#in women's lives than every separatist febfem/polilez kam post on here
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gendercriticalthinking · 9 months ago
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(Before my rant, I have to point out how telling/revealing the OP's "satire" is with how she went about it. First of all, the whole concept of wanting to make fun of women who are learning about non-liberal feminism for the first time, or are in a relationship with men by choice: why? Strange idea. Unwell mentality. Over 13k likes for a woman mocking other women. And it's "feminist" somehow, because you're on "Level 5 Misandry" and think normies not even getting on Step 1 are inherently stupid or antifeminist or something. I'm getting ahead of myself.
But the super revealing part to me is that the satire isn't even correctly imitating the thing you claim to be mocking!!!
Women cannot practice 4B while being in a male relationship, yes, anyone who claims that is misinformed. [Which, btw, again, being misinformed is not something worth mocking!!! If you think it is, literally why would women want to learn about radical feminism if all they see from the community is you guys making fun of women who are trying to learn??? But again, I'm getting ahead of myself.]
The satirical woman being mocked here isn't even claiming to practice 4B though!!! You're literally just mocking the concept of women trying to learn about feminism, regardless of whether they even get anything wrong about it, and/or the concept of women being happy in their relationships with men, regardless of whether he's abusive.)
Every time I come back to this website of feels like there's another round of radfems on here showing their claimed female solidarity is on a razor-thin edge for "normie" women (if it exists at all).
How is your feminism for women or helping women if you view the vast majority of women as stupid/traitors/deserving of misogyny/the main cause of misogyny's perpetuation/etc??? You make fun of TRAs for sidelining all women by centering men in their "feminism," meanwhile you're sidelining all but a small handful of women you only know online (that you probably wouldn't get along with and would also sideline if you knew everything about them irl).
If you care more about hating men (and the women who love them) than meeting women where they're at*, your "feminist mindset" is just as male-centered as liberal feminism.
But thank you pillarsalt and women like you on here that are speaking up about it. It's upsetting it has to be said, and even more so that those of us saying it genuinely feel stressed/worried to do so, but those things are proof that it needs to happen. I and so many other women left the TRA community because we had serious concerns about it (especially regarding the treatment of women in it) that we knew were forbidden to ask about, and if you don't see the similarities here, and believe "well I actually care about women unlike TRAs so my feminism can never be misguided or misogynistic like theirs", then idk what to tell you.
I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to how the mindset of "the only guaranteed solution to male violence is having all women stop interacting with men period, and if they don't then the continuation of misogyny is their fault and any abuse they suffer is deserved" is not literally the same logic as "the only guaranteed way to prevent pregnancy is for women to never have sex with men period, and if they do and get pregnant then they need to carry the fetus to term because they need to suffer the consequences of their actions."
*Disclaimer I shouldn't need to have: I am not talking about women who directly cause and/or facilitate violence and abuse against other women and girls (and even then their actions, as well as their intentions/motivations and the scope of them, are not at all comparable to men doing the same). I'm talking about nearly every woman on Earth: women who have never heard of Atwood or Dworkin, women who hate having to keep up with the trappings femininity but hate the thought of not knowing who they are without it even more, all of the world's Jakeys' girlfriends. If your feminism doesn't care about most women, if your praxis involves mocking women in abusive relationships and women in happy ones and single women who want to date men alike, who the hell is it even for.
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Gonna be honest, maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. She's saying she supports 4B, not that she's somehow participating while still married to a man. You're all going to be very disappointed if you expect every normie hetero woman who learns about 4B to immediately get a divorce from the husband she obviously loves lol, no matter how corny and delusional you think she is about it.
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