#is smth horribly wrong w me idk why i feel this awful
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neverlandmylove ¡ 5 months ago
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i feel so fucking anxious rn i need to be sjot and killed
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demon-country ¡ 24 days ago
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#wiggles hands #i personally think that stolas had it wrong because even before blitzø started yelling #stolas thought blitzø didnt feel the same and immediately ditched as opposed to like?? giving him a fucking minute to process?? not cool??? #like yes the trauma response about being yelled at and setting boundaries and all that. thats fine #but Why stolas did you Immediately leave it wasnt even a rejection he just didnt Understand #give him a Fucking SECOND!!?? #which is smth blitzø also yells abt in full moon iirc! bc like DUH!!??? #and there IS power imbalance in the way stolas just tosses blitzø outside via teleportation. #it DOES imply he thinks little of blitzø In That Moment bc hes 'seeing his abuser' #but like... he would not teleport stella outside like that. even when he asserted his boundaries w her he NEVER did that shit #it WAS disrespectful to blitzø. it was. and the immediate dismissiveness the next morning obv didnt fuckin help #cuz blitzø immediately went on the defensive and like yeah he said horrible shit but FUCK DUDE he didnt instigate it! #like yeah stolas doesnt have to sit there and take it EXCEPT HES THE ONE WHO FUCKING INITIATED THE ISSUE? SO YES HE KIND OF DOES HAVE TO#HEAR BLITZØ OUT AND SIT THERE?? #puts my head in my hands. #and all the ppl talking abt ou well its stolas' house so he gets to portal blitzø out! #you are a fucking dick? you cant spring a huge relationship change on somebody and then run off and act the hurt party when they havent even #processed it yet! and then KICK THEM OUT when they understandably get ANGRY at you dismissing them? and HELLO. STOLAS DISMISSES BLITZØ.#HES NOT ONE OF YOUR SERVANT IMPS DUDE! HELLOOOO?????? #idk idk idk like stolas was definitely going through it but HOLY SHIT you guys cant be serious when you say it was equal on both sides #when theres a very obvious clear systemic power imbalance. like youre FUCKING WITH ME?? you cant be serious rn.
Wow. This... sure is a lot of extremely bad faith misinterpretations of those scenes. I'm going to address all of this step by step, I guess, because my dude, you are wildly off the mark on basically everything you accused Stolas of. So I hope you're ready, because this reply is going to be very long.
"#i personally think that stolas had it wrong because even before blitzø started yelling #stolas thought blitzø didnt feel the same and immediately ditched as opposed to like?? giving him a fucking minute to process?? not cool??? #like yes the trauma response about being yelled at and setting boundaries and all that. thats fine #but Why stolas did you Immediately leave it wasnt even a rejection he just didnt Understand #give him a Fucking SECOND!!?? #which is smth blitzø also yells abt in full moon iirc! bc like DUH!!???"
Yeah no, Stolas had every right to walk away, and was 100% justified in doing so. Maybe it wasn't entirely fair to Blitz, because on his end of things it looked totally different, but you already seem to understand what it looked like from Blitz's pov, so since we're talking about whether they equally fucked up or not, then I want you to step back from that and think about how it looked to Stolas, too.
Blitz did not respond to Stolas' confession with "hold the fuck on" or "what the fuck?" or "what do you mean?", nor did he do literally anything at all to suggest that he was confused or needed a moment to process what Stolas was saying. Blitz's immediate, snap reaction was to go "ohhh, okay you're fucking with me! This is an interesting roleplay, never done this one before but I can get into it. 'Ohhh, Stolas, I'll stay with you~! I love you sooo much~!'"
Perhaps you've never experienced this, but let me assure you that it is soul-crushingly awful to confess something important to you to someone you trust, only for them to completely write it off as a joke and/or make fun of you for it. It's extremely humiliating and feels like a deep betrayal, because you trusted them and were vulnerable with them, and in return all you got was mockery.
I've asked a number of real life actual people who have all, without fail, said that if that happened to them they'd end the conversation right there and walk away. Most of them, including me, said they'd leave just so they could go cry in private, and one said that they'd basically say "fuck you" and leave because they were pissed off. Stolas was the former. Take a moment to really, genuinely think about what your own reaction would be to having someone you love and trust make fun of you after you confess something important and vulnerable. It doesn't have to be a love confession, mine certainly wasn't, but do you honestly think you'd want to stick around after that?
So Stolas would have been justified in walking away just from that. He was very kind as he took his leave too and tried to bow out as gracefully as he could without causing a fuss, which is made all the more impressive because Blitz unintentionally triggered Stolas' trauma with the roleplay bit. Stolas has lived with Stella for 18 years at this point in the timeline, and part of how she abused him was humiliating him and mocking his feelings. He hides it decently well with Stella, because he's had decades of practice at this point, but we see in Ozzie's that being humiliated, especially in public, is a trauma landmine that Blitz tripped right onto. Yeah, he's going to leave, and it's not a fault that he does.
Moreover, you'll notice that Stolas doesn't kick Blitz out here or tell him to leave. He walks away further into the house, and yes he's probably expecting that Blitz will take it as an opportunity to bounce, but he does not tell him to go. Blitz could have waited as he took the moment he needed and thought things over, and then talked and asked whatever questions he needed to after Stolas came back. It was his bedroom and it was midnight, it's not like Stolas wasn't going to come back within the next couple of hours. Or Blitz could have left, thought things over, and come back. Instead, he followed after Stolas, which wasn't a great feeling for either of them, because Stolas was only barely staving off a breakdown and Blitz was getting hit in that abandonment trauma all over again, but Stolas walking off scared him so he acted on the impulse to not let Stolas get away. 
And he started off fine! Even though he was basically chasing Stolas, he wasn't angry or anything. He asked "wait, you were serious?! Hold on now, Stolas. What the fuck?" and Stolas did his best to answer even as he kept walking, rather than telling him to go away or kicking him out. His answer was poorly worded though and it set Blitz off, which is when we get to your next point.
#and there IS power imbalance in the way stolas just tosses blitzø outside via teleportation. #it DOES imply he thinks little of blitzø In That Moment bc hes 'seeing his abuser' #but like... he would not teleport stella outside like that. even when he asserted his boundaries w her he NEVER did that shit #it WAS disrespectful to blitzø. it was.
???? How on earth did you reach this conclusion?? Of course Stolas would never teleport Stella outside like that. That's not respect, that's fear. It took everything he had to stand up to Stella the way he did, which we know because he collapsed as soon as she was gone. He was terrified of her; he was backing away while she approached and knew she was about to hit him. He was fighting back, yes, but you can tell from her reaction that he almost never has in the past. It had nothing to do with respecting her, because his normal response seems to be either standing there silently taking the abuse or shrinking in on himself while trying to placate her.
As for what happened in the ballroom, Stolas was triggered for the second time in just a handful of minutes, this time by Blitz slamming open the door and yelling. It says absolutely nothing about how much Stolas does or does not respect him that these actions triggered a trauma response in Stolas. Trauma doesn't work like that. Anyone doing that to Stolas would have made him panic, because when you're experiencing a traumatic reaction, even if you're somewhere safe with someone you implicitly trust, your brain freaks the fuck out.
It was in no way disrespectful to kick Blitz out, it was just Stolas going into extreme Flight mode. Blitz wasn't letting him leave and at the end even ran towards him (to apologize, but Stolas had no way of knowing that and Blitz was already half out the portal before he started to say sorry and didn't even finish it. Also, you hear Stolas very faintly saying he's sorry before the portal closes), of course he's going to force Blitz out! He didn't want a fight with Blitz like he had with Stella, because he wasn't angry, he just wanted to be alone.
"and the immediate dismissiveness the next morning obv didnt fuckin help #cuz blitzø immediately went on the defensive and like yeah he said horrible shit but FUCK DUDE he didnt instigate it! #like yeah stolas doesnt have to sit there and take it EXCEPT HES THE ONE WHO FUCKING INITIATED THE ISSUE? SO YES HE KIND OF DOES HAVE TO#HEAR BLITZØ OUT AND SIT THERE??"
No, he really, really does not have to sit there and hear Blitz out. Stolas made it very clear in actual words that he did not want to see Blitz right then, because he was feeling too raw so soon after everything and Blitz was not giving him any space to breathe. And Blitz, once again, did not leave. He also, you'll notice, didn't force Blitz to leave, he just asked him to go, because this time he wasn't outright panicking. And even then, he kept giving Blitz chances to talk things out with him, showing that he wasn't dismissing Blitz.
Also, you're really telling me that you think a victim of domestic violence should be forced to stick around when someone is yelling at them? It doesn't matter if he "initiated things", that doesn't mean he's going to okay when someone starts grabbing and yelling at him. If Blitz was being calmer about it, and wasn't continually intentionally mocking Stolas and his feelings throughout that conversation (which, again, big trigger for Stolas, he's just hiding it better now because he was braced for it. Note that he's reacting a lot like he did when Stella was mocking him at the party) then I might agree with you. If Stolas had actually instigated the garden scene by telling Blitz to come over and then refused to listen while Blitz tried to explain, that'd be super fucked up. But Stolas didn't ask Blitz to come over, explicitly told him to leave because it hurt to much to talk to him right then, and Blitz was not being calm. Blitz was self-destructing and was being both clingy and aggressive, because he was scared of losing Stolas but was even more terrified of being vulnerable, and he habitually masks his fear with anger.
"#puts my head in my hands. #and all the ppl talking abt ou well its stolas' house so he gets to portal blitzø out! #you are a fucking dick? you cant spring a huge relationship change on somebody and then run off and act the hurt party when they havent even #processed it yet! and then KICK THEM OUT when they understandably get ANGRY at you dismissing them? and HELLO. STOLAS DISMISSES BLITZØ."
Buddy. Dude. Stolas didn't actually spring this on Blitz. Blitz literally says at the beginning of the episode that he's been avoiding Stolas because he knows Stolas wants to talk, and he doesn't want things to become complicated. He knows things will change as soon as he actually talks to Stolas and that freaks him out, because in his mind it can't possibly be something good, and this fear is exacerbated by what Loona told him. He literally tells Fizz that Stolas does things to show he likes him, and multiple people have flat out told Blitz that he does, and Blitz can't believe that for multiple reasons, but this entire thing has been building up for months and he knows it. 
Stolas also did not spring his "feelings bullshit" on Blitz either, despite what Blitz claimed. It might have felt like it, because up until then he was in complete denial of those feelings being genuine, but Stolas has not been subtle, by any means. He has, in his and everyone else's minds, been showing Blitz that he cares about him at the very least as a friend, since this whole thing started. Even in fucking Loo Loo Land, despite him awkwardly trying to flirt with Blitz a couple of times, he doesn't actually try to start anything while they're there. He doesn't even seem to expect something sexual to happen between them at all, because he says he wants Blitz and his employees to come and immediately offers to pay Blitz with money, rather than sexual favors like Blitz anticipated. He's using it as an excuse to hang out with Blitz - because he's an idiot who didn't think about how uncomfortable it'd be for literally everyone involved, especially Octavia - and Blitz even knows that because he knows Stolas doesn't actually need one bodyguard, let alone three.
He invited all of them to the harvest moon festival because he thought it'd be fun, again with no expectation of anything sexy happening. He came to rescue I.M.P. with no ulterior motive, he just wanted to help them. He didn't ask for or suggest that he wanted sex in return for the save either, he just asked for a thank you in a very pouty voice because none of them thanked him, and Blitz turned things sexual, which he was happy to follow the lead on. He was super excited for the date, dressed up super fancy, proudly walked into Ozzie's holding Blitz's hand, tried over and over to talk to Blitz because he thought it was a real date, stood up to defend Blitz from Verosika (which Blitz didn't see and which he didn't get to follow through on, because Ozzie took that chance to go on the attack and publicly humiliate him), and even after that disaster he still invited Blitz in solely to hang out and maybe cuddle a bit.
He would ask Blitz to stay the night after they were done having sex instead of just kicking him out, which we see in the memory fragments. He called Blitz on the regular just to talk about his day and was frequently interacting with him on social media, both for approximately a year and a half. He was oblivious to how condescending his attempts at flirting were and had no idea how demeaning it was for Blitz until Blitz finally showed him how much all that hurt him (after Ozzie's), but he only was acting like that and talking that way because he genuinely believed that it was what Blitz wanted and was into, based on their first night together (doesn't excuse it, of course, but it was another way he was desperately trying to show how much he wanted Blitz).
For close to two years by the time The Full Moon rolled around, Stolas has been trying very hard and kind of ineptly to show Blitz he likes him, and at the very least wants to be real friends with him (that also have sex). Literally everyone who has seen them together knows how much Stolas likes Blitz, including Blitz despite him being in denial of it. He has tried again and again and again for nearly two years to show Blitz he cares about him and wants him around, and Blitz - for understandable reasons given his own trauma, history, biases, and hangups - has rejected him time and again. That's why Stolas was expecting Blitz to reject him following his confession. He expected Blitz to tell him to fuck off or to just take the crystal and run without looking back, but he didn't expect to be (unintentionally) mocked. He didn't expect Blitz, who he trusted, to humiliate him. Even without the trauma he has surrounding that, after all the other rejections of course Stolas is going to take Blitz mocking him as another rejection. He didn't think Blitz was confused, because he thinks he's made his feelings pretty damn clear for ages now, and that's why he said he had his answer and was trying to leave before he started crying - which most people hate to do, because crying in front of other people is often a mortifying experience.
"STOLAS DISMISSES BLITZØ.#HES NOT ONE OF YOUR SERVANT IMPS DUDE! HELLOOOO?????? #idk idk idk like stolas was definitely going through it but HOLY SHIT you guys cant be serious when you say it was equal on both sides #when theres a very obvious clear systemic power imbalance. like youre FUCKING WITH ME?? you cant be serious rn"
He wasn't dismissing Blitz. He super fucking did not. He wanted to be alone so he could go cry his guts out, and Blitz was scaring him by getting angry and slamming open doors. That's not dismissing someone, that's going into panic mode. He wasn't treating him like a servant, if he was he would have been bored and unaffected and told him to go. He. Was. Scared. He was hurt and humiliated and scared and Blitz was chasing him down and yelling at him. It's not playing the victim to be scared and it's not playing the victim when your feelings get mocked and you want to get away from the person who just stomped all over your heart.
Blitz's reactions make sense from his end, and absolutely he was being triggered too - he was in fact the one triggered first, though that too was by accident. Yes, his anger was justified and he had every right to express it when he felt he wasn't being listened to. Yes, he wasn't intending to scare Stolas. Yes, Stolas has messed up and hurt Blitz in numerous ways over the course of the series. But my god, that does not mean that Stolas' feelings and reactions are any less justified and reasonable.
It was equal on both sides. They both equally fucked up. They both accidentally hurt and triggered each other. They both were scared. Stolas sending Blitz away was the only thing he could think of to de-escalate the situation, because Blitz was actively trying to pick a fight and Stolas had no idea that Blitz would stop just because he started crying (you think anyone else has ever stopped just because he cried? We literally see both Stella and Paimon mock him for it, and Stolas isn't exactly in a rational sort of mindset here).
Are you really, honestly, truly telling me that you would be fine just standing there and letting someone who just hurt you scream at you in a way that reminded you of both your domestic abuser and the person who recently tried to murder and mutilate you? Are you kidding me? You have completely misinterpreted everything Stolas has said and done in those two episodes by refusing to look at it with any amount of sympathy or compassion and immediately jumping to the worst possible scenario.
"Stolas shouldn't have portalled out Blitz during Full Moon" this and "Stolas should have stuck around and listened to Blitz in the garden during Apology Tour" that. Do y'all not realize how it sounds to demand that a domestic abuse victim stick around when someone is yelling at and insulting them? And on the flip side of that, do the other half of y'all not realize how it sounds to demand that someone, particularly someone from an oppressed group, never get loud or demonstrably angry just because it might scare someone?
Like Blitz had every right to air his grievances in Full Moon, and being angry when you're treated poorly is a perfectly normal, reasonable response. It's not inherently abusive to yell and stomp when you get mad, and it's completely unreasonable to say that Blitz is just because he did. But at the same time, Stolas does not have to sit there and take being yelled at when he's already had to suffer though someone doing it to him maliciously for at least 17 years. He does not have to take being grabbed, being screamed at, or having his clearly stated boundaries ignored either, like at the beginning of Apology Tour. Him getting upset when someone does that to him, when he's only just gotten away from his abuser and was almost murdered for it, is not some failing on his part or him playing the victim.
Blitz's trauma doesn't care that Stolas wasn't actually going to abandon Blitz, and it doesn't care that that the hurtful things Stolas has said and done have come largely from a place of ignorance rather than a lack of care. He's protecting himself the only way he knows how and is blinded by the sheer intensity and longevity of his self-loathing, but frankly it was a good thing for him to finally speak up about how some of the things Stolas does makes him feel, and it's a very good thing that he's actually trying to fight to keep Stolas rather than just booking it and throwing a grenade behind him on the way out.
Just like Stolas' trauma doesn't care if he knows Blitz is different than Stella and wouldn't actually hurt him, and it doesn't care that Blitz's anger comes from a hurt, scared, and traumatized place as opposed to the pleasure Stella took in hurting and scaring him. Stolas hasn't had any time to even begin to heal from the damage she did to him, and frankly if he's scared and breaking down like in Full Moon it's actually a step up if he's removing himself from whoever is triggering him, even if it wasn't fair to Blitz who was, in his own way, attempting to work things out.
Neither of them is the bad guy here, they're just very reasonably upset and having clashing trauma responses. You can be compassionate and understanding of both sides without saying that either of them should have to just sit there and take it when someone is greatly upsetting them. It's normal to get angry when you're scared and upset, and it's normal to cry and run away when you're scared and upset, and neither are wrong or bad just because in the moment when emotions were running high they each did several things that accidently set the other off, especially when they had no way of knowing it was a trigger beforehand.
None of this is say that the way things shook out was great or productive, and they definitely need to work on healing so that they're not letting their fear and trauma control them. If they're going to get to place of real understanding, then at some point these two need to sit down with the intent to talk things out and have an honest and open conversation with each other, without Blitz yelling or Stolas running or either of them letting their preconceived assumptions and biases get in the way of actually listening. Blitz needs to not self-sabotage and Stolas needs to not shut down, and that's going to be really fucking hard for both of them, because that's how they've been coping with their trauma for literal decades.
And to his major credit, Blitz got it right at the end of Apology Tour, the only thing he got wrong was the timing because Stolas was so drunk that I'll be honestly surprised if he remembers most of it in the morning. He wasn't in any state of mind to listen or pay attention, but at the same time, to his credit he's already been reflecting on what Blitz has been saying to him and trying to figure out where and how he fucked up and hurt Blitz. And also, he kept saying things like "right now", which means he will be ready to talk things out eventually if he's just given a little bit of space to put himself back together and think about things.
And guys, please. Just because some people will start crying to try to manipulate and guilt trip those around them whenever someone gets upset at something they did, doesn't make that what Stolas did. He was trying to get away so Blitz wouldn't see him cry. And just because some people like to fly off the handle and rage at every perceived infraction, doesn't make that what Blitz did. He had justifiable cause to be angry and in Full Moon he didn't think Stolas was listening, so he tried to make himself louder and bigger in an attempt to make himself be heard and his hurt be acknowledged. If one of their reactions made you uncomfortable, that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But the story isn't about those kinds of people, it's about two fictional demons who aren't trying to hurt or manipulate each other, they're just struggling to juggle trauma, ignorance, and the desire to be together. They're not able to yet, but that's what character arcs are for.
And just to head off any comments on it: no, the narrative is not villifying Blitz and it's not babying Stolas or trying to sweep any of the shit he's done under the rug. Blitz being angry and self-destructive doesn't make him a villain, and Stolas crying a few times and still being pretty ignorant of how he's come across doesn't mean they're trying to say he's done nothing wrong.
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transrightsjimin ¡ 5 years ago
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Baby blue and teal!!✨✨
hi! sorry for answering these so late but i was watching Sabrina (the 90s ver) yesterday!
also sorry im going down awful memory lane in this post so it’s getting long
Baby blue - what’s the best compliment that you’ve ever recieved?
uhhh oh god this is rly difficult bc most of the compliments i’ve gotten throughout my life are abt me being good at drawing or being smart but like… these compliments feel so meaningsless to me bc ive heard them so often so i dont know how to respond genuinely to it anymore. uhhh this is rough. i dont remember positive things nvm positive things abt myself i guess. i mean nowadays i do respond well to positive feedback on my academic writing (though i dont feel deserving of this feedback bc i half-ass everything last minute) and when ppl like my makeup. i like both of the latter bc i actually put effort in that and look forward to hearing i did it well, but being able to draw well ever since i could hold a pen or being smart are things i’m used to and are just… traits, things that just are and say nothing about my accomplishments. i know ppl on this site keep saying making art (by that they only mean digital fan drawings lol) is not abt just being able to do it bc of talent but the result of hard work and that ppl don’t have natural talent and i see what they mean (you dont get better w/o practice) but just… rly dont agree w that bc i cant remember ever working hard on illustrations or drawings, its all rly easy to me and always has been.
uhh anyway, i dont rly know but smth good abt my papers or makeup makes me feel satiated. i do rly like it when someone says smth insightful about my illustrations or merchandise beyond just ‘you can draw well’! i love compliments but i dread ‘you can draw so well’ and ‘youre so smart’ :/
Teal - what’s something horrible that everyone should try once?
uhhh idk what the op of that post referred to w this one bullet, and i think my answer is hard to seek out yourself, bc it depends on the reactions of others. but i think it’s good for everyone to be held accountable for saying or doing something horrible. the first thing i thought of when i saw this question was when i was a kid in primary school and said smth terribly racist / islamophobic. i knew it was horrible, and i wasn’t sure why i blurted it out, like i didn’t intend on saying it bc i was just repeating a lot of things i heard but pasting ‘i hate’ in fron of it whenever i felt depressed, but that was no excuse ofc. my classmate heard me mumble it and yelled through the class that i said it and i was taken out of class and had to talk to the principle. it was a horrible moment, not like for me or anything, but bc a lot of muslim classmates were hurt and i was frustrated w the white moms of classmates, who told me i didn’t have to apologize bc the rest of the class was bullying me and one mom compared it to saying there’s also nothing wrong w saying “i don’t like elephants” and i was like no but that’s not like this case at all!!! and i apologized to the class and it has been one of the worst moments in my life but it stuck w me bc i was held accountable for something horrible and thought of it later on in life too when i hurt someone’s feelings / said smth bigoted and think before i speak and know i can’t just act like / say i hate everything bc ppl are hurt by that.
so yeah, i think it’s horrible but good for everyone to be hold accountable for their actions and learn to apologize. it’s weird to say everyone should “try” it once though bc it makes it sound in this case like i’m recommending to seek out offending others and as if you have a guarantee you will be called out (which is sadly not always the case).
sorry these were very long answers but i tend to write for a while lol
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ayyponine ¡ 5 years ago
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anyway re: billy hargrove
im so okay w him being dead my dudes. season 3 tried hard to make me care abt him w the sad backstory but i could not give one fuck my man. perish
dont get me wrong his sad backstory is valid. if yr young and tender and good and u love surfing and u love yr mom thats gr8 and if yr dad is an abusive monster who ruins you for life thats horrible and no kid deserves that. but while the show was trying to spin this sad narrative of like oh he couldnt help becoming this way, pls feel sorry fr him in my head it was just like. let me play a sad song fr u on the worlds smallest violin while im mentally replaying all the moments frm the previous season in which eg 1. he had that super weird aggressive tension w max in the car before going full psychopath trying to drive them str8 into the kids on their bikes 2. he was clearly upsetting her by being invasive and controlling and forcefully grabbing her by the fucking wrist while saying threatening shit abt lucas 3. (as max sees him speeding his car twrds where shes indoors w the boys) "it's my brother. he can’t know im here, he’ll kill me. he’ll kill us.” 4. “you disobeyed me. and you know what happens when you disobey me. i break things” *grabs and shoves a fucking middleschooler (?)  into the wall* 5. remember when max had to fucking tranquilize and threaten him w violence herself to get him to stop literally murdering steve (video comp of billy & max interaction in the first season)
imagine my astonishment when i check the stranger things tag & see the weird possessive controlling shit get interpreted & remolded as aww he cares abt his lil sister and wants to protect her so badly.. hes just kinda weird in showing it bc hes so passionate abt it..... same @ yt with “hot/badass moments!!” type compilations and tender sibling edits like. did we watch the same show bruv
i mean thats not just sibling bickering like “oh ykno we fight abt dumb shit but in the end we’re in this together ykno” not when there’s a clear power imbalance where max is not comfortable w him & can’t be “sassy” back without getting threatened (smth she does all the time to the other kids tho), keeping her eyes averted, and with him able to switch instantly into a super aggressive mode (by directly shouting at her, grabbing her physically, or speeding off in a brusque kind of way) like... thats not a protective big brother type behaviour man (steve is literally right there) & idk what to tell you. seems like ppl love to point out he said “max, youre a piece of shit but we’re family now wether we like it or not” but actions speak louder than words man. hes a dick
the ACTOR im cool with btw. this season he got to do some more stuff w his character so that was probably gr8 fr him. also hes hot which is why, im assuming, ppl are so ready to be like aw poor troubled bby let me hold u
the fucking character though can crawl in a hole and die. thanks fr finally doing smth RIGHT at the moment you kicked the bucket it was about god damn fucking time. i only feel bad fr max crying bc she’s probably super conflicted w him being horribly abusive & a big antagonist fr 2 seasons only to then turn & do smth to help twrds the end, snape style. bet it sucks fr her to completely lose someone who she hoped couldve turned out good at some point (but yknow, didn’t) but that entire self-blaming doubt of whether yr allowed to feel shit abt being traumatised after long term abuse bc the abuser on occasion maybe showed there was smth more to him that is just. an entire other rabbit hole im not gonna step into and get my full fucking leg caught in rn
(also quick sidenote now that IT: chapter 2 is rapidly approaching i wonder, do people think the same abt henry bowers?? bc that’s literally perfect fr projecting the exact same type of oh hes not a bad person, hes just ~complicated and troubled type of shit. oh he has a shitty dad. yeah hes still a physically violent bully actively trying to murder kids yall what the fuck. being traumatised doesnt cancel out the fact that hes become a fucking terrifying psychopath bc of it and since so many fucking people go thru abuse and DONT take that out on others. hot take but mb you cant put that blame full on his shit dad. we be out here growing up more mature than our dads all the time wtf)
lbr while that entire death was happening i was like ok cool man just die already. @the duffers why are yall trying to make me care abt this shitstain who like five minutes ago tried to T-bone crash into the car to kill like half the crew. i conceded fr a hot second that like yeah ok he WAS possessed so mb that doesnt count but actually, fuck that, if anything im gonna interpret that shit as a huge fucking metaphor of emotional abuse, whether it was intended as such or not! bc a few episodes before that, the fucking sauna scene hit pretty hard my dudes. i mean, the kids working together to trap him, getting the upperhand on the terrifying powerful and more or less human (rather than outright supernatural) antagonist?? who then turns immediately into a diff person crying, apologising, assuming a broken nonthreatening role to make them doubt abt whether theyre doing the right thing, playing with max’s emotions and drawing her close so she’ll be within reach when he turns that full 180 again and slashes at her while screaming bitch & threatening to gut her i mean?? that emotional manipulation paired w violent outbursts just fucking resonated hard and *smacks lips* tastes like textbook abuse bruh (link to the scene im talking abt. i p much explained what happened but still, to see it is a punch in the gut man)
& then later again in a v similar moment, when hes chasing max, mike and eleven and she tries to appeal to his human side as his lil sister only to get knocked str8 the fuck out with zero hesitation. and the fact that she casually knows all abt wound care (i fully believe her when she says it’s bc of the skateboarding but it still gave fucking pause bc of the obvious association, just like the stunned concern the other characters fr a hot sec showed. god). idk that whole deal just made me think like wow fuck. it really be like that huh.
again the sauna thing hit HARD man if anything that manipulative two faced powerplay is just the most succinct summary of how abuse works. oh it’s not my fault. oh theres a shadow frm like idk where taking control of me. im so sorry abt whatever non specified thing i did to harm you. forgive me and buy into my fake crying while i prepare to turn and hurt you again in a flash bc i dont give a fuck about your wellbeing
"but he was abused himself” cool motive still murder
again it’s bullshit, it’s so wrong & fucked up fr an adult to habitually be emotionally and physically abusive to their child and my heart goes out hard to child billy having to suffer like that and even to teen billy having to still cope w that balancing act of trying to keep his head above water. but im feeling zero sympathy twrds that bitch then being just as bad if not worse & repeating the cycle in the exact same fucking way, by being emotionally and physically abusive to a fucking child. thats not a bad boy act, thats not some ~tsundere softboi shit. “he means well” lol press x fr doubt
anyway tldr protective big brother dynamic is steve w dustin. “annoying lil sibling but yknow, theyre family” dynamic is lucas and erica. the way billy gets w max im pretty fucking sure is abuse bruh. if you wanna fuck the actor thats fine but dont try to uncancel your problematic fave w tough shell soft interior bullshit just accept that the character’s a slimy bastard and live w it like the rest of us
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my opinion on;
character in general: For a while I was very much on the “ouma is awful and abusive” side because I had no idea about his character as you know I haven’t played the game lmao. Still haven’t, but exposure to Ouma through the dash and friends that are fans have opened my eyes. I… still don’t get his character entirely, and I don’t think I will until I play, but I do like him. He’s complicated, probably the most complicated character in the franchise? He’s a fan fav like Komaeda (tho he is not Komaeda) and he’s… easily misinterpreted and reduced to jokes and shallow personality traits (like he’s a trickster but that’s not all he is right???? tho okay i love all the ouma memes ever) I feel, just like him Idk what else to say aghggh there’s not much I can yet sorry! 
how they play them: I haven’t seen your Ouma that much, admittedly. You being inactive is one part of this, and me not browsing my dash as much as I used to is another. BUT…. I am very very sure you play him as best as you can, because I know you love him. Anyone who loves their muse as much as you do, I feel can’t go wrong. Besides at the end of the day, it really is all about having fun. There’s a lot of Oumas running around and each and every single one is so unique and entertaining to me cause idk the character!!! I love them all!!! Please tell me more about your Ouma.
the mun: Cheri… the first thing I have to say that is you are very, very, very hard on yourself quite a lot when you really shouldn’t be. I really like you, I admired your blogs from a distance before and when we finally became mutuals on my Sonia it was really cool! And then we got talking and hoo, the rest is history. You’re always making me laugh and I am just amazed by our similarities when it comes to really, really personal things I never thought I could share with someone as horrible as it is. I know you’ve been through stuff, some even as recent as just last week it feels, and you’re still healing through it. But, and I know I really shouldn’t compare, but I feel you’re a lot stronger compared to me when it comes to people hurting you and getting back on your feet, and your progress can only improve from here. I couldn’t have done that like… a year ago, or let alone when I was even younger. You’re still in the fandom when I had to completely detach myself from it, and I’m really glad that you are as I’ve gotten this chance to know you. You’ve made mistakes and you’re aware of them, and I’m sure you’ll make many more as we all do, but I really totally 100% believe in you and your goodness that you’re so unsure about whether or not it even exists. Is it… really mom of me to see I see like, a lot of me in you, cause I do? I really do. Not all, but some, enough for me to think so time and time again.You have a lot of feelings and I’m glad to be another person you feel comfortable enough in sharing them w/ as you really really need that right now.  I??? have so much to say???? uh. Basically I’m always going to be in your corner and that’s that.
do i;
follow them: yea tho you followed first im p sure im glad :>
rp with them: no wtf not (because im slow)
want to rp with them: of course i do tf
ship their character with mine: The only reason it’s even a thought in my head is that a long time ago and Ouma did like the idea of them together and I had absoutely no idea why and I wanted to know, but I never got the chance to ask LMAO. I .. don’t see it, really, but I do see them being an incredible brotp once he stops pranking her all the time (doubtful) because unlike Gonta she would get mad at that once she catches on to his tricks.
what is my;
overall opinion: Really nice and fun, incredibly memey, please give cheri’s blogs a look and consider following as i would trade a lung for them or smth.
**Note: Mun’s answer are all to be completely honest. Don’t send url if you don’t want brutal honesty.
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