#i'll probably think of more stuff to add to this but uhhhhhh yeah these are my initial thoughts

[askfallenroyalty]

put under a read more cause lordy this is long. tldr; bugs should be fine, garden can be done, i just need to be creative.

dirt/tools:

so i've had a couple people point out now that i could use bugs -and yeah, thinking on it i could do this:

Susie is like, hey you coward wanna go thru this haunted house (skeleton brother's abandoned house)

(messes with machine, it sets off, causes a chain reaction with the core, now the universe is unstable) Oops

But hey we don't realize that right off the bat so everyone leaves, shaken up but unaware of what they've done

Chara goes to garden with asgore, is frustrated and uses a gardening Trowel, which hey, that's Kinda A Knife Right? creates a garden themed darkworld.

kids regroup, Chara is stuck as a ghostly narrator.

Feylow is this universe's Ralsei equivalent. Helps guide them and explains things.

Because this happens at Asgore's shop, "Flower King," Royal (King?) is the big bad and wants to stop the Lightners from closing the dark fountain.

Flower, bug enemies*, garden gnomes, lots of fun stuff can be used, idk. i'll think hard about what can be done. I'm thinking this fangame chapter won't be as long as DR chapter 1, doesn't need to be SUPER big or complex

Chara confronts Ruler/King/Idk their name yet, gets the "I need to leave Asriel" message for self-growth

uhhhhhh the fact that the world is crumbling and getting influenced by deltarune, could be a mid-game twist that they're connecting. Ralsei can step in and be like "hey. you guys ): are screwing things up ))): " and will eventually adopt this darkworld's inhabitants.

* bugs probably shouldn't count BUT I AM counting it because flowers count as Feylow is a daffodil. this is my executive decision for the betterment of the story

as for spamton, i don't really see the spamton sweepstakes itself as canon but it kinda works as Spamton exists as a spam email. he's an email, he can be online.

and yea fruit would count, Pumpkin can exist as a sentient pumpkin.

though idk, she doesn't really fit the theme of this area (cowgirl doesn't really fit gardens, unless its like, a cactus area) nor the story really? (not that anyone would know this) but she works as a good foil to someone who's very bitter to the world. Feylow already fits that role.

Sadly Pumpkin won't be in AFR 😭😭😭 i WILL find a way to add her into something SOMEDAY. i am forever sad until then.

anyway i'm not... the happiest with connecting this to DR, but if I'm having the garden BE Asgore's shop again, then it has to be a Chara-Made-Actual Darkworld and not an artificial one that Gaster made in the past.

Gaster is the root cause of this but it's all done post-humorously and never directly. We get implications that he messed with darkworlds and time/space but it's never "hoho i'm the man who speaks with hands i'm scary goop guy!!!!!!" like the man is Nonexistent. He GONE. i guess I COULD have him appear but i literally already tried that last time and it sucked ass tbh.

Still feeling 😑over ralsei popping up but like, the alternative is that the fountain is closed and the garden's life becomes non-sentient again. like imagine being a worm, becoming a person with a lived history, then becoming a worm again. it'd be so fucked up.

tho i gotta wonder how tf is this going to impact the lightworld. How much do they know of this multi-verse shenanigans? cause the tumblr!AFR has them being missing. But if there's giant smoke clouds over Monsterland I'd imagine Chara + friends being missing would be contributed to them investigating rather than dipping out

😵 I'll figure it ouuuuut i just gotta think what's best for the story i'm trying to tell, i'll make it work somehow

[caatws]

ok after a tumultuously emotional night i’m just gonna. talk abt my endgame thoughts for a sec

overall......i’m not a fan. i’ll admit to being biased - the characters i believed deserved proper closure/happy endings/not dying pretty much didn’t get that so i’m just like uhhhh what. like, there were a lot of specific moments in the movie i REALLY LIKED but then the rest of the movie was either unpleasant, dragged on too long (i knew going 3 hours would be shit), or i was just rly overwhelmed and confused as to what was happening.

things that i liked:

PEPPER POTTS FINALLY BECAME RESCUE HOLY SHITTTTTT

STEVE AND MJOLNIR YES FINALLY

the time travel sequences in the 2nd act were kind of all over the place, but i did like the concept of revisiting past mcu films now that it’s been so long for a fun nostalgia trip. my fav of the time travel trips was going back to the battle of new york in 2012

nebula had a prominent role in the movie!!!! yeehaw!!!

tony and pepper got married and had a kid and my 2014 pepperony heart rly did explode!!!!!!!! wow!!!!

JARVIS!!! WAS THERE!!!!!!!! my agent carter heart exploded!!!!!! bring that show back pls

things that i disliked:

the dialogue was weird and cringey but i guess that’s what makes a true avengers movie huh (started from the bottom - “i have a plan: attack” - now we here - “i am inevitable”) lmfao

so many scenes dragged on soooo longgggg i knew being 3 hours long would be a bad idea

does anyone know how time travel works

how did past nebula bring 2014 thanos & co. to the future without pym particles

how did present nebula kill past nebula without undoing her own existence in the present

how did steve travel back in time to be with peggy then still existed in the same present day timeline for sam and bucky to encounter him as an old man

like what peggy carter did we meet in this timeline in catws if steve went back in time and got with her

wait does that mean there are super soldier serum babies running around in the present day since steve implied he had a family

what happened to 2014 gamora did she just fuck off to somewhere else at after the battle....she rly should’ve been in the epic tracking shot at tony’s funeral

UM HEY THE FACT THAT!!!! TONY DIED!!!!!! EXCUSE ME? like why did they give him a family and all that for him to just fucking. die

tbh i don’t think anyone had to die bc i think steve could’ve just chilled out and retired somewhere and then tony could’ve retreated to his cabin and then...natasha

NATASHA!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK

lol i truly am a clown bc natasha was my #1 reason for getting into the mcu at all in the first place and eventually my priorities and interests shifted toward gamora & the gotg......so basically the 2 fem characters i LOVED to death for years died in the same exact bullshit way

ALSO.....the soul stone rules do not make sense to me like....i thought you have to sacrifice what you love most....and you’re telling me that clint loves natasha more than anything else like idk his wife or children.....

look y’all i LOVE cl*ntasha but this was bullshit in the canon that we were presented with and you know it

also just. what was up with emo clint y’all that was kinda extra

ok wait i’m sorry but can we go back to steve/peggy bc wtf peggy has been shown and stated MULTIPLE TIMES to have moved on with her life after grieving steve and eventually married a dude and had kids and HAD A WHOLE LIFE!!!! without steve and steve literally went back in time and UNDID ALL THAT to get some?!?!

also why would steve, after turning the world upside down searching for bucky, abandon bucky to having to suffer THE SAME EMO SHIT STEVE DID living in the present as his ‘40s self.......y’all

what was the point of the bruce/hulk hybrid thing i’m CONFUSED

why didn’t they explain why hulk didn’t come out in iw i’m sdlkfbnklsdfb

why is thor always treated as a joke in pretty much every avengers movie....he has suffered so much he deserves better

it’s clear to me that the russos did not know how to use carol so they totally wasted her potential in this movie by barely using her

have i talked abt the gotg yet? let me talk abt the gotg REAL FUCKIN QUICK

where the fuck is our gamora did they rly just undo YEARS of character and relationship development in their arguably best developed character by not bringing her back.....bro

peter quill’s pain and trauma is once again played off for laughs

like honestly HELLO he is probably kind of upset that the gamora he knew and loved is fucking DEAD still!!!!!!!!!! fuck the balls kicking scene i don’t like it

also wtf was up with some of nebula’s writing like somehow she went from being “fuck thanos rights he’s not my father” in the gotg films to “my father”-this, “my father-”-that like every 2 seconds in endgame

how did j*mes g*nn sign off on ANY of this when he was consulting

oh and the cherry on top of it all.....the “gay character” honestly fuck russo bros rights i’m done