#i'll tag this as wincest bc of my tags

[sammyofold]

Kinda crazy how people who only know about supernatural through tumblr exposure tend to think it's about Cas and Dean with Sam maybe being there in the background when this whole show is about Dean and Sam being insane and obsessive about each other. and Cas is, like, there sometimes. Literally a total reversal of what the show is perceived as by outsiders

[elliehallers]

Ryland would love S*pernatural, and she'd be a Wincestie! I know that girl was drawing Sam/Dean fanart. 😌

[lilacpaperbird]

Why won't you love me be my mutual :(

aawww !! 😭 anon I can't know who you are !! but I love you I promise. honestly there are some accounts I really like but I don't follow only because in my mind not following many people helps me be less addicted to tumblr because my dash has less activity lmao (also this is a sideblog so if I follow u it won't appear as this account) 😭🫶

[according2thelore]

Omg I'm loving all the ES /LS!Winchester dynamic!!!! Would you guys consider compiling and posting the drabbles on A03?

Also, ES!Dean being so turned on by with LS!Sam is so hot and hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

But it's got me thinking, what if ES!Sam comes to Dean for some tips on Dean's preferences/favourite positions?

ES!Sam would cringe/blush so hard while asking but the poor collage boy couldn't top ES!Dean's years of experience hoeing around all 50 states 🤣🤣😭

Also, how would ES!Sam react to finding out about Benny? (Whether as a "brother" or if there was a romantic past)

hi!

i've made a lil masterlist over here, but i've actually never considered putting them on ao3! i'd feel a lil bad if i clogged up the wincest tag whenever i update it, since i do it weekly/biweekly. would that be something y'all are interested in? i can't tell if i'm overthinking it?

i put a poll underneath the cut--let me know what y'all think!

as for your ideas--AAH!!!!!!! also written below the cut!

ES!Sam is practically vibrating as he stalks over to LS!Dean in the garage, but loses all nerve as soon as dean actually looks up and sees him standing there. he tries to lean against one of the work stations and misses.

"so. uh. sleeping? with you? how does that work?"

and LS!Dean kinda hits him with the

because uh...what are we about to do? and remind me how i'm supposed to answer in the negative again?

and when ES!Sam sputters through an explanation, getting more and more angry as he keeps going because there is little to NOTHING ES!Sam hates more than feeling stupid or being condescended to, finally spits out,

"what do you like?! sexually?"

LS!Dean is now sweating bc "that does not clarify a single thing, actually."

ES!Sam throws a towel at him, which LS!Dean sportingly lets hit him.

"you! 2006 you! if you were to--uh--have sex. with me? what do you like?"

and LS!Dean is still kind of agog because oh my god??? he himself is already pitching the beginnings of a tent over here and ES!Sam is still blushing and keeps looking in dean's eyes in shifts, looking up at his hairline and then back down to his eyes like he has to take eye contact in doses.

"sexually." sam says again, and if he says it one more time, dean's pretty sure he's going to have to suck his dick right here, right now. he's pretty sure. "i think you...ah, have more experience than me at this point. so. who knows what you'd like better than...you?"

LS!Dean moves his roll-cart of tools in front of him, because this is like every dirty fantasy he's had about sam since he was fifteen. shyly coming up, blushing and hiding under bangs and asking big brother how to have sex, asking big brother how to make it good for him.

when LS!Dean's tongue gets unstuck from the roof of his mouth, he has to clear his throat a few times. almost a hilarious number of times, really. his voice still cracks.

"well. um. sammy. sam." he corrects quickly, hedging a look up at him, "i've gotta tell you. you could probably throw up on his dick and he'd probably come like a teenager."

ES!Sam recoils.

"you want me to throw up on your dick??" he says--really fucking loud--and LS!Dean ducks like someone's taking shots.

"NO! what? what the fuck, kid? no!" LS!Dean looks around, but no one sticks their head in. "it's a metaphor!"

"what is metaphorical about me throwing up on your dick?" ES!Sam looks a little green, like he might do it whether dean wants him to or not.

"i'm saying--" LS!Dean says pointedly, "that i've been so gone for you since you were practically born. you could be the categorically worst lay in the entire world and i'll react like i bagged angelina jolie."

ES!Sam's ears flush pink.

"oh." he says, soft. LS!Dean shifts on his feet, awkward, as sam looks up at him from underneath his bangs, even though the damn kid still towers over him a few inches.

dean sighs.

"he's probably gonna want missionary. he's a sap." he grumbles. "moan his name a few times and do that thing the chick from boston taught you with your tongue. ann or something."

ES!Sam jolts, "how do you know about--"

LS!Dean raises an eyebrow, and sam tapers off into an awkward, understanding nod.

"yeah. drives me crazy." dean confirms. "let him take care of you. he'll have a fucking coronary."

the embarrassed avoidance in ES!Sam's gaze disappears, and a determined glint shines in his eye. for a second, dean thinks he might whip out a pen and paper and start taking notes.

"you have my blessing." LS!Dean says with a show of grandiose magnanimity, and ES!Sam snorts. "i'm like sex yoda right now. kinda scary. can you wear me like a backpack real quick?"

ES!Sam turns on his heel so dean can't see his smile, and dean chalks that one up as a victory.

"hyperbole." ES!Sam calls as he walks away.

"gesundheit!" dean calls after him, and sam turns around, cocky little smile and raised eyebrow and dean feels like he's twenty-six again.

"it wasn't a metaphor. 'throwing up on your dick.' it was hyperbole." he says, but his eye roll is undercut by a grin so wide it splits dean right down the middle.

as for ES!Sam finding about benny...oh lord...

this little buddy is not cool about it. considering the fact that he doesn't even know vampires are still around yet, he is GOBSMACKED by the fact dean was fucking friends with one. purgatory is a whole other can of worms.

he's kind of mad at LS!Sam for a second, because what do you mean we didn't look for him? until LS!Sam turns and looks at him with the deadest look in his eyes and says 'i thought dean was dead' and yeah. okay. he wasn't in his right mind. even the thought makes sam a few seconds away from throwing up, so sam is NOT holding his older self accountable for anything that happened during that time.

but the think that gets him right in the fucking panic alarm is "brother." benny has been more like a brother to me than you have ever been would send ES!Sam to a fucking hospital.

at this point, sam has literally never NOT been dean's 100% specialest little guy, and ES!Dean still gives him amazed little looks even a year after they reunited like he still can't believe his luck. considering S8 sam almost killed himself because he was literally trying to purge his own weakness and--significantly--that includes his "betrayal" of dean, to make himself worthy of his brotherhood again, ES!Sam is passed out on the ground.

he's jealous, of course, but mostly he's gutted. he's so incredibly insecure, and this makes him angry and mean, because--remember--LS!Dean doesn't wear the amulet anymore. and he calls other people brother. who is sam if not dean's little brother? that has always been his first identifier, even to himself, even when he's resented it. he stands a little too close to ES!Dean/LS!Dean for a few weeks, seeking praise like a child.

this was really fun to write, anon, thank you so much for sending it in!!!! <3 kissing you on both cheeks mwah mwah!!!! <3

-lizzy

[ES/LS verse masterlist here]

[keidaught]

Hope you don't mind me randomly dropping into your asks but since you asked me in the tags if I've started watching Supernatural I decided to send you an update on my spn (and wincest/destiel) journey.

I've now (re)watched s1 and started s2, and some of the thougs I had when I last watched it have returned to me. I started watching it 9 years ago (quit in the beginning/middle of s8) bc I thought Destiel would be like Johnlock which I loved, but I was disappointed bc I felt that the fandom had hugely overhyped how big Castiel was as a character. I even found an old tweet of mine saying that while I do somewhat ship Destiel it's the most overrated ship I know of. I also remember feeling weirdly like the canon WANTED me to ship wincest which I, still 17 and Pure in my Moral Fandom Opinions did not want to do. I also found a tweet from me saying that Wincest is a ship I'd never ship. Anyway.

My current diagnosis is: yeah the canon does want me to ship it. I don't know what to make of it. I keep comparing it to Defan which is so interesting bc I feel like (headcanonically) Defan wants each other despite being brothers, and the brothers part just adds a level of twistedness. Wincest on the other hand wants each other BECAUSE they're brothers. Their dynamic is like, Incestuous with a capital I. And more emotionally so, like levels and levels of weirdness that is so even without being sexual, but I do think the sexual level is easy to add. But so far I'm very interested in their dynamic but I don't Ship it, more like. Observe whatever is going on. It feels too weird to read fanfics or anything about so far bc as I said, it's so deeply incestuous. Not to say I wont, but for now those are my thoughts on it.

Also I've been an outside observer of the spn fandom for years now, and I don't want to pick sides with Destiel vs Wincest, just observing the fandom is funny enough. But tbh I'm afraid sooner or later I'll get sucked into it bc supernatural fandom seems like. The hellpit of tumblr. Pun intended and all the love to the spn fans who continue keeping me entertained.

omg hi friend! So happy you decided to send me an ask and I'm glad you're enjoying yourself with spn so far!

LOL, the part about spn wanting you to ship wincest is so funny to me. Eric Kripke, the creator of season 1-5 (and cowriter of some episodes after that as far as I'm aware) once said: "Turns out I have a thematic which is tight relationships between friends/brothers with unstated homoerotic subtexts." in reference to spn, so yeah. There's that, haha.

I can definitely see the defan comparison! I think both can be equally fucked up at times but with wincest it's.... definitely more emotional. Also fun that you picked up on the emotional incestous undertones with wincest, haha. We a two whole set of tags for that:

I love this fandom so much, hah. Let yourself be dragged into the pit, ezra, we have so much content!

[ashtraythief]

I love looking at your page and seeing you answer a bunch of asks! Thank you for feeding people’s curiosity. I was the person that asked you about favorite SPN fics. Thank you so much for answering! I love that that post got a bunch of notes, too, haha. You have such good taste! I wanted to follow up and ask about leonidaslion. I adore the terrible day fic, but I was so curious to hear about your thoughts on the rest of their fics? Like the darker ones? I know you said they were too depressing for you, did you finish them?

I read Disturbia and sobbed for days. Her Dean feels way too in-character and my god that author puts him through hell. Suite verse was such an intense read too. I am surprised they’re too dark for you ash because you write dark stuff too, haha. Though I remember reading your fics (Underneath specifically) after Disturbia to feel better about my life lol.

Aww thank you! Tbh I'm just thrilled that people are so interested 😅

I was honestly surprised by the number of notes bc this rarely happens to me, but I'm very happy people are still reading spn fics and those fics deserve all the love.

Hmm, as for leonidaslion's fics, the first thing I have to say that writing certain tropes and themes is different than reading them, at least for me. Usually writing dark stuff is an outlet for me which is not the case when I read dark stuff. Writing darker things and reading them puts me in very different moods and gets different emotional reactions. Like my own dark writing doesn't make me sad or angry or depressed, it's more of a catharsis. And even though I wrote dark stuff, it's generally not between my characters. I'll make the occasional exception for the masquerade prompt fest, but generally I write happy relationships (my serial killers are still very much in love and happy with each other lol).

I never tried the suite verse, the tags told me it was not for me. I very rarely read wincest where one of them is dark. Like I've read some dark fics of course, there are a couple of DemonDean ones I enjoyed and I'm sure I also read some boyking Sam, but in recent years I've definitely been gravitating towards happy things. Life is stressful enough, give me some fluff lol.

I tried Disturbia, but it wasn't for me. While I have written fics, well one fic (and that was many moons ago), with extensive whump, that's a kind of character torture I don't enjoy reading. I know it's one of the all time greats in fandom and it is very well written, but it's just not for me. But I'm happy for everyone who enjoys it or well, gets a catharsis out of it. Fandom truly offers something for everyone and that's amazing.

[zmediaoutlet]

happy wincest wednesday, liz!! how does sam feel about their size difference? how does dean? any headcanons? i think we should talk about size difference this week❤️.

Happy wincest wednesday, Vicki!! <3

Well I Wonder If I Have Any Thoughts About Size Difference.

This is the first post in my 19-page long tag for size differential!kink, lol. Begin as you mean to go on, I guess.

I'll shortly rb a one-two size diff ficlety/hc thing I did in the way back, too, but for now --

So it's so fun to have Dean feel All Kinds of Ways about the size diff, especially since it's fun to take canon as canon and say that he hit his max height of 6' at ~eighteen while Sam was struggling to keep up. But then when Sam finally does hit his real growth spurt(s) and rockets up, Dean's initial betrayal ("I'm older, how the hell are you taller?") turning into lust is of course delish.

BUT

I am sooooooo much more interested in Sam's own size diff kink, in particular if it's not just lust for being bigger (because of course he's bigger, than basically anyone he meets) but in specific a) being bigger than Dean specifically, bc of the hot-gut delight that might be possible re: the size reversal noted above; b) a lust born very precisely of Dean's alarmed kink. Which is a subtle distinction but one that I love -- in which Sam is just chill, like 'yeah, so what, I'm big af', but Dean's complicated tangle of emotions about it sets off a kink fire in Sam as a kind of call-response. (I like that all the time with them, tbh, but size is such a dumb gut-level neanderthal kink that it's particularly fun -- this waking realization of, oh, you like me to be able to overpower you? Oh, well then. I very much like making you come so hard your brain leaks out your ear. :)))

There's also a very delicate little turn to articulate in Sam that I really adore and don't feel like I see enough, which is this emotional/lust snarl around the tangled threads of: enjoying being bigger than Dean; enjoying that Dean likes it; but also feeling somewhat alarmed about his own enjoyment (re: previous fears of monsterhood or violence); but ALSO getting bizarrely off on that exact vague guiltiness or alarm. I have a major thing for sex volcano!Sam, so the moment where he'd be holding back and holding back and then erupting forward and using all that EVERYTHING to its fullest advantage is just. Lovely. And so I have written many words on the subject.

Hey -- friends, romans, wincestuous countrymen: what sort of size diff thoughts do you have?

[demons-i-get]

Hello, hello, my darlings!

You can call me Spencer or Dean! Pronouns are They/He please!

I am a writer and would LOVE to take requests!

First things first tho, some Dos and Don'ts:

Look, I'm not gonna bite your head off if you're into wincest bc let's be real there's just no escaping it in this fandom and I actually don't care bc they're fictional characters. However, I personally prefer to avoid it so please don't send any requests for it pls and thx ❤️

Anything else I think should be okay, and I will amend this post if I find anything else that's a hard no <3

Gore and violence and blood are perfectly fine <3 however Dean is my blorbo and specialist little guy and comfort character and I tend to prefer to whump on him so while other characters are of course welcome and I will gladly whump or h/c or fluff or whatever them for you, I can't promise that I'll get them in character or that I won't accidentally end up making it all about Dean 😅

PLEASE DO NOT request anything ✨️spicey ✨️ I am sex-repulsed asexual and would really rather not read or write anything explicit. Occasionally, I might imply/reference off-screen sex but mostly I avoid it.

I am not a big fan of reading or writing x reader or 2nd person narration, so please don't request that because I will not do it and I will feel very bad about telling you no even though my boundaries are listed here 😅

Be as specific or as vague as you like! Ramble and rant and word vomit at me or just send in a short prompt and a character, I don't care! I just want us all to have fun here ❤️

If you're ever not sure about something you want to request, you can always send in an ask (on or off anon) or message me and I'll be happy to let you know further details/specifics of about what I'd be willing to write for you! ❤️

Other Things to Know!

I'm a Dean simp first and a human being second 😘

I have seen every episode of Supernatural 💪

Destiel shipper!!!

I am not afraid of the block button and I will not answer hate, it will be deleted. If I can't tell if you're being rude or mean, I will answer merely expressing my confusion (privately if you're off anon for asks) and I will do my best not to jump to conclusions!

I like to think I'm a pretty chill person, so please don't be afraid to talk to me! I would love to interact with y'all ^-^

I do have a nasty potty mouth, but I'm pretty sure most of us in this fandom are the same way lmao

THIS IS A SIDE BLOG!!!!! My main is @invalid-author and you can check that out for non-spn related stuff! I also have Percy Jackson (@water-you-doing-bro) and Criminal Minds (@pretty-boy-baby-girl) specific side-blogs as well so feel free to check them out!

All my writing (including hcs) can be found under the tag #dean writes

All asks with be tagged #dean answers

Any requests made off anon with be @ -ed in the post once I've written it up and requests made on anon will include a link back to the ask once posted!

Any writing done for a request will be tagged #fulfilling a request alongside #dean writes

Can't think of anything else at the moment, but if I do I'll update this post!

All the tags mentioned above will be added in the tags of this post so you can find them easily!

[meowmeowmessi]

You know in season one ep 19 (I’ll paste the trascript)

[DEAN: (Softly) And... I don't mean any disrespect but I'm sure this is about Jessica, right? Now I don't know what it's like to lose somebody like that.... but... I would think that she would want you to be happy.

SAM is quiet and listening now, tears in his eyes.

DEAN: God forbid have fun once in a while. Wouldn't she?

SAM: (softly) Yeah I know she would.

SAM gives a half smile, then sighs heavily.

SAM: Yeah you're right. Part of this is about Jessica. But not the main part.

DEAN: What's it about?

SAM refuses to answer. ]

Like whats the main part Sam? Is it wincest? Is it pining!Sam how am i suppose to interpret this??? And what was the secret he was keeping in at the end of the bloody mary episode?

I was sooo confused when i first watched it (before being a wincest shipper) but now allll im seeing is pining!wincest in season one. Like???

I'm glad wincest made you see the light, nonnie!!! Welcome to the family! We have cookies :DDD

It's 100% pining!Sam on the first one for me. After all, the night Dean whisked him away from Stanford was the happiest night of his life, we all know this now. But I don't think he realizes his own feelings yet. But he knows guilt, because his girlfriend burned to death on a ceiling, yet his heart soars at Dean's off-key singing, at the way he drums his fingers on Baby's wheel in tune with the music (even though he complains about it, like any little brother worth his salt should). Even something as inane as Dean scuffling with him over his laptop sends warmth shooting through his chest, and that has him frowning, because as much as he loves his annoying big brother, his girlfriend just died, dammit. So maybe there's hurt in there, too, because here's Sam, trying to sort through his jumbled up emotions, and then there's Dean, adamant on pushing him into the arms of yet another woman.

But little does he know, Dean's pining, too. And worse still, he knows he's pining. Been pining for years. What made Sam's eyes bleed is the secret of his psychic powers, but Dean's not sure what made his eyes bleed: he's got too many damn secrets, too many to choose from, some darker than others. The trucker in Tennessee who'd looked at Sammy in his sweet sixteen for a minute too long, who'd been swiftly sent to the hospital with a wrung jaw; his selfish happiness at Sam's life burning away to ash because that means he can keep him; the ache he felt at every smile little Sammy threw at him finally clicking into place when his little brother wrapped his arms around him under the 4th of July fireworks.

The ache he feels even now as he watches Sam kiss Sarah.

"That's my boy," he says to himself, smiling, but his voice sounds thick to his own ears, too far away, mind screaming this is it this is it you idiot you pushed too hard and now he's falling into someone else's arms and, this is where you lose him this is where you finally lose him-

But then Sam's walking toward him, giving him a questioning look, and Dean moves away from the passenger side door -the one he'd been leaning against- on autopilot, mind in a haze. Sam's already folded himself into the passenger seat that still knows every groove of his body so well, and he's looking up at Dean with wide eyes.

"Dean? Aren't we leaving?"

And Dean's fingers unclench from around the impala keys at that, chest feeling light. Like a hand that had his heart in a fist had finally let go.

You get to keep him, the same heart sings.

This time, at least. Just for a little longer.

[first-only]

I've always been curious - what are your favorite ships?

under the cut bc its rambly and No One Cares about my old ass fandoms that were seasonal for most people but stuck with me for some reason and also to maybe avoid showing up in searches/tags for the rare person looking for Content

i guess the most Hardcore ive ever shipped is mcreyes (yes, overwatch i know), they consumed me with a rage that pretty much burned me out of fandom (tho i still ship it, i just literally never found anyone that sees them the same way i do - non-fanon compliant it is for me). along with them i also have somva and widowana and of course shimadacest, its just the Polycule living in my head [i guess i should point out i broke up w canon after the like first year of development ie after the great retconning so i neither know nor care whats happening there, these characters are basically (schrodinger's) ocs at this point]

the other fandom i am Too invested in is, tragically, dragon age, which i still sorta indulge in some Canon for (i apologize for whats likely going to happen to this blog once the next game comes out lmao). My ships there are mostly OC/canon, as the games sorta lead into. Anora/Zevran/Cousland (and cousland/loghain, and cousland/fergus...); Carver/Hawke/Isabela (/qp!Anders) [well and just some good old hawke/anders really], and Dorian/Trevelyan/Blackwall (/qp!Vivienne) are my mains.

dragon age leads to mass effect, where i fell head over for shakarian which i will fight for to my last breath i do not give a fuck. and also ashlaw wich i literally had to invent a shipname for cuz nobody else cares about it lmao (ashley and miranda if anyone even knows the franchise here lol)

i think more obvious is my love for star wars, i ship just the entire pentacule in the prequels/clone wars - obi/ani/padme/ahsoka/sabine. han/leia/luke(/lando?) for the og trilogy and reylo and finn/rose/poe in the new one (tho thanks to fandom im much less invested in finnpoe)

ive been in like a few fandoms that were wild and strong but didnt last - red dead where i shipped john/arthur/abigail; detroit become human where hannor ate my brains. pathfinder and divinity original sin which literally did not have a fandom, but i will tell you i very much ship my mains with amiri/octavia/regongar (in kingmaker) and camellia/daeran (in wotr);. in divinity Lohse/Sebille and Fane/Ifan are the other polycule plaguing me. oh and pillars of eternity with devil of caroc/maneha/PC tho i eventually ended up pairing up aloth w my pc in deadfire

real talk tho, the most recent thing close to an Obsession is fucking league of legends (yes i know) where its swain/darius/draven; yasuo/yone/taliyah; kayn/zed; and some good old lucian/senna. i mean you've seen the TF/Graves art this shouldnt be a surprise lol

and yeah in Arcane its silco/jinx/vi/vander

But mostly lately ive been merrily making DnD OCs and playing Rimworld which allows for amazing characters so it's kinda OC season i guess

oh and as an end to this rant which everyone gave up on reading im sure - i'll leave you with the fact that what got me into real fandom communities was itasasu (/saku and/or karin sometimes) and wincest (/jack) has been a latent interest even tho spn has never been high on my interests list so do with that what you will lol

[tiktaalic]

Hi, I know you've mentioned a few times about running prompt weeks and have been involved in setting some up yourself and I was just kinda curious about what the 'stages' of this would be? Or whether you could direct me to anywhere that has an overview of how to set up any kind of prompt or gift exchange without it instantly crashing and burning? Thank you!

I don't know anything about exchanges, sorry! I assume the timeline would be similar but there's more communication involved (with participants/discord/etc). I've set up 3 different prompt weeks and I like to get things outlined about two months out. By outlined I mean

-mod recruiting

-barebones planning discord

-picking a week

-setting up a blog with graphics and a faq page

-setting up prompts

-setting up ao3 collection

-setting up pinned post links (usually i put the ao3 collection, faq, prompts, and intro post)

usually what I'll do is snag a url, leave the placeholder stuff in there, then write out the faq. Once the faq is done i set up the ao3 collection. In the mod discord, I have a channel open for dropping prompt suggestions and I'll kinda prod it a few times for a few days as well as looking up different writing challenges/other event weeks i've seen. before i was into supernatural i was into bnha so i did a lot of scrolling thru bnhafandomevents on their week tag . i personally lean towards 2 prompts a day bc when i did interest surveys someone raised concerns about how when there's one prompt it can be pretty hard for them as a writer, so when making a prompts list i actively try to have a more visual prompt and a more abstract prompt. once we're all solid on them, i go ahead and start fiddling with the blog making pages for the prompts and faq and typing things in. after that is spiffying the place up (making header / icon / intro post graphics).

re: prompts, i try to go the extra mile and include suggestions on how broadly they can be interpreted either in the prompts page on the blog or in some of the promo posts made pre event. when i did feedback a non negligible amount of people said they just didn't know what to do with prompts that i felt were really broad, so i just make sure to somewhere have stuff thats like. its ok to get wild with it. with hypothetical examples.

once everything's set up, ideally me + other mods will type up and queue 3 posts a week for #promo (i usually tried to space them m/w/then a weekend day, and to vary the time they posted as well for timezone reasons), but usually this ended up being more like one a week because i really hated typing them up ansdfjdjfsdf. i was very very grateful for jo (unsure what their new url is, previously casjpg) when womenweek rolled around bc they went above and beyond by creating gifs once a week for our promo posts!

at that point its just like. rolling the dice and hoping someone picks up one of the promo posts and gets it rolling. i've seen other events do taglists in the post to #boost it but i never did that bc. idk. i just didn't.

when questions about the event came in, i was comfortable answering technical aspects off the top of my head (do we have to participate every day? do we have to use both prompts in our work? is there a minimum wc? etc etc) but thornier stuff i would drop in the mod server and ask what our take on it was. like for womenweek someone asked if trans woman sam was fair game and we talked about it and decided since the point of the event was to kind of get the content mill grinding for characters who usually fall by the wayside, transfem headcanons for men on the show weren't what we were going for, but of course transfem claire / jody / eileen / rowena / billie / etc was more than fair game. if you're doing an event for a known freak zone you HAVE to get very explicit about this not being an event for freaks. i felt like the faqs for pocweek and womenweek were very clear about no incest but still got... 4? 5? asks doing whataboutism for how wincest should be allowed. so.

about 2 days before the event itself i made a google excel sheet and made it editable for mods with asheet for every day of the event.this is how we kept track of submissions and what had already been reblogged.

this was also our tagging system. im not going to do it now but if i was to redo an event i would change how i entered urls on the spreadsheet and pop in the url for the post that the event reblogged (spnwomenweek/whateverpost) instead of from op because so many people deactivate or url hop.

if you have any specific questions feel free to message me!

[typinggently]

No like, protect yourself/your main blog for real, these people are crazy... lie to them or even just ignore the anon asks, you don't owe them the truth or even a response... Your tags are fascinating to me though 🔍👀 bc it really shows how much the meaning of the word "shipping" has changed... It really has come to be used as something tied to one's identity/media expectations? I feel old reading this tbh hahshshjd

@elwing - I'll be real, I have NO idea what shipping means these days, this is mostly my own interpretation. Because, really, to me, it would explain why people ae so nasty about it. I guess they just assume that 'I like to think about these characters in a relationship of some kind' = 'I want them to be in a relationship, I want them to represent my sexual identity, I view their relationship as a blueprint for my own relationship and relationships in general'

Which is so one-dimensional and so boring, I can hardly stand it. But it explains why people roar and spit when it comes to stuff like wincest. "Man learns to love himself through the love A Literal Angel has for him, which heals and comforts him" might be great in any of those three roles, and "Brothers depend on each other to the point of being in a sexual relationship" is shockingly horrid when forced in these categories. But I highly doubt we are saying that? The uses of those two ships are just completely different.

I've been thinking about this a lot when I tried to answer that ask. Like, yes, I enjoy wincest, but there are multiple ways to enjoy a fictional relationship. And I think that's the issue - the roarers and spitters don't understand that their way of interacting with a certain fictional relationship might not be the only way people interact with fictional relationships. Maybe I don't think a relationship has to be pride flag parade healing self insert comfort character elements to be enjoyable. Maybe I want to see something fucked up. Maybe I just think it looks hot.

........i still think about this ask i got on main on the daily.....

[nancylou444]

First the tags:

#asks#anti castiel#and then he said yes to lucifer in s11 and that's when cass got on my shitlist for the second time#third actually#him stealing the angel tablet and beating up dean in s8 made me wanna reach into the screen and strangle him#cass became like wallpaper to me in the later seasons bc he didn't have that much screen time#and he was literally just a plot device#but then I'll randomly remember some of the shit he pulled on sam and dean and it makes my brain boil#honestly this is why I no longer ship sastiel#I used to ship it a little back in the day (wincest still being my otp that is)#but cass hurt sam WAY too many times#I feel like it gets called a soft ship simply bc SAM is the other half of the ship#like.....#sam is always forgiving him and cass comes crawling back bc he has no backbone so to speak#bitch went all god mode but couldn't keep it up bc he's a pussy (excuse my french)#and sam the ever sweet ever forgiving bean forgives him AFTER HE BROKE HIS DAMN WALL WITHOUT EVEN APOLOGIZING TO *HIM*#AND THIS HOE COMES BACK RUNNING#I hate it so much ugh#even in s8 when dean was pissed at cass for the angel tablet fiasco (as he should be!)#SAM is the one who told dean to go easy on him bc 'it's CASS'#YOU KNOW WHAT NO FUCK THAT#LET DEAN BEAT HIM UP SAMMY#YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SO SWEET TO HIM ALL THE TIME#ok I'm done now#idk why but I'm just feeling vv pissed at cass tonight for some reason#ignore me lol

Now my two cents:

Then THEY are “oh look Cass helped Sam isn’t he WONDERFUL!!!!”

No you sad bunch of bitches. Cass hurt Sam in the first fucking place, so it’s only RIGHT for him to fix Sam. He should have stayed DEAD and Singer should have told mishmash to get fucked. Sera would have figured out another way of curing Sam and the fandom would have been better for it. 

Not sure if someone’s mentioned this before, but what really irks me is when Cas breaks Sam’s wall... and promises DEAN that he’ll “save Sam”. Doesn’t even tell Sam “hey, sorry for what I’m about to do”, even though they were supposedly friends. And he was *this close* to not saving Sam after all, Dean had to literally drag him (or “Emanuel”) to do it.

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM FOR BREAKING SAM'S WALL THAT CHICKEN ASS FEATHERY PIECE OF SHITAFJKLSJDHSKDHDH 

*cough*

Ahem.

Cass breaking Sam's wall was SUCH a cruelly calculated move... Sure, he wanted to stop Sam and Dean (and Bobby) from getting in the way of his plans, but he could've done ANY number of things to accomplish that. He could've poofed them to the Antarctica or the Sahara desert or done just about anYTHING THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE SAM BEING PLAGUED BY LUCIFER VISION 24/7. What a dick fucking move. "Winchesters' guardian angel"??? "Sam and Dean's FRIEND"??? Don't make me laugh you piece of afjklajskskdksk. He KNEW hurting Sam would throw Dean off his game, and he did just that. I bet he did it as payback for Dean telling Death to kill him. And what's even worse is that Dean had to DRAG his pathetic ass back to the hospital where Sam was so that he could be saved (as you've mentioned yourself nonnie) bc the little shit was going all "I'm scared of the bad things I did :(((" and being a fucking COWARD and not willing to take responsibility for scrambling Sam's brain. Maybe it sounds cruel, but idgaf that he went into a coma or whatever after taking Sam's hell memories, bc he broke Sam's brain in the first place. You're a billion year old angel of the freakin' Lord and all it takes is less than 30 seconds of seeing hallucifer for you to lose your mind? My boy Sam Winchester spent MONTHS with Lucifer rattling around in his noggin, and he spent those months being UPRIGHT AND HUNTING AND SAVING PEOPLE. Angel of the Lord my ASS. 

This is why Cass was better as a villain like he was in s6. His death in s7 should've been the last we saw of him. Too bad we can't always get what we want.