#im sure the 'prosecute a witness' thing is just for game reasons

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Ace Attorney is a nightmare for me cause I know law but only _American_ law (and a little British, Canadian, and Mexican) so seeing how Japanese law is handled is killing me 😭 why are lawyers allowed to submit evidence in the middle of a trial why did they abolish juries why can you PROSECUTE THE WITNESS I'm going insane

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i wanted to thank you for your level-headedness about the sentencing yesterday. im sure we were all just ready for it to end, but if he does go ahead with the appeal, hopefully he will get a fairer hearing with a verdict that actually makes sense

Aww thank you! I appreciate that 💖 I hope so too, and if I may, I should take this opportunity to explain as best as I can why the verdict may have ended up like this despite how ridiculous it is.

Let me preface by saying that I’m not a lawyer, nor do I study law, and just like you all, I was in a state of shock and went through all sorts of emotions before overcoming it. But, I have a background in science, so I do like to ask questions and do my own research, and this is what I did to my dad who studied law in the past (he’s not a lawyer either but I guess there has always been this law influence in the family lol). This is my way of getting the most impartial answer possible from him, and I’ve done this alongside briefly researching and analysing current reports and articles which ended up supporting his points.

First, it’s worth pointing out that a military court is a completely different entity compared to a civil court and therefore is essentially a completely different ball game altogether. The reason being is that in military court, it’s not actually run by a judge as you would know, but a really high ranking military officer - a colonel usually. This was the case for that sentencing trial.

Original link:

https://eng.scourt.go.kr/eng/judiciary/introduction.jsp

Original link: https://businessmirror.com.ph/2021/08/13/verdict-former-bigbang-seungri-receives-3-year-sentence-in-prison/?fbclid=IwAR2vZaBVFbF2I_6wf6Wi6IuzmhGf6wkyah-xj_d9krFqyX0QazTMXIIolGM

However, what I’ve learnt recently is that in military court, they don’t see the grey areas unlike the civil court - they only see it as black and white. Strategically speaking, this is bad, because depending on the evidences presented, it becomes a make-or-break situation but amped up. This comes from the high influence of morality in the judicial system (Business Mirror also mentions this too in the article I linked) so when you consider what the general stance on issues such as prostitution and gambling are, you get this harsh realisation that they may have already formed a ‘bias’, but much worse if it were military court. This was likely why in spite of all the witnesses that ended up speaking in his favour, it ended up being disregarded in the end, because you also have to take into account that background checks would’ve been vigorously carried out beforehand, which would’ve included finding out their profession, and those things can be major red flags if said profession is not deemed ‘reputable’ (I mean this in the sense that say, if they find out one of them is a prostitute, their credibility is already questioned because of their pre-established stance, though I find this confusing because these witnesses were from prosecution’s side).

This leads into my next point - how did the prosecutors end up winning this? Well, as Business Mirror pointed out, it was mainly down to strategy, especially when you consider the nature of the military court. If you remember, the arrest warrant trials were done in front of civil court, so in front of a judge - and they were rejected twice. The fact that it took place in a military court meant that because of the reasons I mentioned before, the odds were already stacked against him, and the prosecutors may have used this to gain an advantage. As much as the defendant brought in evidence that clearly shows his innocence, this may not have been enough.

For this reason, my dad pointed out that SR should’ve just accepted the arrest warrant at the first instance. This is because if one gets arrested, that is essentially the shortcut to be tried in civil court, which would’ve been dealt with quickly. Arrest warrant is just a way of making sure he doesn’t escape. We know he wouldn’t, but this is strategy we’re talking about. As a result, there would’ve been some possible scenarios: if he ends up forced to go into conscription by then, the lawyer can explain to the judge why he couldn’t make it to trial, and they would’ve either allowed the lawyer to represent him, dismiss the case or have the civil court contact the military and ask them to have him be on trial via video conference etc. The fact that the arrest warrant got rejected twice may sound good, but then having to go into conscription is what made things get complicated and ended up stacked against him in military court.

So what does this mean going forward? Of course, there is a chance to appeal. And there is a reason why some people have said that the moment he appeals, is where he will likely win the case. That’s because should he appeal, the case will likely continue into High Court, which is a civil court, so it’s like starting again on an almost clean slate (though I have been also told that it may not be actually a High Court but High Military Court):

There is also the Supreme Court which is the last step, as it is the highest in court hierarchy, and that is also a civil court.

[quonit-aceattorney]

2.3 Reaction

Rules:

Q = Me, Quonit.

BF = Bardic Feline, the friend that made me spend 30 dollars on the game and whom I am messaging

I don’t use those when I send the messages close enough my username doesn’t appear.

Any typos (unless they are funny and part of the conversation) will be fixed.

Index

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(Direct continuation of 2.2 Reaction)

"Turnabout Big Top"

what

what is that name

what

pffft

Q: should I start it today or wait

BF: It’s a circus case Hahahaha

Q: oh my god I already love it

BF: Your client is hilarious, btw

Q: i wanna play it now

oh no there will me an acident here

why did he just clip though it

nvm

december 2017?

taking pearl to the circus why not

Q: wait am I raising this child now

I AM SATISFIED

BF: Yeah! The fourth case takes place in March of 2018

Q: NICE

march 20th is the first day

I still feel bad that I missed it

BF: Yep!

Q: on that day I was like "I will make art for this one day and I will pretend it is that day and say "well I bought ace attorney that day just to play that case"

BF: Lol it’s fine. The whole real world date thing was more of an in joke with the fandom

Q: joke how dare you

BF: Because when these games were released, this was the far off future!

Q: I for some reason may attention to timelines in shows haha AND NOW THE FUTURE IS HERE

I bet you thought I would like this case because I said I wanted to raise somebody and now I do

(hahahaha)

Q: it's been 6 months still nobody has told her "hey we aren't dating"

december 28th... a year sense I last saw edgy...

Q: ugh I'm going to have to help another one of your TV show people for the third case right Maya

he sounds like metteton

excuse me but I played Undertale first

ya he reminds me of metteton haha

Q: so he's never out of character

wonderful

Max is throwing cards everywhere who si going to pick it up

oh my god hahaha

Q: this guy is fun

Q: I can't go to any magic shows because they freak me out. "Okay but what is that person ACTUALLY DROWNS"

Q: hey i have the lying thing still

Phoenix has a tendency to copy other people's speech in this game

my attourny badge is being useful in this game

Me: Fabulous, but a jerk Me: Just like Mettaton! I should stop

BF: He is very Mettaton like though!

And lol yes the magatama is yours forever

Q: yessss

wait it goes through different games???

Can I examine the evidence again or did they remove that feature because I miss it

aww okay I'll help you

why did i just throw the ds what

Q: I've never been to the circus enterence how come I can see it

Q: crap i almost got mauled by a tiger

Q: 

Girl: :pops on screen: 

My immediate thought: I HATE you. 

Me: Why was that the first thing I thought

Q: I hate her apparently

Q: If your dad was killed then why are you so happy and willing to let me die

Q:

Phoenix: It's tough not to get charmed when she's looking at you with those eyes 

Those soul-piecing... evil... murderous eyes...

Q:

Regina: I'm worried by so many things right now!!! 

Ya sure

I'm being mean to these characters for fun it's fine

I don't see why so many people hate it yet

Q:

Maya: That's because everyone think's your cute! Regina: No... I'm not cute... you are!!! Using your charm to get these people under your control huh? Well it won't work on me! Wait crap me and Phoenix are different people

Q: 

Me: I need to get an opinion on edgy x phoenix 

Me: Crackship that I can make fun of 

Brain: alright time to avoid the fandom like the plague just like that other show you watched 

Alright now that that is done time for me to allow myself to make jokes about it

Q:

Maya: She seems to be a hit with the men in the circus! 

Phoenix: Ya she must have this weird special power over them! 

Me: Please let that last like me sarcasm and please don't be that dumb

Maya: Even I want to profess my love to her! 

FINALLY LESBIANS

Q:

now my next crackship: Maya and whoever this girl is. I like this girl 700x more because of that line.

i actually love this case

Q:

Maya: You may not know this, but that's called a ''tailcoat'' Phoenix: and you may not know this but this is the face of somebody who already knew that I am proud of phoenix

Q: this case is great

Q: why would people ever hate it

Q: We've got a human metteton and gays what more do you need

Q: Oh ya I forgot that in the majority of places it snows

finally gumshoe I was wondering where you were

Maya: Nick! Nick! He complained! Me: OH YA YOU'RE RIGHT THIS IS WEIRD

I forgot to tell you earlier but I decided that if Pearl is going to ship me and maya im going to ship her and cody

Q: they are both 8 at this point so

why would von karma take a case like this

whatever it's a funny idea

Gumshoe: What do you have to worry about? You only have to see her in court! at first I thought that was funny like he was making a joke and then I realized it's much worse than that

OH MY GOD WE'RE FINALLY BRINGING UP EDGEWORHT

THANK YOU MAYA

guys please :(

I miss edgy...

Gumshoe: Died out in the cold... pretty sad way to die if you ask me Me: The chickies... I'm sad now

Q: he needs a bunch of props to fly did the police really arrest him because they wanted to know how he flew

Q: Actually I made up a think with my brother earlier that could fit here 

Maya: Can't you just call edgeworth? 

Phoenix: all my of contacts were deleted, remember? 

Maya: ...I'm tempted to think that maybe that first case was you're fault so that later I wouldn't ask about edgy 

Phoenix: hahahaha :deletes contacts again: what a silly idea

BF: hahah

Q: I like this case hahaha

BF: good! I'll be interested to see how you feel after the first trial segment

Q: when I got the silk hat I immediately wondered how Phoenix would look in it and if he can weird it to court and then I thought "no what is wrong with me"

who is the witness that eyed

Q: you do know that the prosecution is the daughter of MANFRED VON KARMA, ONE OF THE TWO (or three if you count me) PEOPLE WHO RUINED EDGY'S LIFE

if it's no reason then we aso have no reason not to go in

so LET ME IN

SEE MAYA HAS THE RIGHT IDEA LET'S GO CHECK IT OUT

and then I run right over there

i am so happy that was an option

Q: "Funny jokes are funny"

I want that book

Q: NOW

Q: game adding more cartoon-y characters

HUH

if he was lying then the thing would saw so but nope the magic rock is quiet

BF: did you just meet Moe?

Q: sadly he wasn't in the room, so I went to the enterence and this guy is here. I don't have his name yet

ben

alright

i don't think he is going to talk to me :(

BF: ahaha he's got one of the punniest names in the case, Ben does

BF: Oh, he'll talk. you just gotta get him something

Q: BENJAMIN WOODMAN the ventriloquist guess he had no choice 

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also about that first case again me and my brother made another thing

BF: Oh?

hahaha you'll get the FULL pun when you find his dummy

Q:

Phoenix (with his amnesia): My name is Phoenix Wright? Geez... just hearing that I can think of 5 puns already... Are you sure that's my name?

Person he was defending (uhhh we'll call her G): Well when thinking about that does anymore of your memories come to mind?

PW: hmmm... I remember... this one girl that called me nick and I never was able to figure out what the pun was because I thought it was a pun

PW: MAYA there we go that girl 

PW: That was extremely effective!

Not as good but I think it's funny

NICKname maybe?

BF: hee

Q: wont respond to anything i present so why nto ask about the dummy you said it's name was funny

dammit nevermind

I'll go check on moe

Q: MOE IS HERE

wow what the heck

YOU'RE MAKING THE SCREEN SHAKE

why does his head have a mouth no i mean his forhead uhhh sure I want a grape why not

he seems happy with himself

if you object to it, you yell objection!

BF: that's part of his hat lol

Q: i know but why would he put one on his hat

i see there is a carrot in front of it... about about his clothes then?

I like Moe

BF: he's a clown. it's just sposed to look silly

Q: alright I accept this

I wasn't born with no sense of humor I was born with a different sense of humor

Q: Hey Moe please be on our side not the evil miss von karma the second vampire or Franz if you prefer

Q: Please Moe :(

oh my god

Phoenix no

Phoenix knows nothing

I think it was funny he just set it up wrong

PHOENIX THE GENERALLY RIGHT THOUGH PHOENIX IS SOMETIMES WRONG PHOENIX WRONG crap I'm having flashbacks from the April May case

okay but what about max i wanna know more

i need to sleep but this sace is too great

HONESTLY HOW COULD PEOPLE HATE IT

legit dying are you okay

Q: hey moe I found this bottle on the floor but it doesn't have blood on it

no? Moe? You don't wanna talk? Fine.

hey Max

I like all of these characters somehow

Q:

Max: Is Metteton Regina: proved to me that gays exist in this game and that both Maya and Phoenix are ones Moe: is a clown. Tries hard.

Q: wonder If I can get max to talk

oh boy three locks

Q: yaaaaay that was easier than I thought

Q: I mean everybody is in love with her, like we even got a lesbian right here to prove it.

BF: hahaha yes, lotta people wanting to confess to Regina in this case

Q: Max is a jerk but that just makes him more metteton Regina why don't you do what angel did have have like six different boyfriends at a ti- no don't do that please

Q: is trilo his dummy

Trilo Quist... give me a moment to figure out the pun

where is this puppet

aww thanks

hey that must be what we give to Ben to make him talk!

Q: crap i forgot where he told me i hid it

HE HIT IT

HID

Q: heeyyyy i found the puppet

Q: hey ben i stayed up 40 mins more to get you this damn thing

Q: and ben isn't even here dammit

well i gues you don't get your dummy back

heeeyyyy beeeen

how you beeeeen

(i think im funny)

yesss

Q: i like this dummy already

somebody wants me to test their ghost and i said ya despite me really needing to sleep

BF: the pun: say their names together.

BF:

Ben

Trilo

Quist.

Q: oh my god

hahahahahaha

Q: WHAT IF I CALL YOU MR.TRILLO IS THAT STILL FANCY ENOUGH FOR YOU

Q: "You 8-bit excuse for an attorney!" I am mildly offended! Also laughing!

Maya do you know what a ventriloquist is

Q: yaaaay i can talk to him

Q: hey mr trilo will you tell me or will you insult me

Q:

Maya: These two are a really odd couple Nick... more gay crackships yessss

well you all are frauds you're just all talented.

Q:

Trilo: The pay sucks, the (something i forgot) sucks,a nd my partner has his hand up my pants. Maya: you mean ben? Trilo: Yeah... The creepy old guy who never finds it in himself to leave me alone that's because you two are bffs

ohhh so Trilo was asking her out

Q: well max you should've hit the dummy and not ben then

Q:

Phoenix: I think I'm beginning to see why she seemed... troubled...

Phoenix who do you think should marry Regina I'm interested in your thoughts

Trilo: I don't care! It's my choice not hers!

Well I guess she shouldn't marry the dummy

BF: (Honestly, right now? None of them. She’s 16)

Q: oh boy

ya nobody mary her please

Trilo no

ya i didn't wannt hear the rest of that song anyways

Maya don't praise that song

Which one of us is buttface though

Q: Ya I don't like trilo

frick

BF: Don’t worry, it makes it satisfying to tear him apart on the witness stand

Q: Though if the dummy goes that means that Franz is gonna hurt him with her whip so I'm fine with that

yesssss

monkeeyyyyy please don't hurt phoenix

NO

NOT THE BADGE

ANYTHING BUT THE BADGE

WITHOUT THE BADGE...

Q: I AM NOTHING

REGINA PLEASE HELP ME D;

i need my badge though DDD:

my badge isn't even that shiny!!

Maya how can you be pleased at this I need my badge!!!

Moe please i need my badge

but about trilo: Please don't marry him he sucks

Q: 

Regina: How about you Maya??? Maya: Huh What? Me: She's asking if you're going to propose too

I feel bad for gumshoe :(

Moe I need my badge :(

Q:

Moe: Regina is a pure, innocent child Me: I feel so bad for her --- Maya: she's such a cutie too Me: Feed the ship feed the ship feed the ship

this case is funny

Q: The more i hear about her the more I want her to leave the circus

thank you moe

Q: why is phoenix so wiped after two flights of stairs? Oh it's because they don't teleport they have to walk everywhere I send them too well they're getting a lot of exercise at least

my baaadge i missed you so much

T to R = Trilo to Regina

saaave pooiiiint

Q: Well with what other crazy s*** they do allow in court sure you can fly

Q:

Max: I can imagine it now: The dashing young lawyer flying around to courtroom, and immediately everybody is on his side! Me: I'm touched by your kind words, but sadly I cannot fly

Q: See Phoenix and i are on the same page :D

Q:

Franz: That spirit channeling trial was a shame! You're a shame

I mean you did lose last time so

and so did your dad

screw you dad

Q: Franz no matter how hard you try your dad will always be a shame, your last name will always be a shame, and so will the majority of prosecutors. You still have a chance to not be a shame though... but you are right now.

Q: ya but why was there footprints

what was in the box

if he was killed somewhere else why are there footprints

this is the most hated case and I remember you saying that you get punished if you press too hard on some things so I will save a lot (CHEATER!)

Q: well this is a circus and a famous joke is that pepper makes you sneeze so maybe it has something to do with that?

Q: Franz you suck

hey trilo i hate you

more than franz actually!!!

That is a really big acomplishment!!!

Q: we've had cases where people frame the others by wearing their clothes, in fact the last one was!

BF: Oh, no, it's not if you press too HARD

Q:

Judge: You're prosecution skills are unrivaled 

Me: OH WELL EXCUSE ME

ah okay

BF: there is a cross examination where if you press the wrong statement at all you get a penalty.

Q: crap

BF: so you can't just press everything without risking damage

Q: well I need to look out for that

BF: You'll know which one it is when you get to it. the game is kind enough to warn you.

Q: thank you game

Q: I'm not talking to a brick wall I'm talking to a wriggling piece of plywood

NO NOT YET MAX

Q: Not just this defendant, but max and everybody else as well!

Q: huh the puppet exploded without any of Franz help

Q: finally she hits him with the whip

Q:

Trilo: What's the matter?! You think that humans have a monopoly on marriage?! yes

Q:

Judge: i guess you're right... Just because I'm old doesn't mean I can't propose to her too Me: yes it does please stop

Q: why does the dummy keep hitting pen

ben

Q: I am glad the puppet is suffering

Q: YESSS Franz hit the puppet with the whip and he exploded

Q: saaave poooiiiint

I should take a little break I guess

Q: he would want to frame you because he didn't want to give you the big check, maybe it was even suicide because he couldn't pay the other workers

I was drawing all of these without references so I decided to draw maya

phoenix go away

sometimes the game is like this

fite me

that's all of the doodles haha

Hi moe why are you sad

Q: I feel bad for moe

BF: hee hee hee

poor Phoenix

Q: I had fun drawing them poor phoenix indeed

Q: but that is how 1.5 felt like haha. Maya left, at the end Edgy left, Ema was being mean, Lana was making ti difficult, Gant betrayed me, so-on

nobody gave me credit for my ideas either it was sad

Q: moe I'm sorry but we're talking about the murder

BF: to be fair, Maya was prevented by the actual plot from being there hahah. Remember, 1-5 was not in the original GBA version of the game; it was added later for the DS port, AFTER the third game had already come out

and the set timeline went that Phoenix doesn't see Maya in person again until 2-2, which takes places BEFORE 2-1.

so the only way for 1-5 to fit the existing continuity at all was to have a case where Maya was absent...which worked out well for us because it forced them to make Ema to fill in for her.

Q: I feel really bad for gumshoe 

true! I can give Maya that excuse, she was fine.

"And why did we put 2-2 before 2-1? For the people who didn't play the first game!" 

dammit I wanna see edgy again I miss him

BF: haha just be patient. He'll show up when you least expect it.

Q: :D

Q: Oh no I need to be carful on this one

Q: time to save a lot and be very picky about what I press about

...I guess it's weird he looked out his window for no reason

save

how did this get here

:D I think I'm on the right track with the window thing!

Q: and now the last statement doesn't make sense because--

yes I do miss vampire the second

Q: hmmm

time to save again

hmmm

wait his cloak isn't black!

Q: and the roses but from the angle he said he saw Max it i didn't think that was important enough whatever

Q: Hey edgy while you were gone I made the guy-who's-name-shall-not-be-mentioned's daughter suffer are you proud of me 

I miss him :(

Q: if he was mature then why would he be a clown

Q: no pressing at all? dammit

Q: time to save

if he was wearing it the whole time then why was it there dammit I don't know if that is actually what the game wants me to think I've been lucky so far and I just saved so why not

:D

I should fail soon i know it

Q: Stop being so mean to Moe it's the dummy's fualt

DID HE BY ANY CHANCE FLY

HE COULDN'T HAVE WALKED BECAUSE THERE WERE NO FOOTPRINTS >:(

frick i can't save when evidence is up

the photo please work photo

Q:

Franz: That's not funny! 

Me: It kinda is though...

Q: geez uh

all of these options are not what I am thinking

I can save though!

Q:

Max: I know you didn't mean to ask such a fabulously stupid question but I can't fly whenever I please, it's not that easy! 

That's what I've been saying!

saaave poiiiiint

I still don't get why people hate this case so much

Q: maybe that's just because of how lucky i was when talking to moe

people get game overs and then finally are able to finish it and then his entire testimony is complely disregarded

BF: hahah it's a matter of personal taste, obviously. :3 Plenty of people thing Moe is annoying (he grew on me) and/or didn't like Ben (that's more understandable) for instance

BF: there's the frustration of Moe's cross examination, the fact that this case doesn't seem as CONNECTED to the rest of the game, and there's one other thing that I can't get into without spoiling the end.

BF: Though, for the record, said thing is what I think makes this case stand out in an interesting way.

(and is also the thing that thematically ties it to the other two main cases, though I can't say why.)

Q: It probably is. For all of the characters I can see why people would hate them. Max is a jerk, Regina is being hit on by everyone but she is 16, Ben is boring and the dummy is annoying and terrible, and Moe is annoying and unhelpful in their opinions just save over and over again it'll be fine It is a good point but not everything has to be about story I wonder if I will like the thing at the end hey so it is connected anyways!

BF: BASICALLY It's just a lot of Game 2 as a whole being seen as somewhat lesser for not being as deeply interconnected as the first or the third game, but I think the word about how disliked it is tends to get a touch overblown.

I think Moe more than makes up for his annoying habits by the end hahah

Q: ah. Well I like this game, and I really wanna play farwell my turnabout interesting!

BF: and I'm divided on Ben for a few reasons

Q: I am too... I mean, the dummy is terrible and Ben is too quiet but Ben is controlling the dummy but everyone here is too invested in their careers and- eh

BF: I love Max unconditionally hahha. He's ridiculous and over the top because he's designed to be that way, but there's definitely more to him than you see at first.

Q: Maya don't give it back please why did you do that

Q: there is I like max

Q:

Trilo: Waiting like this is a part of being in love! 

Me: Ya like waiting 60 minuets to send another text and trying to leave the conversation as fast as possible resulting in you not getting to talk to the person you wanna talk to. 

Trilo this is dumb.

Q:

Max: Why would I be friends with a bunch of bozos like them! 

Me: so that they don't frame you for murder of course

Q: gummy!!!

I feel bad for you do you want a hug

Q: gummy thank you :D

Also what the heck do you mean by she's right above us what

I havn't heard of this acrobat so far

oh wait i have

he's friends with the monkey that stole my precious

Q: we're going up into that room

but this time

we'll taze her

while screaming REGEEENGGGEEE as we steal something important from her

no? Fine...

Q: OH HI MOE

Q:

Phoenix: I wouldn't mind hearing more about Max's bust... not that I'm into that sort of thing... 

Phoenix it's fine we already knew you were gay 

this crackship amuses me endlessly

oh my god that is actually a conversation topic now

it is pretty cool though!!!

maybe we can get edgy to pay for i-OH WAIT HE'S NOT HERE

Q: Ya because I totally wanted to garden in 100 degree heat for two hours at a place I dislike with people I dislike.

Oh ya we hit 100 today wooo

also the car was overheating so I had to stop a lot and spend money on ani freeze and have the heaters on so I was boiling and upset and out of money6

whatever playing 2.3 should help

the image I've been waiting for

BF: Lol, to be fair, those are clearly Mia’s boobs when Maya channels her, but Maya’s CLOTHES don’t change with the rest of her.

The real question is why Pearl’s outfit doesn’t throttle her.

Q: EXACTLY

Q: THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING

So either the clothes do change or Pearl is the exception. Either way she should at lease try

Also another conversation im drawing right now

BF: Not exactly an exception though, given the fact that the only thing that keeps Mia from flashing the world when Pearl channels her is the fact that she keeps her arms crossed the entire time...

Cause if anything she’s showing twice as much cleavage in that form.

Q: well at least that is good good job mia

Q: very true. 

PW: Hey Maya 

M: What is it? 

PW: Do you wanna go clothes shopping? 

M: What? Why? I like these robes and I need to wear them 

PW: It's just that you're starting to grow out of them is all! We need to get some bigger clothes 

:They get bigger robes: 

:later: 

Mia: Hi agai- 

PW: I got Maya some bigger robes so that maybe when you possessed her you could finally cover your rack I wasted 400$ on those please don't make it all for nothing 

Mia: ...

Q: Alright so I opened the game I'm back at the thing and i forgot what i did

I have a note okay

uhhh I also have the bust

Q: hey Billy Bob Jones do you wanna talk more about your bust

Q: also why do people call the clown moe when his name is Lawrence

i knew we should've taken the baby we noticed in the tailcoat

Q: PAPER

how did i say baby instead of paper

Q: hi gum shoe

crap whos phone is ringing

do you have like a metal detector thing for her

hey how dare you whip Maya out of court

jerk

Q:

Franz: Tomorrow will be the day! The day my dreams finally come true! 

Me: I should be scared of you but because I'm know I can respond with sarcastic retorts.

oh boy i actually get to talk to her

:o

BF: Lol okay the pun with Moe’s name: his real name Lawrence CURLS. His stage name is Moe. And a nickname for Lawrence is Larry. And the names of the original three Stooges? Larry, Curly, and Moe!

BF: Also could be a vague callback to case two, where you had the sisters Ini and Mimi Miney...

Q: ohhhh okay!

BF: Eenie Meenie Miney Moe lD

Q: oh my god hahahahaha This game loves name puns

BF: Oh it loves them soooo much you have no idea. XD and they get way the heck more blatant in later games

Q: pffft

Q: I CAN'T WAIT

BF: Though how blatant they are in the English localization are all down to April May’s name. Once they did her and had her working for Redd White of Bluecorp...

Q: I remember that case, the entire time I was telling my brother "It was the white guy I know it" --- Franz can you like acknowledge your dad was a huge [long strong of strong swear words] please?

WHAT DID EDGY DO TO YOU

Hey Franz we could be best friends if you bring him back for me

Franz it isn't my fault it's your dad's and the other guy's fualt

HE ISN'T DEAD >:(

"He never set his foot in court again" The bonus level man

ya me niether Franz it's a blatent lie because of the bunus level

Phoenix is heart broken :(

BF: Hahaha well it was kind of retconned so that she was talking about the bonus level, but I admit it was pretty clumsily inserted in points

And yeah, poor Nick :/

Q: poor phoenix indeed...

Q: hi acrobat Phoenix is heartbroken can you cheer him up

Aww Acro

why not doodle why do I draw

ringmaster seems like a nice guy :(

Q: 

Acro: Truly a princess.. Are you sure that's a good thing? Exactly!

LIAR

Q: Oh hey Regina is back

Q: I like to think that the things in parentheses are what Phoenix is thinking but how come people can marry him

HEAR

WHAT THE HELL

im having a hard time thinking ugh

uh

but what if i don't wanna get the costume

though it seems like Maya only hears him.

Q: oh no i found the monkey

uh

Q: i got the vest yay

Q: maybe Franz would want it Hey Franz here is an apology gift for something I didn't do

Q: I hate burgers

Q: awww Moe is a good person

Q: ugh

"What do you mean when you say I when playing this game" I mean me, or I mean me as Phoenix. Usually the second.

Q: ugh

Q: nevermind back to game, i talked to Moe about Acro and Bat.

I feel bad for Bat even if that was idiotic

Q: Franz no we're upset and Acro is upset you're not allowed here.

Q: Regina I'm starting to hate you again

but whatever the tradition of A Von Karma stealing something very important to me has continued. SUFFER

LOTS OF MILK FOR MAX

dangit Phoenix I can't save on the evidence page though!!

Q: you call me a fool and you're the one wearing ridiculous shoulder pads. I mean, Phoenix probably has some too but they don't look stupid.

hey Franz do nto bring up personal issues into court please

Q: you might not have been able to see as well because it was snowing

? i dunno

crap uh i dunno

and I can't save either

dammit

now I'll be stuck at this page forever

...leap of faith?

well the silk hat is a problem for me still... so...

how???

This case should cause me more touble I know it

Q: Franz please don't talk about Edgy this isn't the time if you do I will commit suicide and frame you for murder. If it doesn't work and they figure it out, at least my message will get across that I miss edgy.

hey i can save yesss

Q: 

Franz: You're honor, do not allow yourself to be swayed by theatrics Me: You're honor, do not allow the f***ing whip in court, once that is settled, I will stop.

peck peck everybody hates me in this case now dammit even the brids hate me

Now this sounds like 2016

Q: i haven't been penalized yet so maybe I'm on the right track?

Q: the bust!

WHERE IS THE BUST

SHIT IT'S NOT IN MY EVIDENCE

oh my god it is i was really scared

Q: oww stop hitting me

Q: is there ever a time where we don't decide to cross examine

Q: I'm failing a bunch do not worry

Q: WHIPPING MAKES ME NOT WANNA LISTEN TO YOU

LALALALA I DON'T HEAR YOU

Q: interesting! When I failed I didn't need to use the save point

Q: oh so now acro can hear my thoughts from across the room

Q: game already let me go with far I must be right

uhhh

hey the monkey!!!

Is the monkley even that strong

Q: probably look at the other stuff it had

Q: pfft I think it's funny how her insult's are a child's

"MORON"

Q: the clown didn't see him, he saw a silhouette and his hat

hey!!!

Q: I like how Franz it's evil she just hates me

but indeed, it was the bust and nobody will argue with me >:3

and if they do it doesn't mean anything because it's Franz who is arguing

Q: phoenix please explain to me what happened im confused

Q: I have an idea of the motive.

Franz: In this court, only two things matter. The power of evidence and the power of my whip. Me: SOMEBODY PLEASE GET THAT WHIP AWAY FROM HER.

save now before it goes to the evidence screem

Q: wooo

Q: thought he killed max

okay save point

hi gumshoe!!!

Q: poor phoenix

"Why do you refuse to call him nick" Because I don't get it!!!

Q: frick should i cross examine i feel like that's waist time

whatever I can save

Q: I can't provide one because he didn't want the ringmaster to died he wanted Max to die

Q: hmmm

actually

Q: They want me to think it was max

didn't they

well franz

IM GOING TO DO SOMETHING UNEXPECTED

AND ALSO EXPLAIN WHY THERE WAS PEPPER IN THE BOX

IT WAS REGINA >:D

Gummy thank you

you influenced this decition

which may be better

i am right I knew it >:D

Q: Franz: The only thing that shall interrupt me is death itself!

YOU KNOW WHAT this will be my new catch phrase I need to get better and not being sorry because I said something

Q: foolishness is contagious

must've got it from you

Q: I'm not bluffing

...mostly...

actually i just need to remember what is going on i took a break for lunch

the pepper there we go

Q: I am very happy that I'm finally on the same track as Phoenix :D

Q: I am on the same track as him I know what I am talking about >:3

Q: the scarf probably has something on it

that the lion would want to eat

Regina gave it to him on the same day that the accident happened

Q: she must've knows he was gonna ask her out

and so she killed him???

lions sneeze.

FRANZ YOU'RE WRONG AND I BELIEVE IN MY THEORY

Q: I really don't want Acro to get arrested though... he's a good guy

Q: nooo i don't wanna go into investigation again

so i won't

Q: at least I saved

EXCACTLY HOLD IT

I THINK FRANZ HAS IT

HIDING EVIDENCE

SO THAT I WON'T WIN

I KNOW IT

and I'm not afraid to not save, I know it.

But noooo she wouldn't ahve it with her

SHE WANTS ME TO THINK THAT

Q: IT SEEMS MY HATRED FOR THE VON KARMA FAMILY HAS BESTED THEM

Q: ONE MORE

TIME

Q: You also made the mistake of blaming me for Edgy's supposed suicide that didn't happen

I am very angry about that

Q: he's crying...

I'm so sad

WOW I ALMOST STARTED CRYING

PLEASE DON'T HURT HIM

Franz: I'm... An... Idiot... Finally, I was waiting for you to say that

Q: Regina, it is time for you to learn about the real world.

Q: :)

Q: i like moe

he really is a good person

Q: all of these people are great :(

WHY WOULD PEOPLE EVER HATE THIS

So are we seeing things from Franz' perspective...

EDGY

EDGY EDGY EDGY

EDGY

EDGY

Q: EDGYYYY

NO

AHH

EDGY

I HAVE UNLOCKED FAWWELL MY TURNABOUT

YES

I AM VERY HAPPY

INDEED

I MISSED HIM SO MUCH

AND NOW THIS THING IS HERE AND IT THE ONE WITH EDGY AND THE CASE I SPENT 30$ ON THIS GAME FOR

Q: YESSSS

why is he wearing blue though

he is purple!

Q: i really wanna play it :(

Q: [my brother] said that if I help him finish turnabout samurai he will let me get it >:D

i love him dammit

BF: hah!

and yessssss WILL

Q: why is he blue though that's phoenix' color

Q: whatever

BF: Juan?

Q: no Edgy

why is he blue now

BF: Oh, in the portrait for the case?

Q: nono at the end cutscene

BF: or what he's wearing at the end of...ah

Q: THE ENDING SCENE ON 2.3

THERE WAS A PLANE AND GUMSHOE AND EDGY

BF: don't worry about that so much.

that's just like an overcoat or something.

Q: so I can still use purple when doodling him?

Q: ya

alright

but yay 2-4!! and my broither won't let me play it!!

and he's only halfway done with 1-3!!!

BF: hahah oh nooooo

Q: helping my bro speedrun, i bookmarked the old tutorial (i don't use a one for the second game) so that I could help him

BF: so what did you think of the 2-3 twist? I sorta kinda fell asleep while you were getting through the later parts hahah

Q: pfft

I thought it was sad I ended up actually almost crying

BF: WASN'T IT

Q: I didn't wanna get the guy in jail i like him

and then he cired

and now im sad

BUT THEN I SAW EDGY

AND STARTED YELLING

BF: Right? Acro was as much a victim as anyone

Q: and now he's going to jail...

:(

BF: at least it's implied that Edgeworth is going to work to get his sentence reduced or modified or something in consideration of his circumstances

Q: edgy you made phoenix think he made you commit suicide

BF: I mean HE DID try to kill a dangerously innocent girl (and kill someone else in the process), so he can't exactly get off scott free, but

hahah Zarla super >:( at Edeworth about that little stunt, but she's not the biggest Edgeworth fan

Q: ya... :( I still feel bad for him though

WELL I AM for some reason

Q: I like characters for little pieces of stupid dialogue and there was a lot of that with edgy AND THEN THE CASE WHERE WE DEFEND HIM that was FULL of those. So that is why I like Edgy I bet.

I was set out to hate Regina until that dialogue about Maya wanting to propose to her came up!!! it's stuff like that!!!

There I justified my liking of the character now I can stop

BF: hahahah nah no I totally get where you are coming from.

and you don't have to justify like or not liking characters to me hhaah. (I say knowing full well I am compelled to do JUST THAT.)

sometimes characters just click or don't click with you for the most random reasons

I've had some that I hated irrationally for a while and then later did 180s on so...logic is weird.

Q: Thanks! I have trouble with that... Talking about my opinions without feeling I need to justify them. Thanks!

CHARACTER LIKING IS WEIRD! At first I didn't like Jockey very much because her color scheme looked too off in the animation "I've Learnt Too Much I have gone Mad" (I call it JA (for Jockey Animation) for short)... though that's just has to do with not knowing enough about the character. Though I have a few other examples of  it just being "THAT ONE THING CHANGED MY MIND". It happens a lot.

Q: doodling more ace attorney because of course

(This leads directly into my reaction to 2-4)