#it's NOT a roman anything it is a FASCIST and NAZIST gesture

[theitcharchives]

Let's clear up the fact that the ancient Romans didn't do that shit salute, either. It's based on a 1784 painting depicting three sons reaching for the swords their dad is holding up in a somewhat salute, the Oath of the Orazi. The fascists looooved the ancient Romans as a reminder of the "ancient glory of the nation" that was going to "be made great again" (tells you anything??) on those roots, they co-opted the fascio littorio and many other things including stuff from the national anthem that refers to the battles of older generations against the german/austrian invaders–then turned around and got all chummy with the nazis, nothing is sacred to this kind of people except power over others and their demented ideologies and their money. They don't care about you, they don't even care about each other.

Anyway muskrat did a nazist gesture and you should be trying harder to shoot him with all those guns you've got laying around

what do you mean elon musk did a nazi salute on live tv at the united states presidential inauguration twice and is now erasing the evidence off the internet by replacing the footage with the crowd cheering instead?

would be a shame if people reblogged this, wouldn’t it?

[fuckyeaharthuriana]

I appreciate the fervor against fascist parties, but I need to understand- how are they stealing/reappropriating anything? Like, in what way are they using arthurian mythos that amounts to stealing? I'm not being passive-aggressive here, I just seriously have no clue. I thought that things that belong to the public domain don't actually belong to anyone? So what is happening?

Fascists like to take symbols from mythology and apply new meanings to them. They did the same to my own history and various symbols from my country’s past (not to mention the gesture).

The problem is that once a symbol starts being associated with fascists/nazists, the public is not comfortable using it anymore. I’ll give you an example: the svastica, pepe the frog, the roman gesture, shield imaginary. Symbols are there to be easily recognized and the more a group uses them, the more they are associated with that group.

The rainbow, for example, is a neutral symbol that belongs to everyone, but is associated to LGBTQ rights, so when I wear a rainbow pin people do not think “oh, she really likes rainbows”.