#it's impossibe to get a total exact result since we don't know Ashelin's age when Damas was banished but I did the best I could

[seirei-bh]

I managed to calculate how many years ago was Damas banished before Jak 2 events started.

I used to think that kid Jak/Mar was born in Haven City and that Damas's banishment was very recent, but after analyze more the story I changed my mind for these reasons:

-No citizen of Haven City mentions Damas. In Jak 3 we can hear Guards talking about how things were when Praxis was in the goverment, but nobody says nothing about a previous King before him.

-Baron Praxis seems to have a total control of the population and well-organized Krimson Guard at the beginning of Jak 2, two years after the events of the game.

-Ashelin said she looked down from the palace as a little girl and ‘imagined a better place’ just after she mentioned her father, so she was talking about his goverment, not Damas’s.

Also, some years ago I used to think the kid was born in Haven City, but now I’m conviced that Damas met his wife in the wastelands and kid Jak/ Mar must have been born in Spargus, years after Damas was banished. Because if the kid were born in Haven City more people would talk about him or about the royal family in general, but Samos only thought the kid was from the Mar linage because he saw his amulet and he told to the older Jak "he could be from the Mar linage...", "could", so that proves he wasn't even 100% sure, so the kid couldn't have born in Haven City.

-Some time later Veger learned both about his birth and that that child had a special gift to channel eco, so he kidnapped him. Perhaps he found out because the precursor monks told him or because Onin told him.

-We don't know exactly the kid's age, but he can walk perfectly, so he should be between 3 and 5 years at least. Let's say he's 4 years old.

-About other extra information, thanks to Jak 3’s bible we know Damas defeated the previous king « in a violent encounter ». That probably means he defeat him in the Arena, but to do that Damas should have previously earned the 3 combat amulets and also got certain status in Spargus to be respect as warrior to other spargans and to make the actual King accept a combat against him.

So putting together all this information and other key facts I’m gonna try to do a timeline. Before start I also have to say I read other theories of some people saying Damas could have been banished more than 20 years ago, but that’s too much. I think it should have been more than 5 years but less than 20. Let me explain why with these calculations:

A Jak/Mar 4 years kid + 9 months of pregnancy + extra time to Damas know his future wife and both fall in love (because I doubt a pure spargan woman warrior who have to survive every day and fight and explore wastelands commonly get pregnant easily with the first foraigner who fell in love with her) = 6-7 years

I guess he didn’t have a kid until he become in king, so we still have to add more previous events in the timeline : + months or years that took Damas to surpass all Arena of Death combats + time to train and planed a rebellion vs the previous king of Spargus and take the throne. This is a bit more complicate to calculate but we can take as reference Jak in Jak 3. Since the beginning of Jak 3 until Jak X there is a whole year, but Jak got his amulets before the end of the third game, so let’s say all tha training in Spargus took between 6-10 months.

So Damas spent 6-10 months training + extra time winning more status in Spargus = 1 year.

The total result would be 7-8 years.

However we still have to add to these calculations two very important key facts:

1) Torn never mentioned he worked under Damas’s orders when he was at KG, he only mentions Praxis. Besides he used to be a commander, so he should have been a few minimum of years at KG to become in commander. We don’t know how many years Torn stayed in KG, but we can calculate taking Erol as example :

*Torn was 28 in Jak 2. Erol was 25 but Erol was already the commander when Jak arrives to the city, so Erol was 23 back then (and Torn was 26). Then we could say Torn was in KG since he was 18 until he become in commander at 23 or maybe even one or two years later. 28-10= 18. So that means Praxis was ruling at least 10 years before Jak 2 events.

2) The scene about Ashelin talking about her childhood. She was a little girl when Praxis was ruling. But how old was Ashelin ? Let’s see :

Ashelin is 22 years old in Jak2. 10 years ago she was 12 years old.

When Damas was banished Ashelin couldn’t be in that moment a little girl too young because she remembered Damas and she knew he was alive so that means she should have do some researchs and I doubt a lot that, for example, a 5 years old girl could do something like that. So Ashelin was more than 5 years old and less than 13. Besides she was already aware about the bad things her father did and had certain understanding about the world. Let’s say she was at least 8 years. 22-8= 14

The final result is: Damas was banished about 10-14 years before Jak 2 events.