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Love Sea Ep 4 & 5 Thoughts
Okay. As I’m writing this, I know I’ve been gone from tumblr for at least a week (I was back(ish) a day earlier than expected. Weeeeee) Possibly more. So it’s been a minute since at least episode 4 aired. So I’m lumping it in with my episode 5 watch next week. And if y’all think just because I’m not on tumblr, I’m not liveblogging…well of course I am. My wrist does hurt though so I’m not sure how talkative I’ll be. I am also having a bad brain day and I have had a whole weekend full of absolute shit. And my week is going to be…tiring. I’ll be on a plane, a road trip in a car, and then a train. All in the span of like…4-5 days. Don’t ask. Anyway that will be in the past by the time I post this. Time to watch. As always, liveblog under the cut and will likely have criticism. You’ve been warned before you click:
“Every meeting ends with a farewell” please tell me they aren’t going to try to be deep right now. They have not done nearly enough to build up Rak’s side of feelings for me to believe he’s feeling introspective at leaving this place. He pretty much hated it here for the most part. I could maybe understand if it was Mut since he just apparently immediately fell in love because he believes in love. And believing in love means automatically falling in love with the standoffish guest that you’ve been fucking.
Okay the heart of my issue with Rak and Mut can be perfectly encapsulated in this scene where Rak learns that Mut has a pickup truck. “And did I ever tell you I didn’t have a pickup?” Sir, what you feel for Rak is not love. Because if you actually loved him and cared for him, you would have heard his complaints about the motorcycle and the cargo tricycle and used the pickup truck for him instead. He literally told you the motorcycle hurt him to ride and still you did nothing. Because it means more for you to have this weird sense of superiority over Rak than it does to make sure he’s comfortable and not in literal pain. I had a more caring relationship with my former coworker than this. Because I did something where I thought I was in the right but it was a petty argument and honestly, I could see how much she was hurting from it. So I apologized and I let her know that she was more important to me than being right. And that was for a COWORKER (now friend yay). Mut can’t even manage to do that with someone he supposedly likes romantically.
Why does Rak not get to be upset about this? Mut just immediately shuts it down by saying “let’s not end on a bad note.” Sir, you caused the bad note and made no apologies. Instead you laughed at Rak for daring to want some comfort while having no control over his own life while there. Like seriously. If you caused the pain, you don’t get to dictate when the hurt is done.
And the flashbacks again. Will we get some every damn episode? We’re 4 for 4 now.
Rak baby boy this doesn’t make any sense. Does Mut have a magic dick? I do not understand.
What.
Noisy sidewalk people go AWAY
So Mook is paranoid for her valid concerns about STDs? He should get tested. So should Rak. If memory serves, both sleep around. Mut with guests and Rak when he needs to write smut. And Rak has slept with Mut already. I know they used a condom each time, but he should still get tested too. Seriously. Rak’s wealth and fame won’t protect him from STDs.
Noisy neighbor go AWAY
Man I wish this show would just let Rak be aro without making it about trauma and him just being scared to love.
Am I supposed to care about this random woman at the end? Cause I don’t.
And I feel meh about this episode as well. See you in literally the bullet below for episode 5 but it will be a week for me. Time is weird man. Time is weird.
Time IS weird past Rae. And you were right, it was a tiring week. I’m finally caught up on shows though..sort of. I still might start another show tonight. Or maybe listen to an audiobook. I think I’m gonna return my library book and see if they have it on audiobook. If I thought my wrist hurt last week, that’s nothing compared to today. Mistakes were made on my trip. One was unavoidable and the other was…well I did an exercise and that was a mistake.
Anyway now for episode 5.
Rak should wear his glasses all the time. That is all (speaking of glasses…where did I put mine…)
I had issues with that whole scene but honestly I’m too tired to type them all out. Mut is not as smart as he thinks he is and that’s all I have to say.
Rak, sweetie, the waiter just stood there. You know that. You were there.
I’ve had guys say this to me after I told them I don’t like them. You will never guess the outcome of that.
Absolutely the fuck not. There is no way that any person with a uterus wrote this line. Because what the fuck. Why is it that Mook isn’t allowed to be upset with being sent all over yonder on an errand for someone who is NOT her employer and this is the response to her being upset? Believe it or not, people that have periods can be angry because of the actions of other people and not just because of their period. Yes, PMS is a thing, but it is not the only reason for anger. Who wrote this line? I just want to talk.
Save Mook. Save her.
I hate how Vie perpetuates the horrible stereotypes of women in order to manipulate Mook. It’s awful.
So let me get this straight. Mut…forced Rak to go out to eat with him (even though they could have gotten delivery) and then when they’re shopping and Rak has explicitly stated that he wants to leave, it is a “date” because Mut is interested in Rak and he says so. But Rak has stated he does not like Mut. So the whole thing doesn’t work because Rak DOESN’T WANT TO BE THERE. It’s not a date if they both don’t agree it’s a date. And to Mut, you can’t use Rak’s novels against him. Those are characters in fiction. They don’t represent Rak’s real feelings. I hate Mut. Have I mentioned that? I mean I’m not Rak’s biggest fan either but Mut is just…dumb. Rak should be able to argue against this it’s so dumb.
Most novels don’t have sound?? I mean there are audiobooks but the sound in those is typically just words. Unless it’s different in Thailand? I don’t know. Also maybe this is a translation thing? (This is me after the end of the episode and I get it. He was talking about what the author says the sound effect would be. I admit it, I was dumb here. I don't think it came across quite right in the translation but this is fully on me for being dumb. But also the sound mixing at the end? Do NOT get me started. It was bad and I wanted to die.)
If someone put all of my alcohol and snacks back while I was shopping AND paying for it…I would murder them on the spot. I beg your finest pardon Mut, but let Rak have snacks? The alcohol I’m less pressed about because he does have alcohol at home but the snacks? THE SNACKS? I hope Mut rots in hell. This is The Ultimate Sin to me. *guards my snacks with my life*
If Rak’s skin still looks that good on a diet of alcohol and snacks, then I will eat my hat. Also Mut mind yo business. You ain’t his doctor. C’mere Rak. I’ll give you some snacks.
Save Mook. Save her.
This family drama is so poorly written. I feel bad for the actors who are killing it in this scene. They deserve a better script.
I did not hate the end of that episode. Or the scene in the dressing room. Mut's response to the drama was...he still has some work to do on boundaries but it wasn't bad. He did eventually respect the boundaries and they had some good communication in that dressing room. I don’t like that he had to be screamed at before he left Rak alone, but he didn’t walk to Rak which I was so scared he was gonna do and the show was gonna paint it as romantic.
The preview for next week has me concerned though. I probably won’t like episode 6. But that’s all for this week…and last. My wrist hurts and I need a nap.
#love sea#love sea the series#love sea series#i'm going to crawl back into my little hidey hole now i'm still very exhausted from my trip and i need to work tomorrow
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okay my tags were getting too long, so basically
I think Lucifer is definitely going to have a hard time adjusting to being at the hotel. (Granted this is entirely from my introvert-with-depression standpoint and Lucifer may not be an introvert BUT) I'm not even talking about his abysmal social skills that are nerfed further by dissociation. I'm talking about how, he's lived what... at least 7 years now, most likely LONGER in his little hidey duck hole. Doesn't care about anyone that much really except his daughter, who up until now, he didn't know how to interact with, and possibly frederick who we know nothing about. So no real reason to be leaving. So when he does leave, it's infrequent. Sure that's fine. He can handle that, just put on a clown mask and he's good to go. But once the event is done or he's just tired of masking, he can just crawl back to the hidey hole
At the hotel tho... He might get his own private wing and all that but he's going to have a lot more people be around him a lot more often, which means grabbing that mask way more often (this is assuming, he's like me, and feels an intense need to perform around other people and doesn't know how to turn off masking) which quite frankly, is exhausting. If he wants to be present and helpful, he's going to need to pull out that mask way more often.
(Uhhh I feel like I should clarify, when I say mask, I don't mean he's not being genuine, I mean he's hiding that he's feeling miserable by pretending to be [insert positive emotion here] instead. Like his personality is there, but it's that disconnect when someone is being cheery when very clearly they are upset. It's still them. They're not hiding who they are, but they are hiding how they're feeling because of not wanting that to be perceived or not wanting to be a load, or they just don't feel safe sharing that they're in pain/vulnerable)
BUT THAT BEING SAID Lucifer will have one thing going for him that Alastor doesn't.
It doesn't matter how charming, how affable or how wellspoken a person is, if it's not coming from a genuine place then that interaction/trust/relationship isn't going to last. Alastor may be a good showman, charming, fun, mostly pleasant, but he doesn't care.
Sure, Lucifer isn't going to go around showing he has depression but his love and care for his daughter are real. He may have had his hopes shattered and his faith "betrayed" by people in the past but at his core, he always has been and always will be a lover. Case in point, in Dad Beat Dad, he was so damn polite and patient with nearly everyone (except Al). He even let Niffty scale him like a tree. He didn't like it, but he let her
If that's not patience idk what is. His social skills might be total garbage, and he might flub everything he says, especially if he's only getting 50% of conversations, but he's TRYING and he's going to CARE, and that will ultimately shine through
Alastor doesn't care. He's there for reasons none of us actually know, but it's clear it's not for Charlie nor her cause. He's convenient and he's charismatic. But when push came to shove, he showed that he was opportunistic and wrangled a favor out of charlie when she was desperate. In stark contrast, her dad very explicitly told her, "yeah i'm never gonna charge you for needing my help. Just ask." Alastor isn't genuine with the people around him, and eventually that is going to show
Honestly, what i'm most worried about is the figurative arms race this is going to put Alastor, Lucifer and the rest of the cast in.
Lucifer is going to have a rough start with the other hotel residents. He might be the king of hell, they might show respect to his authority, but genuinely connecting with him? Trusting him to be on their side? That's going to be difficult for everyone involved and is going to take a while. Eventually, his wellmeaning nature should eventually come through and they can make good and meaningful bonds but
Alastor already has a solid reputation as someone who is reliable. He's charismatic and fun to talk to, and for the most part, does his job.
The arms race is how many people can Alastor wrangle onto on his side before the jig is up and true colors show? Cuz when true colors show, no one will be siding with him. Alastor only has until the jig is up to get people to not trust or not like Lucifer, cuz after that, he will have no sway over them.
It's a waiting game. Lucifer has to hold out until the true colors show, and Alastor has to keep things going as long as possible
I can only hope that when the jig IS up, that it won't be on Alastor's terms...
Taking this as a sign Lucifer will be living at the hotel from now on (bless)
The problem Alastor had with him in Dad Beat Dad, Lucifer being more powerful and able to provide for the hotel in his place, might come back potentially in even worse condition?
Because what Alastor had over him was actively supporting Charlie's dreams and doing whatever he could for her to achieve them despite his ulterior motives, and being a strange source of emotional comfort for her with mentoring her through her issues at the same time- being the only one who could fill the position as her provider at the very least
But now Lucifer is moving in, AND has finally stepped up as the dad that's going to support her both in the materialistic sense and now as a major source of emotional support she's always wanted from him and only him specifically
One thing I think makes a difference between them is most definitely Alastor's charisma and ability to manipulate people into doing what he wants for the hotel's benefit, and just teaching her more about hell and making connections- is infinitely stronger than Lucifer's, who is usually honest about his feelings and has been socially stunted for awhile, isolating himself since his depression started developing after losing his family for years
Idk if they're going to explore this in the newest season,,,which I am assuming will receive the same short time span of 8 episodes 💀
#hazbin hotel#alastor#lucifer morningstar#charlie morningstar#lucifer#analysis#season 2 speculation#idk lots of thoughts#and like yeah#the amount of sway alastor has is concerning#but lucifer#hold on let me do some quick math here#okay using the only number we have that's vaguely lucifer's age#he's in actuality so much older than 10000 years but that doesn't matter#cuz 10000 years was experience he had living in hell#and Alastor for better or worse has only been in hell#not even a century#so yeah Lucifer might be a little nerfed right now but#he still has literally 100 times the experience of dealing with demons in hell than Alastor has even been IN hell#that being said#I am concerned that Alastor might use charlie's favor to do something that might affect Lucifer#ugh I am so legit scared of Lucifer getting hurt to protect charlie in some way#let the man have good things dammit
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