#it's just that the author of my source really just kinda. didn't explore my culture all that much

[ablednt]

Can't come over today I'm busy psychoanalyzing societies that don't actually exist, yeah tomorrow too, sorry

[admirableadmiranda]

my first fandom experience is with MXTX but i'm kinda confused as to why fandom spaces tend to convoluted their version of canon with actual canon as if the canon written by the author is false. fanfiction is transformative content since it explores and expands canon. it's been bugging me because i really dislike OOC depictions lmao it has no effect on me but ive been disliked by an irl friend for shipping wangxian because chengxisn is obviously what was supposed to be written since (1/?)

(2/?) since apparently jc is so fuckable but it's a pity it wasn't. i just thought of @jiangwanyinscatmom but still,,,, it just bugs me because i feel like my current interactions with fandom or stan culture has put me in this mindset where i care more about what others are doing with their toys (I.e. characters) but still,,, i guess these interactions leave a bitter taste. it feels so whack to me that people think mxtx deliberately didn't put their ship as if wwx or lwj would ever choose anyone

I don't know if there was more to your ask, anon, this is where it cut off! Anyway it seems like you had some frustrations to get off your chest and I hoped this helped. I do question your friend's take on how apparently Chengxian was supposed to be the endgame pairing, but then I've learned after a whole year here that some things simply can't be explained.

To answer your questions about fandom and attitudes, I've been in fandom for fifteen years now and I've gone through really caring and really not caring and I've pinned it down to it really depends on the source material. The tighter the source material and the more dynamic the characters, the more annoyed I am when fanworks deviate as opposed to works that play fast and loose with characterization in the source material or the ships are just plain boring. Modaozushi is incredibly tightly woven so I find myself being much pickier here and it's only my vast experience that lets me decide that I'll be picky in what I choose to consume and I'll just ignore (for the most part, I still get into a lot of fights with JC stans) takes that do not mesh with mine. We can live and let live for the most part.

I will say that Modaozushi has one of the more volitile fanbases I've been in. It definitely depends on the average age of the fanbase and how big it is, but my previous one, Good Omens, was for the most part very calm and relaxed and most debates tended to exist in the gray spaces of canon where there was a lot of room for debate. I highly doubt that wherever you end up next will be just like Modaozushi, every fandom has its own idiosyncrasies and you'll find your spaces every time.

Also @jiangwanyinscatmom is fantastic and deserves all the love. She is the only one allowed to determine JC's fuckability level and I can't wait to hear what she says when I graciously bestow this privilege upon her.

Thanks for the ask, anon!

[starkcontrasts]

so, hi. I've got a bit of an annoying question that you totally don't have to answer if you don't want to, but,,, I know you're into dc right? at least into batman? or idk I saw your long post about dick grayson rn and I know you post about batman/batfam (?) sometimes?

point is, I've never gotten into dc, never read a comic in my life and I've vaguely watched some of the batman movies while they were on tv but didn't really pay attention, but lately (as in the past two or three years) I've seen here on Tumblr talking a lot about batman and the batfam and all of Batman's adopted kids and how great they're and the found family dynamics and shit and ?? I kinda want to check it out nyself?

basically my question is, as someone who's never read/watched basically anything dc, where should I start? or is there a certain canon I should focus on? or if you don't wanna answer (which is totally fine) dyou know of anyone who may've already talked about this? I'm sure a million people have I just ?? don't even know where to start looking??

honestly a fandom this big and this diverse and with this much different canon it's a bit overwhelming, when I got into star trek at least I knew to start chronologically but with this I don't even know

anyways, thanks for your help! ❤️

not an annoying question at all!! in fact a very welcome question indeed, i love introducing ppl to new fandoms and i rarely get asks (srsly i've only gotten three in the entire history of this blog lol) so it's a two-for-one, win-win deal!

now to answer your lovely query:

yes i do love batman and yes i am a fan of dc and yes i'd be happy to help you on this journey of embarking on a new fandom, should you decide to continue! I'm actually a relatively new-age fan in terms of fully immersing myself in the content, I grew up with Teen Titans and later Young Justice, both of which I attribute much of my beginnings as a dc/batfamily fan to. I watched the Justice League and Batman animated shows when I was younger but they didn't stick as much as the aforementioned two and I know it seems like I'm going off on a tangent but this is relevant to my helping you, I promise!

Much of the comic material I've consumed over the years has degraded in memory - I don't remember most of the issues now, just a few panels and impressions - so I can't help you on the comic-reading front but there should be various accounts here on tumblr that do really good analyses and are much better than me at giving panel-based evidence. (I can think of @hood-ex off the top of my head). Even just searching through the tags of say, the Titans or Batman or the JL or any characters you already have in mind, should turn up at least a handful of comic panels from different issues, if you just want to start by lightly browsing those.

As for certain canon to focus on, the DC fandom is pretty famous for forcing its fans to root through multitudes of conflicting material (so. Many. Reboots.) and authors that have contradicted each other's works over the years, so the only thing I can really tell you is to pick and choose for yourself which pieces of canon you decide feel right for you. I know it's not really all that helpful but I really do recommend just going for the deep-dive and figuring out how to swim from there. Suicidal I know, sounds crazy for sure, but this is a fandom with some serious years under its belt - and all the changing attitudes and cultures that implies - and an excess of material from varying sources.

Young Justice and Teen Titans are both good shows for getting a feel for the world(tho both depict versions just different enough to be distinct in their interpretations) but they mess with canon a fair amount as well, so don't take everything they depict to be same across the board. In this regard, fanfiction actually IS your friend! The more you read, the more you can cross-reference! Even with the bevy of material to choose from, people typically agree on a fair amount of character staples (examples include: Dick Grayson being a very affectionate child, Jason Todd being a literature nerd, Bruce being emotionally-intelligent just...not necessarily acting on it lol) and often times the staples are the ones backed up by the canons.

(I'm not ashamed to admit that much of what's remained in my fickle memory can be attributed to character-realistic, memorable, thought-provoking fanfiction. Fanfiction exists for exploration and, I've found, can at times offer a more grounded, humane take on well-beloved characters that authors being Paid to write sometimes miss out on. Just - always doublecheck the tags and, when reading from authors that are heavily-biased, do your best to widen your exposure to the more objective, as well.)

There's not much else I can think of off the top of my head but my askbox AND my messages are always open if you have any more questions. I'm always down to help a budding fan and, if you ever do want some fic recommendations, I'm down to share links for those too! Thank you again for the lovely ask♥️

(Also, I'm sorry if this didn't do much in terms of providing you with direction but, at the very least, I hope I didn't drive you away.)