#i'm really very very VERY firm about my thoughts on her characterization/aesthetic/etc and i will not move on these

[xmenvevo]

something that bothers me a lot about post-80s rogue is that for most of that time, unless claremont is writing her she loses all her dirtrock punky alt girl energy and she’s just some variation of xmen tas yeehaw southern thottie which is like.... yes this is also rogue....but it’s not all of her and a HUGE part of her that people love to not get into in comics and adaptations (save evo my beloved) is that she’s a freak, she’s a weirdo. she’s ROGUE.

like it’s not just a edgy codename it’s very much a warning label. she is rogue, she’s a loose canon, she’s out there on the edge and she’s gonna do what she’d gonna fucking do so eat shit if that’s not what you wanted. she’s both an outsider because of her actions and because even within the xmen she’s on the “cannot pass” list. and also the shit list.

i really do not like a lot of 90s-00s rogue content. i don’t like a lotta modern rogue content. mainly because i think a lot of people forget that she was raised by MYSTIQUE AND DESTINY, STALKED AND ATTEMPTED TO MURDER DAZZLER and was just generally out here being an absolute raging psycho and like.... NEVER LOST THAT CAPACITY and how these things are a part of her and they effect her thinking and her character to this day.

like in axis they have her trying to sTOP??? MAGNETO???? FROM KILLING A NAZI???????? WHO JUST TRIED TO PUT THEM ALL IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP????? they literally have her condemn him for killing the red skull and i’m sitting here like “you can’t tell me that mystique’s daughter who’s already Killed People and one of those on tv is telling MAGNETO OF ALL PEOPLE he’s wrong for doing this” like shit lbr she’d’ve handed him the rock.

something that forever irks me is how in the comics there’s very little work to actually integrate her into the gang she just is pals with people. people like nightcrawler and storm who dead ass looked in her face when she was 17 and told her to fucking choke when she came begging them for help. some of that gets smoothed over when she tries to basically commit suicide by bad guy saving logan’s wife but then we lose all the progress between her and the aussie era xmen team at least when they brush off her sa in genosha and carol stealing her body and robbing her of her autonomy. she’s literally weeping and storm tells her she deserves to die then all the girls take carol on a shopping spree. and then in later 00s comics storm’s calling her anna marie!!!!! fuck you!!! that’s not earned!!!! we did not ever see storm apologize for treating a late teen/young woman she was in charge of like that. how can you expect me to accept this relationship when you do not show me them healing from this??? bc i’d really like!!!!! to not black out with rage over this!!!!! i wanna enjoy their interactions!!!!

there’s several other places like this where it’s just-- yall the work is not there... it’s not..... i don’t like how rogue gets handled sm.... she’s not a southern belle bombshell...... she’s the girl from the wrong side of the tracks. she listens to heavy metal and gets in bar fights. when she loses her powers, she gets a full fucking arm sleeve (which i’m STILL bitter is gone) and opens up a fucking motorcycle repair shop.......

okay this is getting too long and it’s GENUINELY incomprehensible because i actually have a LOT of thoughts about this shit and they all go all over. i’ll probably do some like.... actual posts with panels and issues and things so i can better explain my issues with how rogue gets handled bc i love her and i want her to be punk rock again so bad