#i'm just saying that her understanding of ferdinand's actions are very logical and makes sense
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isekyaaa Ā· 1 year ago
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While Rozemyne is a dense doofus, I do get the concept of doing something you perceive to be very logical and reasonable with someone else and then having literally everyone assume it's romantic.
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msbluebell Ā· 5 years ago
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Hello, I'm the same anon talking about the Captured AU. Sorry about that, I'm not accusing you of making Edelgard a Yandere when I sent the ask, I may come off as oversimplifying Edelgard's character with that but the Captured AU where Edelgard amplified her controlling tendencies just... gave off that impression to me, so, again, I apologize. And part of me can't see Edelgard doing that, as much as I'm aware that it's an AU, since even if her methods are questionable, she still gave (1/2)
the rest of the Eagles a choice to whether or not they will fight with her or not. And even in non-Black eagles routes, she gave Petra a choice to whether or not she will help her if you recruit Petra. So even with all her controlling tendencies, I was on the belief that Edelgard still gave people a choice, no matter how little they might be. Edelgard's methods are NOT okay, but I just can't see her having her controlling tendencies amplified like the AU did. (2/2)Listen, Iā€™m not mad at you. Youā€™re allowed to not like something, and youā€™e allowed to criticize something, and youā€™re allowed to even think actively bad things about something.
You and I? We donā€™t agree on Edelgardā€™s character and thatā€™s the bare bones of it.
Iā€™m really, really, tired of trying to defend my view on Edelgard, or this stupid AU I made that got me so much hate from different anons (not you, I assume). I donā€™t even like her character, so itā€™s exhausting to keep repeating my views of her over and over. So, right here, right now, Iā€™m using your argument less to argue about my AU, and more to put my final foot down on my feelings on Edelgard, what I think sheā€™d do, and how I feel about her. So sorry about that.
I completely, totally, undeniably believe Edelgard absolutely would lock up Byleth in a tower for five years if given the option. Thatā€™s not even something I questioned when writing this AU. I think sheā€™s ruthless enough to do it, I think sheā€™s got the sense of compassion to want to do it, and I think she has the moral self-superiority to think sheā€™s right for doing so.
This is the girl that was staged a bandit attack in order to assassinate her two fellow House Leaders, both of whom are underage like her. This is the girl that blackmailed Lorenz into siding with the Empire, this is the girl that is invading all of Fodlan in order to tear down the system and rebuild it the way she thinks is right, this is the girl that used Bernadetta as bait in a trap on Gronder Field in every route not Black Eagles. This is the girl that is possibly blackmailing Ferdinand. Her willingness to commit atrocities in the name of her ambition is what gets the other three factions of the game to paint her as evil. And, eespite loathing the methods of TWSITD, she is shown to actively aid them with their experiments by collecting Crest Stones for them to use to turn innocents into Demonic Beasts with her assault on the Holy Tomb. She also explicitly gave them the Death Knight, who then helps them kidnap Flayn for more experiments. She obsessed with control to the point that itā€™s listed in her bio, and the only time she lets up on any of these qualities is when Byleth is actively playing her morality pet in the Crimson Flower Route.
And thatā€™s not even going into the fact that she justifies all these actions by theĀ ā€œI Did What I Had To Doā€ logic.
So, yes, with all the criticism you may think I hate her.
No.
I dislike her, but I understand and appreciate that sheā€™s also a kind, compassionate, woman that is actively trying to make her homeland a better play the only way she knows how. Sheā€™s working on only half the actual facts, much like Dimitri, and like him sheā€™s attacking the wrong people because she came to a wrong conclusion based on only half given facts. She legitimately does believe that playing the tyrant now is going to save a lot of people in the future, and itā€™s a genuine character flaw of hers that she overlooks the now in the name of the future. She is completely right about the corruption of the crest system and the need to reform, as well as the issues with the Church.Ā 
But Iā€™m getting off topic.
I believe, based on both her ruthlessness and her compassion, that she would lock someone up in order to save them from the war.But BBell, you say, locking someone up like that isnā€™t compassionate at all, itā€™s torture.
Yes, person who just said that, I agree with you. By basic human decency standards. But you clearly have no idea how we treat prisoners of war. Even in modern day. And, yes, Byleth is a war prisoner first, as I have tried and failed to remind everyone over the course of this AU.
And, my lovelies, being a POW sucks hard, but I bet it sucked harder in an age before crossbows.
Edelgard, in this AU in particular, thinks she is saving Bylethā€™s life by keeping her a POW. And, on top of that, sheā€™s keeping Byleth fed, in a nice room, with comfortable beds, nice clothes, entertainment. Compared to a wet, cramp, dirty cell with rats that eat you, no toilet, no bed, and no light I bet this prison seems like one of those fancy rich people prisons that are nicer than my apartment. Not only that, Byleth is getting company every day. (I do admit I decided that the room needs a window, just one thatā€™s kinda like a skylight where itā€™s way too high up to reach). In Edelgardā€™s mind, sheā€™s saving Bylethā€™s life and keeping them comfortable until the war is over. Thatā€™s downright compassionate right there. Horrifying to us though.
The thing about this AU that everyone seems to forget is that Byleth loving Edelgard was not the end goal for the woman. Yes, she does want Byleth on her side and thinks she can convince them one day, but actively controlling them and making them love her isnā€™t the point. The point is to keep this person sheā€™s canonically obsessed with from dying in the war.Ā 
I didnā€™t say this clearly the first time around because I wanted people to come up with their own reasons and endings for this AU, but in my head once this war is over and Edelgard rules everything, Byleth is free to go so long as she isnā€™t planning a riot or rebellion or assassination. Granted, I personally wouldnā€™t want someone that could incite a rebellion running around free, so house arrest in a manor or something is more likely, but the tower wonā€™t be necessary after the war.
Thatā€™s how I saw it, anyway.
I donā€™t care if other people want it to be different. I donā€™t care if they make Edelgard a Yandere. I donā€™t care if they make Byleth a twenty foot dragon. I donā€™t care if they donā€™t keep it as canonically aligned as possible like I tried to do at first before more and more ask bombed my doorstep and this whole thing swelled way beyond my original prompt and got lost somewhere. I donā€™t care if this is a good horror story for people, or a story they hate, or a good yandere bait story. I donā€™t care if people have Edelgard obsessed to the point where she never lets Byleth out, because, you know what? Iā€™m sure they have their own logical reasoning for why she would do that. I canā€™t personally see it. I know Anon personally canā€™t see it because thatā€™s where this whole mess of me trying to defend my thoughts on a stupid AU I wrote that got me a lot of grief from much meaner Anons came from.
Itā€™s just a dumb AU, guys, do want you want with it. Block it, hate it, love it, write it. Write a billion spin-offs. Make Rhea the one locking people in towers. Make Claude do it. I donā€™t care if you somehow make Jeralt a zombie and have him capture Edelgard in a tower at this point.You wanna know something? Iā€™d write how I most logically think that very Zombie Jeralt prompt would happen if someone sent it. And I think thatā€™s the problem. Maybe Iā€™m trying to hard to logic out all this stuff I donā€™t think will happen. Because I donā€™t back down from the asks, even when I think thereā€™s no way it could happen I tackle it. Maybe thatā€™s why everything is swelling so much beyond my control, and I got three Anons (not counting you, Anon from this ask) that have harassed me about this.Iā€™m going to turn off Anon Asks if I get one more hate comment btw. Check mate to that particular Anon if theyā€™re reading this. Call me a cunt to my face so I can block you, coward.Ā 
Anyway, I got off point again. You disagree with me, Respectful Anon that disagrees with my AU, and I disagree with you. Iā€™m not mad about the yandere comment, I was just defensive. Hereā€™s my feelings on everything. You probably disagree with them. Thatā€™s great! I donā€™t wanna live in a world where people blindly agree with me! Iā€™m sure you even have a great counter argument that Iā€™ll read, and then canā€™t do anything about because this AU is bigger than me and also I might still disagree.And thatā€™s it, thatā€™s my whole defense of myself in this AU. Have a nice day.Ā 
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