#in short legally i'm not well versed but morally i condemn him and find the situation absurd
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renardtrickster · 3 years ago
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What's your overall opinion on the Kyle Rittenhouse case now that it's over? I think he should've rot in prison or gotten tge death sentence, personally
My take on the case is that Kittenhouse had his mom drive him from one state to another, grabbed a gun his friend bought for him, and then joined a vigilante/militia effort to protect a car dealership that he was not obligated to defend and had no reason to do so. He and the other LARPers then stood in front of the place of business which the protestors passed over, having successfully defended a car dealership. For some fucking reason, he then left the car dealership, followed the protestors, and then committed the 100% Legal Self Defense that he had probably purposefully sought out. The following statements can all be true at once.
One, even if you're a Blue Lives Matter probable Proud Boy who is open carrying at a counter-protest (among the many reasons wrong with this includes lack of discipline and organization, and the fact that open-carrying is cringe LARPy penis extension shit and CC is better), doesn't mean attacking you becomes legal. Although you can make the case (and bring up) that Grosskreutz and maybe Huber were acting in self-defense, because if I heard gunshots, saw a guy with a gun, and heard people shouting "he just shot someone", I would assume he just murdered someone and act accordingly. You can also argue that Rittenhouse had a gun and Rosenbaum was unarmed so running is infinitely more sensible than actually shooting. Ultimately, I'm not versed in legal-ese and I haven't been following the case that closely. I know there's some weird shit like the judge apparently acting like a sussy obstinate baka, or the "you can't say 'shooting victim' because referring to people who got shot as shooting victims biases the case, do call them looters and arsonists and pigfuckers though" ruling. And I think there was something absurd about "zooming in on a video counts as manipulating footage and thus can't be shown as evidence"? But legally, the self-defense case seems solid from what I am aware of.
Two, Kyle Rittenhouse is a dumbfuck conservative teenager who was seen hanging out with Proud Boys and flashing the OK sign in a bar, and whose branch is probably cut from the same tree of mentally ill right-wingers who blow their cash on "tacticool" gun gear as they fantasize about the day BLM snaps and begins "invading the suburbs" and ravaging "suburban" women, so they can fight back, becoming the vanguard and killing all the political undesirables while being able to morally withstand it by framing it through the act of self-defense. This event was the inevitable conclusion of our country's problem with right-wing militia-wannabees, and even as someone who's pro-gun the fact that Kyle was able to get his hands on a rifle and serve in a militia line that easily and with so little scrutiny is absurd.
Three, please shut up. "I think he should've gotten the death sentence" I think he's a little snot who's going to be turned into a icon by the culture war and Republican politicians in a few years, and I'm definitely not looking forward to the conservatives who are going to a) be endlessly smug about it forever and b) feel empowered by this. But at the same time, I still hold that neither the state nor prisons should be killing prisoners because life in prison is the most extreme and arguably worse punishment you can hand out, and "but we need to kill him" is ripe for abuse and mainly done out of some caveman-brained impulse to hurt whoever "wronged you" because an eye for an eye is totally a sensible policy guise. And I'm not going to renege on that position because now we're talking about some punk with a gun. If your feelings on Rittenhouse are deeper than "dagnab that kid my political lawn OOO", what you want from a Rittenhouse conviction is a few months in the clink to discourage other people from forming armed militia forces to defend property, then him getting rehabilitated into something more conducive to being-a-person-in-society than someone who buys into the "BLM literally burnt down the entire city it's all gone" memes and then acts on them, followed by making sure nothing like this ever happens again.
Four, and to lighten the mood, look at this meme.
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