#i'm not trying to say that ford is unflawed
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I honestly have never understood why this line is so hated. I have seen people use it to villainize Ford. I would like to say that I agree with all of your points. It was completely wrong for him to project his relationship with his brother onto Dipper. He definitely has convinced himself that his and Stan's relationship has always been bad.
We don't know much about how it was in the past. However, it seems that they were always grouped together as a pair. It was always Stan and Ford. Additionally, Stan gives off codependency vibes during the incident, while at the same time, Ford seems very independent. He has zero issues with the prospect of going to a university across the country.
I believe that this dynamic probably caused some issues. While I doubt teenage Ford thought of their relationship as suffocating, I'm sure he got annoyed and/or frustrated at times. He was never seen as his own person; he was just part of a pair. Stan probably loved it, maybe even encouraged it. Remember, it is not wrong to want to be your own person!
Again, I'm not saying that it was right in any way for Ford to say this. At least not to Dipper. This is very much a conversation he needs to have with Stan. What I'm trying to say is that I believe that there is a valid basis and some truth behind that statement and shouldn't be judged point blank.
I think so much about Ford's line "And isn't it suffocating?" when Dipper says he's never been away from Mabel. Side barring how insane it is to project onto a twelve yr old boy, I think it really shows how Ford's perception of his and Stan's relationship has perverted over the forty years they were apart. We know they were close at Mabel and Dipper's age. But Ford's convinced himself that it was always bad, that his brother always had poor intent for him, always held him back, because if that's wrong, if his brother really did make a mistake, then it means he doubted the brother that loved him and he loved in turn.
#i'm not trying to say that ford is unflawed#he is incredibly flawed#but that doesn't mean he's a bad person#look#he and stan had a fight#he was frustrated and understandably so#however#he didn't really have an opportunity to actually talk with stan for a long while#we know that filbrick was bad father#he 100% influenced how ford thought about things#and then he would hear about stories and rumors about stan#reinforcing the beliefs that filbrick had given him#and THEN#bill comes along and double downs on what his father has taught him#and once again#i'm not excusing what ford has done#i'm not trying to say that he wasn't accountable for his actions#but holy shit guys#people are COMPLICATED#please for the love of god read about humanism#it's a psychological approach and something i believe everyone should know about#it just#annoys me when people are like#“oh my god he's awful for thinking like that”#like yeah it's definitely harsh#but that doesn't mean that it's wrong for ford to have wanted his own life??#it was wrong for him to say that but that doesn't mean his feelings are invalid??#also sorry op for rambling on your post#i'm not even really commenting on what you said 😭#unrelated but i can write an essay on how filbrick has horribly affected both twin's mindsets
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