#if they were going for a villainous dad they should have introduced Ty Lee's dad

[swan2swan]

"Okay, but in the Avatar comics--"

In the Avatar comics, Mai's father is plotting against Zuko to bring Ozai back to the throne while his daughter is first in line to produce the next heir to the throne. The man is a proposal away from having his name on the Royal Family Tree, and you want me to believe that he's going to be trying to restore the guy who probably wanted him executed for failing to keep King Bumi imprisoned, let alone keeping the city of New Ozai, the one with his name on it, under control?

Where's the political savvy? Where's the logic?

"Oh, but Mai broke up with--"

Then have him trying to push her back. Make THAT the story. "Daughter, are you OUT OF YOUR MIND?!?!? Your whole family is counting on this!!! Don't you love us? Didn't we raise you for this? You can sit on the throne! You'll never have to work a day in your life! You'll be the most important name in the family legacy! Why would you leave him?"

So, yeah, I just...don't have a lot of respect for them.

[zvtara-was-never-canon]

Your thoughts on Azula/Tyzula haters saying Azula only apologized to Ty Lee at the party because she didn't want her to "make a scene in front of everyone"?

"The girl that turned a ball into a nuke during a game and then wrecked a boy's house because he rejected her did not want to make a scene" Bruh.

And Azula did not just apologize - which is already one hell of a big deal from someone like her - she admited she was jealous of her friend and insecure about her complete inability to properly flirt with a guy without scaring him away.

If Azula was only worried about not causing a scene, she'd have stopped at the "I didn't mean it" or by ordering Ty Lee to stop being dramatic. Instead the animators make her look far more gentle, Grey made her sound genuinely apologetic, and the writting itself makes Azula let herself be vulnerable for a moment.

Hell, The Beach has her be vulnerable MANY times. The whole point of the episode is "Ember Island reveals your true self."

And what is Azula's true self? A princess that fully believes everyone should worship the ground she walks on, yet decides, of her own free will, to see if people would still like her if she was just a regular girl. A child soldier that thrives on anything regarding war, but was left with no socials skills because all she knows is war and no longer knows how to exist outside of it.

Someone that is both very arrogant and deeply insecure, to the point that she WILL lash out at others, either verbally or by literally destroying their home, because her feelings were hurt somehow - yet can sometimes regret doing that.

A girl that is upset due to thinking her mother didn't love her, yet tries to surpress that pain as much as possible. Someone who will go check on her sibling, try to get him out of a depressing place, and genuinely push him to ask himself what is making him so angry because she does care, but will still call him pathetic for having doubts on if he is doing the right thing and being visibly traumatized by the actions of their father.

No one is obligated to like her as a character, or want her to be redeemed, but to claim that any moment in which she shows she's not completely evil is just an act because "Azula always lies" is absolutely ridiculous because:

1 - NOBODY lies 100% of the time, not even pathological liars - especially not in a fictional story, because it's guaranteed to make it boring.

2 - The "Azula always lies" line is introduced to us when Zuko doesn't want to believe his dad agreed to murder him - which Ozai himself admits was indeed true. "Azula always lies" is not a rule, it's, ironically, a lie Zuko told himself when his sister was using a horrible truth to mess with his head.

3 - Once again, the whole point of The Beach is "We are seeing who these four characters REALLY are" - and regardless of what fans like or dislike, Azula is a complex person that is capable of being both terrible and not that bad, a tormentor and a victim, cruel and compassionate, a scary villain you shouldn't mess with and just a child that is trapped in an awful situation and sees no way out.