#it kills me that the 'we're gonna kill each other' was said unironically

[luna-loveboop]

Anyone notice how everything is getting worse?

'I doubt we'll ever have the need for all our abilities'- to 'no holding back'

'We've done well avoiding friendly fire!' To 'we're gonna kill each other'

Welp.

They lost that mentality quickly

I'm grateful for all the fluff and family bonding sprinkled in- because it's getting serious. Stories get more intense as you go yeah? Luckily they are families and heros ready to work forward through anything- but the progression looking back is interesting

Art by Jojo @linkeduniverse au :DD

[em0r1ck]

On a rambling about myself kick so more tales from the galaxy

Anecdotes in bullet points edition

Beth and I had a wine night every Wednesday. We watched the bachelor together, talked, and got shit faced

I don't hate Jerry. He's okay. My daughter loves him. But can you blame a guy for bullying an easy target? I did the "there's something on your shirt" bit and he fucking fell for it. Man's 36 and doesn't know basic April fool's jokes

The first week I started staying with Beth and her family, Morty was too scared to talk to me. The very first time he actually said something aloud and directed at me was when he asked me to open a pickle jar

Morty snuck into the garage every night for a month straight to make a tiny device that beeped every thirty minutes and hid it in his sister's room. I'm not sure how that little shit knew how to do all that stuff he did because he made that from scratch

I lost a bet about Xalian sports event and Morty got to put clown makeup on my face

Morty was unironically a very popular kid in his school

The president and I made out once or twice. Both times we were on drugs, like super on drugs. I blackmailed him with that a lot

A while before I returned to my estranged daughter, I transferred my conscious into a younger clone (just 45) in am attempt to live long enough to actually make it back to Earth. I'm 71, but last time I was in my own body it was only 47

It took me a few months to adjust to Earth time, I had gotten used to the intergalactic standard, which didn't run on a day/night system. I was not the guy you ask for the time

The Citadel worked way differently than this reality's fictional depiction. Can't even completely get into it here. It wasn't a government, more like a trading and hiding spot. It was a "hey, come here, do some stuff. We'd prefer it if you didn't kill each other but the most we're gonna do is kick you out if you do". You'd be surprised that incidents were a rare occurrence

[aquariusshadow]

It’s really not that deep or should I say superficial. Love was that tad more relatable to as a character (minus the murder) than what Joe was. She’d just had a baby and he already had eyes on another woman. He makes her feels insane for killing Natalie on a whim, when he does the exact same thing with Mariannes husband. He spends the entire show pretty much narrating how she’s some super emotional woman who can’t control her feelings when he’s the exact the same - like you said, they’re soulmates. Except this is an experience (w/o the murder context) that every woman has likely experienced at some point in their life.

For a lot of us that are memeing around, enjoying the show for what it is, preferring Love over Joe or vise versa, etc, it isn't that serious. That's why my post was directed specifically at people unironically romanticizing and excusing Love's actions because that's what I've been seeing. I'll requote and even tweak my final statement on the OG post here (tweaks in bold): Empathizing, analyzing, relating on some level, enjoying, and understanding a character’s motives is very different than romanticizing and genuinely excusing their actions unironically and my issue is I’ve seen too much of the latter and not enough of the former.

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You're absolutely right on why Love would come off as more relatable. Hell I found her more relatable myself most of the time while watching season 3. But, just because she's more relatable, especially since she's reflecting an experience that a lot women have gone through, doesn't automatically make her exempt from criticism. (And for the record, I don't see your comments as romanticizing Love, in fact, you're empathizing, and explaining, which is nice to see! So, I hope if you do read this you don't think I'm including your ask/comments along with those I am criticizing.)

The biggest one she should get, which to me really solidifies Love and Joe being mirrors to each other, is that she hooks up with with 19 year old, teenage/barely an adult Theo Engler who is in a very fragile mental state. The argument can be made that she did so because she was hurting because of Joe, which is definitely true, but I would also make the argument that she would do it anyways as I don't think it's only because of Joe (but that's going too far off tangent, I'm more than willing to expand on my thoughts about this on another post). Poor Theo was genuinely enamored with Love and was willing to 'save' her from Joe (which he was right about Joe, I don't want to disregard that), yet in the end, when Theo became an official obstacle in Love's eyes and saw the real Love, she tried to kill him without blinking (and she died believing she succeeded in killing him). Either way, regardless on what arguments would be made, Love hooking up with Theo was wrong and ngl I am surprised at the lack of commentary surrounding this very complex relationship.

Just because she's more relatable to the viewer, doesn't change the fact that Love has also done some very questionable actions. We all know Joe is a hypocrite and a piece of shit. We don't need that spelled out to us. We know that Joe treated Love horribly and you explained very well how he did so this season, and I bet all of us were yelling at our screens telling him "your soulmate is right there dumbass just stop!" That's why I didn't spend my post talking about all the bad things Joe did.

We're all so quick to call out Joe's behavior, hypocrisy, and flaws...yet Love isn't getting any sort of commentary about her own flaws and questionable actions--regardless on whether or not she's more relatable.

And, again, I did enjoy Love and I related to her on many different levels since season 2 and throughout season 3...but I'm not gonna romanticize her flaws regardless of how I personally connected with her character.

Thank you for your insight and answering my question!