#it's brought up in activist spaces it's usually in reference to police brutality and unjust killings of more often than not black people
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shivasdarknight · 1 year ago
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@wickedsnack not to mention the entire concept of "i want a popular person to do it" has been proved to be Part of the Problem. when a smaller Black creator on YT got banned for nonsense reasons, several other big YT creators (including fucking markiplier) ACTIVELY TRIED to get banned doing similar things and didn't get even a slap on the wrist. it's all about $$ and big creators have already proven they can bring in the $$
Exactly!!! There are plenty of creators on tiktok that do curse a lot or even talk about race, but the main difference is that they're white and their platforms are huge and making a lot of money. They're also not politically left - if anything, they're likely to be liberal or conservative like fucking Libs of Tiktok.
Another example: the existence of the "⚠FAKE BODY" flag at the beginning of a description. This solely exists because women were getting their videos taken down for "inappropriate content" when they were wearing anything from bikinis or even just crop tops - worse so if it was someone who wasn't skinny or white. And naturally, not a single man was getting this harassment, even in borderline pornographic material. I follow a black cosplayer who has to put that in everything because she has a very elastic mouth/cheek area? And can and does weird shit with this, and if she doesn't include that "⚠FAKE BODY" tag the video gets taken down. I also can't count how many times black artists get their content shadowbanned just by appearing in the video. One jeweler I follow gets more engagement if she uses one of the annoying voice filters with nothing of herself in it, compared to say a video with her face and actual voice in it. Black dancers get shadowbanned for just existing or trying to promote their content - so where are these people getting the idea that "shadowbanning" is just a fallacy to handwave the fact they suck?
Because gee, it's like. People who make channels on Tiktok or YouTube their livelihood are people who pay attention to stats. They also experiment with videos, titles, content, descriptions etc to see what works and what doesnt. It's almost like you can get your account unshadow banned if a skinny white guy suddenly takes over the channel, and a few people have done that to prove a point. There's a damn good reason why ⚪, 🌴🧍, and ✋🏻 have all become synonymous with white (race). White people seem to be able to talk about white (race) with little issues, but black content creators can't even say the word which has resulted in these work arounds - the same applies to ⚫ and 🤚🏿 when referring to black (race) because that one gets you suppressed faster than the former (even so far as removing audio). Not to mention yahtzee instead of nazi, which I see the most from someone who breaks down anti-semitic dogwhistles and is in no way popular so he's at risk but obviously not a single one of the white supremacists/nazis in his comments is at risk for literal hate speech/harassment 🙃
All you have to do to get hit by Tiktok is to have a black person or even visibly disabled person appear in a video - so yes, they absolutely are smacking people with penalties for what words they use. It's entirely based on platform size, generated income for Tiktok, and it's been well documented. To say that shadowbanning isn't a thing on there - when we know for a Fact that platforms like Twitter do it, admit to it, and openly monitor language - is just frankly ridiculous and deeply ignorant. Just disgusting behavior all around that would rather characterize Tiktok solely by what gets popular while ignoring the many different and thriving activist communities on the platform that are struggling to stay afloat. Tiktok (and Twitter) are algorithm based, but that algorithm only works based on what you feed it - so what's that say about these fuckers if that's how they characterize their experience with the platform?
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tell me you've never been around non-white leftists on tiktok w/o telling me you've never been around non-white leftists on tiktok.
it's SO fucking prevalent over there, it happens constantly, i accidentally typed out bisexual at one point and got a threat of suspension, another one for just saying ass or bitch, you Can get flagged for saying politically leftist things, and it's also not just tiktok. it's been years since youtubers experimented to see what would get them banned and demonetized based on titles, descriptions and content in the first 30 seconds. channels i watch are constantly uploading and reuploading with new titles and cards and it's all that same thing - can't talk about race, can't mention black people whatsoever, can't mention queerness.
This Is A Thing. you're just telling on yourself and what your fyp looks like. because it's very clear as to what gets shadowbanned and what doesn't. y'all seriously sound like conservatives.
#original#wickedsnack#these people make me so roilingly mad#I DONT EVEN LIKE TIKTOK but the way that people are up their asses about it on here has me fucking DEFENDING it#an app that regularly ruins the career trajectory of non-political creators of color or queer creators and often queer creators of color 💀#but we know why it's fine to talk about how tiktok is awful to (white) queer creators and (white) disabled creators but not Why this#self-censorship came to be and who it impacts the most. like why is stuff relating to violence and death centered? easy. because when#it's brought up in activist spaces it's usually in reference to police brutality and unjust killings of more often than not black people#there is a lot of stuff that's getting suppressed wrt palestine and the iranian protests but nowhere near the degree of suppression that#the family of Emmanuel Fru are currently going through - which he's an black autistic man that's been /imprisoned/ by the Swedish governmen#for having a breakdown in public. they will not release him until he's ''proved he's cured'' of his autism and now are denying his family#the ability to even see or speak to him?? because they posted photos of him in the literal clown makeup they put him in and#evidence of overdrugging him so now they aren't allowed to see him At All. And this isn't getting nearly as much traction as other stuff#because once again the subject is a black autistic man. and the videos are getting suppressed because of what his mother is saying#she does not self censor and she - and him - appear in the videos. she's frequently suppressed#i just wish people would stop talking out of their ass i s2fg.#edit for clarification: the staff at the facility is doing shit like messing with Emmanuel's hair and putting him in clown makeup.#he also gained a suspicious amount of weight in a short time and it screams abuse#but when the family confronted staff about his treatment the family was then banned from seeing him#they further stopped all contact back in 2020 when Emmanuel's mother began posting photos and video
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