew she would have been one of the only people to stop me and she didn't do anything.

widdop: i will forever love her. that was one of the best parties i think i've ever had. it was 2019, so, you know, better time, and it was like the last halloween party i had i do before pandemic. i did a halloween party with my one of my best friends and she was my roommate for a little bit, mila and we went to high school together and our first party that we did, because we were kind of like the weird kids in high school that didn't really party like we wanted like our version of partying was doing crafts. so we had a disney themed halloween party and made felt mickey mouses, decorated cookies, made a magic mirror to take pictures in front of, we did not make jello shots with alcohol in them, no, we made the alien jello shots from toy story. yeah, no alcohol to be found. here's a laura lee moment, i was like, 'you know, the easiest way to heat this up is just to put the pyrex glass mixing bowl on the stove.' it's not insane, that used to be possible before they changed the formula, it's true. i thought that i was right in this and then it exploded so i really did not have a lot of jello that night. thank god there wasn't any alcohol in it, or else that would have been an even worse mess that would have smelled so bad.

#literally just quotes from the interview KHBSJC #† headcannons ˛ ‘ and i will dwell on this earth forevermore.#† study ˛ ‘ from my rotting body flowers shall grow.

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lais-a-ramos · 11 days ago

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#sorry to jump in but YES

no need to apologize, your addition is perfect!!!!!

in my meta, i tried focusing more on why the show isn't doing a #girlboss thing and it makes no sense to treat laura lee or any other character as a "villain" in case they felt conflicted and stuff 😅

but i wanna say that i loved your addition and i agree 100% with everything you said

especially this part:

"i can't see the laura lee that dies in s1 participating in a hunt, or letting javi drown. but, like op said, a lot happens to them during winter that changes people. a laura lee that ate jackie, that helped shauna through agonising hours of labor only to lose the baby, that aimlessly searched for crystals body, that watched shauna nearly beat lottie to death, that is watching her loved ones slowly starve to death? that would be a very different laura lee. not to mention the glimpse we get of her inner steel - it is laura lee that strips coach ben of his power before her flight. "

you really had surgical precision on this one.

i'm usually the first one to complain about mischaracterization and stuff, but the thing is that the characters who survived in 90s timeline up until season 2 have gone thru all of these traumatic events and have changed because of them, and it makes no sense to affirm that laura lee couldn't change as well

same goes for jackie, who is also someone i've seen being thrown around in these discussions as well

the, let's say, secret for writing metas or headcanons or fics about these characters who died earlier in the show to try to identify their main internal issues and dilemmas and try to build upon that, imagining plausible ways for them to react to these changes based on said internal issues

and the truth is laura lee already had many issues way before the 2025 flight plane crash, including issues about her faith

that's something we can see in her flashback on episode 1x08, "flight of the bumblebee"

she is shown in pool scene with an apathetic and detached look in her face before she jumps in the shallow side of the pool, indicating that she did that on purpose to try to take her own life or as another form of self-harm to feel something

not only that, but she seemed very misplaced amongst all those happy kids, indicating that, inspite loving her faith and Christ, she felt disconnected from the people at church

those scenes on episode 1x08 serve to show the audience why laura lee was so certain that flying the cessna and saving her friends was her purpose, bc it's relatively common for ppl who escaped death to search for a reason why they survived

so, really, if she survived the cessna plane crash or didn't fly for any reason, and ended up going thru all the stuff that happened post-1x08, there's no reason to believe that laura lee wouldn't change as a person

she's a human too, and no human would come out of these things unchanged

also, as jane widdop has said in the interview i always cite as THE laura lee interview, the one for the yellowjackets buzz podcast, laura lee is also very impulsive

so, really, that is a perfect storm for a faith crisis of sorts, which could have many different consequences, especially those that you mentioned above

the problem is that this fandom has a tendency to flanderize the characters, to pick just 1 or 2 traits and make these traits the characters' entire personalities

and, specifically about laura lee, there's also another thing, something that deserves its own post because there's so much to unpack here: the way people tend to treat laura lee as if she wasn't a 17-18 year-old girl like the others just because she is a devout Christian, which is very sexist, since it underestimates her based on stereotypes

so, ppl end up not seeing how complex she is as a character and the potential for all the things that could have been explored in the show if laura lee didn't die in season 1

since the whole discourse on whether laura lee would engage in cannibalism and stuff was brought back again, here's my two cents ig

listen, i understand thar ppl have different interpretations and that is a consequence of art reaching out to different people and different audiences

and there are definitely many heads to analyze in this discussion, like psychological aspects as how laura lee's suicidality in pool scene was a fuel for her religious fervor and the need for a purpose and how this could develop in the wilderness had she survived

but now i wanna talk specifically about how ppl seem to see lottie and, by extension, the other girls, when they bring out this argument to affirm that laura lee wouldn't engage in the cannibalism

it's definetely a bit bizarre that ppl talk about the topic, especially when it's about laura lee and lottie, as if lottie herself was #1 enthusiast of ritual cannibalism right from the start

many ppl seem to straight up forget that lottie was absolutely horrified when she found out via misty that the others killed javi and that they started a hunt in her name which resulted in said killing

(actually, that's probably one of the main reasons why she passed the "crown" to nat, bc she thought nat's moral integrity would be able to keep the others in check -- tho, it's safe to say based on pit girl scene that this idea didn't work at all)

there is a huge difference between the teen lottie who was horrified with the circumstances of javi's death and the one who participated in the pit girl feast, as much as there is a huge difference between that brutal lottie and adult lottie

this show is all about the proccess, the ways in which these girls made those choices

so, as by the end of season 2, we can't say that lottie has reached the point of pit girl scene yet, even if she did commit an atrocity at doomcoming along with the other girls -- the sexual assault and attempt to murder travis

what is more concearning tho, i guess, is ppl framing the brutality of the girls as if it was only a positive thing, and if laura lee or jackie or any other felt conflicted feelings about those things then it means they would be in the wrong

listen, i'm the first one to defend the idea that the wilderness allows these people to set themselves free from social conventions and that includes social structures like racism or LGBTQ-phobia or misogyny

but, again, what ppl miss is that one key word: NUANCE

the showrunners have mentioned a few times, including on that vulture fest panel last year, that the wilderness is some type of double-edged sword, it brings that freedom but also cost these characters a lot

and when ppl act as if doomcoming or other of these moments as purely some "girl power" type of moment, they are missing the entire point of the show

the show isn't trying to be a girlboss moment or witchy, especially bc, if so, then that would be sort of very disrespectful towards actual real life practitioners of Wiccanism and Neopagan religions by associating them with something that might be evil or, in the case of the supernatural not being real in the show, dismissing it as insanity

what yellowjackets is trying to do with that fictional belief system that has no correspondence in the real world is a discussion that crosses different fields like anthropology, philosophy, history, psychology etc, which is trying to understand how faith and belief work

and what makes this show able to attract ppl as different as practicing Christians, Jewish ppl, agnostics, atheists, Neopagans etc is that it never treats ppl as foolish for being believers or non-believers, these characters are just treated as complex human beings dealing with extreme survival circumstances and just trying to navigate life

another important point the show is trying to make is about the violence

bc there is this long discussion, which in Western civilization we can trace back to the 16th century philosophers and perhaps even further, on whether the human nature is purely violent or not, and that is something that's become a theme in the very same intellectual fields i mentioned above -- anthropology, philosophy, history, psychology etc

the most famous example, especially when we consider these survival stories or any story that turns "lord of the flies" in a trope, is 17th century english philosopher thomas hobbes with his idea that, roughly summarized, human beings were so leveled in the state before the creation of organized societies and governments etc (a state that is called "state-of-nature" in the philosophy studies) that they could never be free of the fear that other would do them harm and, since everyone had the right to everything and resources were scarce, people lived in a scenario of perpetual war against each other.

this state of perpetual war could only be stopped by the creation of civil society and the idea that the social contract was unquestionable.

this idea could apply to different social organizations, but hobbes' role model described in his most famous work, leviathan, was basically absolutism/absolute monarchy, which is very authoritarian

now, i know all of this is too academic and ppl who read this might ask what is the point, but, please, bear with me

what makes all of this be relevant is that, even if you're not familiar with this type of academic stuff, you've probably have seen movies, fictional books, tv shows etc that have some variation of the idea that human beings are naturally violent and even evil

it's actually very common in stories that try to portray gray morality in a way

but this is not what yellowjackets does

yellowjackets doesn't treat these characters as naturally violent and evil

on the other hand, it also doesn't treat these characters as naturally good either (something that also comes from philosofical discussions, except that this time it comes from the myth of the noble savage, which french philosopher jean jacques rousseau was wrongly accused of perpetrating when his work was actually just stating an earlier version of the idea that inequality in economy and education was the source of social issues)

what yellowjackets does is actually make us question these assumptions we have about Good and Evil, and show that we human beings are not naturally one thing or another, but that our choices in certain situations can tend to one or the other

most of all, yellowjackets doesn't give us easy answers or stereotypes, it just invites us to think about what it means to be human by showing the good, the bad, the ugly etc in human experience, with most of the characters having all of these things inside them at the same time

so, because yellowjackets isn't a Good vs Evil type of story, it makes no sense for ppl to act as if laura lee, or jackie by the way, would be an antagonist to lottie or the other girls, let alone treat being an antagonist as something positive in a fight against evil, or, which seems more common, something negative as an obstacle to #girlpower

yellowjackets is a show about people in a very desperate situation making desperate decisions with tragic consequences

and it's because laura lee is a human being, and all of us human beings can end up feeling desperate, that having her joining wilderness cult is not something absurd, implausible or out of character

it's a bit of a disservice to act as if lottie is all monstruous and manipulative when all the characters are morally gray and we have yet to see all of them truly embrace brutality as a method

it's also a disservice to the work that the writers and also courtney eaton and simone kessell put to make lottie such a complex and compelling individual, someone that we sympathize with even when we can't support all her actions

and, perhaps, even a bit racist and psychophobic for ppl to assume that lottie is all violence when she, just like her white counterparts, is a morally gray and complex individual

the same way that making lottie a helpless victim is bad bc it strips her from her agency

as my favorite lottie article, "yellowjackets: the unknown through lottie and the use of static" on the latina media website, says, lottie is "a complicated character in the static"

and it's a bit patronizing and sexist to reduce laura lee to her religion and treat her as helpless when compared to the girls her age just bc she is Christian, the same way that it is to idealize her and put her on some pedestal for the same reason

it's also a disservice to the hard work that the writing team and jane widdop have put into making laura lee be more than just a Christian girl stereotype and feel like a fully fleshed individual

anyways, this is a topic that we can discuss for days and days bc, while no show is perfect and flawless, yellowjackets is so well-written and the actors are so amazing that we can analyze it over and over again and always find new stuff to talk about

but the point is that we can't really begin to understand this show and these characters if we only focus on stereotypes and judge a book by its cover

#yellowjackets #laura lee #lottielee #laura lee yellowjackets #character meta

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cordeliaflyte · 3 years ago

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Thoughts about Yellowjackets 🐝:

- Shauna and Jackie had a toxic codependent relationship. I always sensed some homoerotic vibe from them though. I honestly even thought Shauna was in love with Jackie until the scene where she fucked Jeff. Lmao. 😂 Even after that, always thought there’s something gay brewing in there. 😂 Ella Purnell even thought so because she said in an interview that she loves how she and Sophie Nélisse gave off gay vibes. 😂

- Lottie and Laura Lee also gave off homoerotic vibes. That ship sunk before it can sail though. RIP. 😂 But seriously, the potential for drama between them. Laura Lee is ultra religious so the internalized homophobia would be so bad. Lottie is off her meds and mentally ill and then you add some gay awakening? Chaos. 😂 Anyway, Jane Widdop said in an interview that they don’t think Laura Lee was a homophohe because they were asked if Laura Lee would have judged Van and Taissa when they came out if Laura Lee was still alive. Queen behavior. Wasn’t even aware Jane is nonbinary and grew up catholic so I’m guessing they related it to Laura Lee in an extent.

- Travis and Natalie are so toxic from the get go. I was never really that interested with them together though. I find them boring. Kevin Alves and Sophie Thatcher don’t have much chemistry together. In fact, Kevin had more chemistry with Ella.

- Misty Quigley is the champ. Definitely my fave. I love them psycho. 🤗 Kind of a bummer that we didn’t see her potential friendship with Jackie to blossom. Jackie, unfortunately, became a popsicle before it can happen. RIP. 😔 Misty also seems to have a soft spot for Natalie in particular in the present day so I’m curious what brought that on considering they didn’t have much interaction in the wilderness so far.

🐝 buzz buzz buzz 🐝

Actually if you think about it Shauna fucked Jeff because she was in love with Jackie. Like if you can't fuck someone the closest way to get to it is fucking someone they fucked. I fully believe Shauna still loves Jackie more than she loves Jeff after all these years.

I know it's a popular theory but I personally don't see Lottie/Laura Lee. Laura Lee was an anchor to this simple black and white morality that kept her worldview safe in her All-American home, and I think she realised it wasn't tenable in the wilderness, but still tried to cling on the rules she was always taught would apply even if her reality was shattered.

I feel like there's a stark difference between her and Lottie in that they both feel isolated, but Laura Lee doesn't push her religion - reminiscent of their old environment, but historically relatively new (evangelicalism) on others too forcefully, but will accept potential converts - like Lottie - when they come to her (which is very at odds with evangelicalism but oh well).

Lottie, who has been isolated, seeks glory for herself through the conduit of a religion that is starkly new to all the characters, but is implied to be, in some ways "primordial" - this is something that has been brewing here for a long time, a Venus flytrap that has enticed its victims since at least the old French Canadian guy.

I wonder whether they'll explore the colonial implications - like, I sincerely hope they don't go "oh yeah wacky indigenous religion". I think it's interesting that when Lottie gets possessed, she speaks the words about spilling blood in French - the language of the (implicitly colonial) dead guy in the cabin.

I wasn't really invested in Natalie/Travis because umm in the nicest way the men in this show do not matter very much. Travis will be the lost Lenore motivating Natalie and I'm fine with that.

I think they're anchors to each other because (so far) they're some of the very few people who haven't succumbed to Lottie's influence, and Travis was explicitly made a victim of their new culty ways. I want to know who killed him and especially what Nat was right about. Like couldn't you have been less shadowy in your cryptic note... Also since men don't matter they are DEFINITELY killing coach next since he's another "anchor" to the old world

Misty is great I love her ❣️ full disclosure before watching the TV show and based on gif sets on here I thought they were in love. I have not abandoned the idea of Misty being in love with Natalie yet. There's so much I want to know about Misty... I don't think she's invested in the cult anymore. But I do think she could be a serial killer. Just for a laff

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#answered #yellowjackets

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